Level 42 Digest for Wednesday, February 28, 2007

Wednesday, February 28, 2007

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Topics for Wednesday, February 28, 2007

    1.  Judge Dredd - Andrew Goodwin
    2.  more on Gary and Phil - Eric J. Hansen
    3.  Hmmm - Winston Walker
    4.  Idiot is back - Pete
    5.  Billy Thorpe - Jeff Mahoney

1. Judge Dredd
From:	Andrew Goodwin <thenightfly83 @ yahoo.co.uk>
Date:	Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:30:23 +0000 (GMT)	[top]
> 5. Re: ....couldn't put Humpty together again ! > From: Chris Lawless > > I think that as long as Mark, Mike, and Wally are > involved, we'll get good music. Honestly, the last > three studio albums before the breakup in 1994 get > unfairly slagged off Guaranteed doesn't. Get slagged off unfairly, I mean. No amount of slagging could be unfair to Guaranteed. > Truth be told, those > three albums were exceptionally strong in terms of > both musicianship and composition. Guaranteed wasn't. > That's not meant as an insult toward Phil- > far from it in fact. But wasn't his primary > contribution to the band more in the form of his > lyrics than his drumming? Noo. > Ditto for Boon- more for lyrics that guitar playing? Noooo. > And honestly, if I didn't know any better I would never have guessed that Phil was involved with FOREVER NOW because his presence really wasn't felt. And we have a new contender for The Most Bizarre Statement Ever Made On The Digest! For me, Forever Now is SWAMPED with Phil Gould, and in fact it was the album that made me realise how much his contribution to the band was intrinsic to my enjoyment of Level 42. Furthermore it made me aware of how much I had been guilty of denigrating the significance of the drummer to the overall sound of a recording. Although then I encountered Friesen and the guilt magically evaporated. AG ___________________________________________________________ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk

2. more on Gary and Phil
From:	Eric J. Hansen <ehansen @ worldmachine.com>
Date:	Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:12:56 -0500	[top]
Interesting comments about "Gary vs. Phil", etc. Personally I always thought it was more of how the song was written and intended to be played (perhaps Mark's preferences?) than purely the drummer's interpretation. That isn't to say that Gary and Phil are interchangeable -- can you imagine Phil playing some of the tracks on Guaranteed, e.g. Heaven In My Hands? So, is the drummer staying true to the song, or is the song being played in the drummer's preferred style? A little of each? And either way, don't you think Mark's direction would have been very influential? Answers on a postcard, please... Eric

3. Hmmm
From:	Winston Walker <winman42 @ gmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:38:29 -0800	[top]
Interesting discusssion in regards to the current album, and the mike and phil stuff. I guess the combo of Mike and Phil might sound more like the orig l42 sound, but in all honesty i reallyy dont think MK was trying to make this new album sound like the original band. While i like some of the Lindup tracks, they sound more like the Lindup composed tracks from a L42 album, instead of the tracks credited to the band. While i will support anything these guys do, i'm would personally be more excited if Gary and Mark go some jazzier project off the ground. I guess it would also have something to with what we are looking for out of an album from any of these guy. I honestly didnt listen for it to be 'classic' level 42 or anything. But i was suprised that a few of the songs sounded like 80's 42 to me.(dive into the sun, rooted) And 'Rooted' sounds like it came from 'One Man' Now, the Forever Now album...said it before, i'll say it again...i must be the only person on this digest who didnt think this album was a return to form. Some good songs, but as far as Phil's 'drumming' goes..it has nice grooves at maybe 8 bars at a time, as the whole thing sounds like drum loops to me, which we what it is. I found it a waste of great player. Still lyrically at the top of his game, but i was really disapointed with the drums personally. Win

4. Idiot is back
From:	Pete <pd018w9422 @ blueyonder.co.uk>
Date:	Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:47:56 -0000	[top]
Blimey it's like I've never been away. Were there any 'See You In The Bar' incidents at the last 2 tours that I've not been too. Now if I was a REAL fan.................. Excuse both times were cashflow due to impending house move and then lower income post move (which was a known side effect of moving to S.W England and refusing to go back into I.T.) Oh poor me, bigger house, less stress, lower mortgage, near the sea, Dartmoor etc. Left Reading Feb 2006. Don't know when I last subscribed but it's been a quite a while, doesn't feel like it looking at the posts though :-). Hello all. Cheers, Pete D. (Tazbad)

5. Billy Thorpe
From:	Jeff Mahoney <digadogg @ bigpond.net.au>
Date:	Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:51:30 +1100	[top]
Hi All Just thought I would mention to you all that Australian Rock Legend Billy Thorpe died today In Sydney aged 60. I cannot believe I will not see this great aussie with his powerful voice and brilliant guitar playing ever again. A sad day for Australian Music. Jeff Mahoney

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