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Thursday, September 27, 2007 |
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| Topics for Thursday, September 27, 2007 1. Rare Silk! - Angel Rogero 2. Righteous is as Righteous does.... - Doug White 3. Righteous is as Righteous does....Try # 2 - Doug White |
| 1. Rare Silk! |
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| From: | Angel Rogero <girlin204 @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:28:22 -0700 |
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Lolita.. Rare Silk! How do you know about this group? I thought I was the only one who still had that album in a pink sleeve. So 80s looking. My mom bought the album back in the day but it was part of my youth and now I'm the one with the record player! I also would love to know about how you sang with Manhattan Transfer. That would be one of my dreams too but I know I would get too nervous and the voice would quiver too much to make it worth it if I ever got the chance. Angel Can you find the hidden words? Take a break and play Seekadoo! Play now! | ||
| 2. Righteous is as Righteous does.... |
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| From: | Doug White <bigdp @ stanford.edu> |
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| Date: | Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:09:46 -0700 |
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| I don't know where to start! Oddly this latest clashing of the minds seems to have begun through a post that I made stating how much I enjoyed both Take 6 and Manhattan Transfer. In a sense two people on the digest are fighting over me (I feel giddy and all light headed) which I find kind of unusual to say the least. In another sense we have a clash of cultures going on here, I think. I think that sometimes some of us, including myself, are guilty of using humor to mask sarcasm or to make fun of other people's posts. Some people have ongoing humor with each other that while it is front of an audience of hundreds is really just something that includes themselves. Sometimes others may feel bold enough to join in the fun, but are met be the proverbial blank stare. As I said yesterday and as Alex himself mentioned again yesterday he has been a member of the mailing list at least as long as Lolita and that try as he might she never seemed to take notice of his posts. Of course she did, I imagine, but until recently for whatever reason she didn't respond to him, at least not in this forum in front of the rest of us. Now it seems they've both gotten into an uproar over themselves (frankly) and taken stances that are diametrically opposed to each other. On the one hand Lolita feels like she, and by extension anyone else, ought to be able to post messages on the mailing list directed at a person or people in particular without others on the mailing list responding to the contents or making comments about the post itself. While I can see Lolita's point, and would even agree with her in a perfect world, I would say that while it might be nice to respond to someone privately in a public forum and it seems people do it all the time here it is STILL a public forum and you can't pretend that it isn't. Meanwhile we have Alex's last post and frankly I think he has gone WAYYYY over the top in his comments. I can see his point and even agree with his sentiment about how words can demean others through common usage and then after they become common terms people who would never knowingly use those words if they knew their derivation or the original meaning. BUT, WTF? Alex, if we were 'speaking' to each other or to a group of others and we didn't 'know' each other as well as we seem to 'know' each other then I would defend you to the utmost in your outrage over the usage of demeaning word and terms. It seems WAY over the top, to me, to get on your high horse all these years later and bitch about Lolita's (or anyone else's) slang or common speech. I don't mean to denigrate Alex regarding his post because, unless he's covering his tracks to make a point and save face, I really believe what he has to say. Normally, as I stated above, I would agree with him. In a public forum people have to be careful of what they say in this day and age of sensitive natured people, but in a forum where we're all familiar with each other it seems to me that at this point Alex is covering his tracks in his supposed outrage. So, good points on both sides of the argument, but at the same time I feel like they're both jousting with windmills. Again, I would ask Alex, as I did yesterday, Lolita finally responded to one of your posts after all these years. Is this REALLY the kind of discourse you were envisioning? Do you even care what the discourse was going to be? Does it matter? So, boys and girls, I would urge you to all play nice or go stand in the corner over there for awhile until you can. Hmmm....I wonder what kind of reaction this will get from people. *KABOOOOOM* | ||
| 3. Righteous is as Righteous does....Try # 2 |
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| From: | Doug White <bigdp @ stanford.edu> |
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| Date: | Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:12:16 -0700 |
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| I sent yesterday, but somehow it didn't make it to the digest....so I am trying again. =========================== I don't know where to start! Oddly this latest clashing of the minds seems to have begun through a post that I made stating how much I enjoyed both Take 6 and Manhattan Transfer. In a sense two people on the digest are fighting over me (I feel giddy and all light headed) which I find kind of unusual to say the least. In another sense we have a clash of cultures going on here, I think. I think that sometimes some of us, including myself, are guilty of using humor to mask sarcasm or to make fun of other people's posts. Some people have ongoing humor with each other that while it is front of an audience of hundreds is really just something that includes themselves. Sometimes others may feel bold enough to join in the fun, but are met be the proverbial blank stare. As I said yesterday and as Alex himself mentioned again yesterday he has been a member of the mailing list at least as long as Lolita and that try as he might she never seemed to take notice of his posts. Of course she did, I imagine, but until recently for whatever reason she didn't respond to him, at least not in this forum in front of the rest of us. Now it seems they've both gotten into an uproar over themselves (frankly) and taken stances that are diametrically opposed to each other. On the one hand Lolita feels like she, and by extension anyone else, ought to be able to post messages on the mailing list directed at a person or people in particular without others on the mailing list responding to the contents or making comments about the post itself. While I can see Lolita's point, and would even agree with her in a perfect world, I would say that while it might be nice to respond to someone privately in a public forum and it seems people do it all the time here it is STILL a public forum and you can't pretend that it isn't. Meanwhile we have Alex's last post and frankly I think he has gone WAYYYY over the top in his comments. I can see his point and even agree with his sentiment about how words can demean others through common usage and then after they become common terms people who would never knowingly use those words if they knew their derivation or the original meaning. BUT, WTF? Alex, if we were 'speaking' to each other or to a group of others and we didn't 'know' each other as well as we seem to 'know' each other then I would defend you to the utmost in your outrage over the usage of demeaning word and terms. It seems WAY over the top, to me, to get on your high horse all these years later and bitch about Lolita's (or anyone else's) slang or common speech. I don't mean to denigrate Alex regarding his post because, unless he's covering his tracks to make a point and save face, I really believe what he has to say. Normally, as I stated above, I would agree with him. In a public forum people have to be careful of what they say in this day and age of sensitive natured people, but in a forum where we're all familiar with each other it seems to me that at this point Alex is covering his tracks in his supposed outrage. So, good points on both sides of the argument, but at the same time I feel like they're both jousting with windmills. Again, I would ask Alex, as I did yesterday, Lolita finally responded to one of your posts after all these years. Is this REALLY the kind of discourse you were envisioning? Do you even care what the discourse was going to be? Does it matter? So, boys and girls, I would urge you to all play nice or go stand in the corner over there for awhile until you can. Hmmm....I wonder what kind of reaction this will get from people. *KABOOOOOM* |
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