Level 42 Digest for Friday, January 06, 2006

About 8 years ago i bought myself a PC and with my first cd burner. At the time it was all new and funky and the envy of all my mates. Anyway, when i bought the extra drive, it came with a fancy label making kit for the cd's, which made them all look rather dapper actually. I took great pride in copying all my Uni flatmates Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins and Teenage Fanclub collection and making them all look tremendous with beautifully created labels which i printed off and stuck on.

However, as time has passed, i've listened to my copied discs less and less, but now i've got an ipod i've dug them out to get them onto my new toy. Imagine my shock and utter disdain when i inserted them into my laptop only to discover that time has degraded these copied discs and they are now unreadable both on my stereo and on my computer.

I must have acquired over 300 copied cd's from friends and family over the years, (illegal as hell, i know, but do i look bovvered? It's opened up whole new avenues of music and artists for me, so i'll run the risk), and about 100 of them have these labels on them. Lo and behold, it's all the discs that have the labels that either don't work anymore or have poor sound quality!

Has anyone else encountered this? Surely I'm not the only one! I'll bet the manufacturers of these labels are unaware that their products actually damage the data on cd's over time. I'm not sure how, but the coincidence is too great - all my non labelled cd's work just fine.

A few years back, a kind digester provided me with copies of the digest cd's Past & Presence and AYGB. Both of these have got nice printed labels. Neither of them work now. Which means i'm going to have to hunt out my Overtime cd single from my mum's loft in order to get At This Great Distance on my ipod. Or i could just download it, of course, but that's not the point.

Go home people, hunt out any copied and labelled discs and find out if i'm either the unluckiest guy in the world or i've uncovered a global conspiricy to halt illegal cd copying.

Steve

1. Talbot, White, Gould & Astley
From:	mikethepom <mikethepom @ yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 5 Jan 2006 02:48:02 -0800 (PST)	[top]
> > > > A few weeks back there was mention of a CD by Talbot, White & Gould. I'm trying to trace the originator of this email... < < < < I think that'd be me, Fiona. Eric, the Digest Godfather, helped me out. He'll probably do the same for you, because that's the kinda guy he is... I've just been listening to Rick Astley's 1991 album Free, on which Mark King co-wrote a couple of tracks, Be With You and Really Got A Problem. Not too shabby, though I prefer Wonderful You and Behind The Smile. Cheers ~ Mike (Sydney City Milkman) __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com

2. re: Talbot/White CD ~ United States of Mind
From:	Eric J. Hansen <ehansen @ worldmachine.com>
Date:	Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:30:44 -0500	[top]
Fiona wrote: A few weeks back there was mention of a CD by Talbot, White & Gould. I'm trying to trace the originator of this email, but have failed via the archives (or perhaps I'm just not technical enough to find it!), however I'm trying to track down a copy of this CD, or where I can purchase it from. It's "United States of Mind", but Talbot & White. Phil Gould plays piano on one track, and is credited on a few others. The CD is worth getting if regularly priced, but its not so fantastic that I'd spend a huge sum of Ł/time tracking it down. That said, Amazon.co.uk seems to have it for Ł9.49: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000082MU/qid=1136474531/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_10_2/203-6564877-7569567 Here's also a much more detailed description of this album from Carl's all-knowing Forevernow.com site: http://www.forevernow.com/music/guest/talwh.shtml FYI, Talbot & White have 2 other CD's... Off The Beaten Track and Sticks & Stones. To my knowledge neither of them features Phil Gould. I have Off The Beaten Track, and its not as interesting as United States of Mind. cheers Eric

3. Talbot, White & Gould
From:	Gareth Donovan <girthdevon @ ntlworld.com>
Date:	Thu, 5 Jan 2006 11:03:22 -0000	[top]
Hi Fiona - I only have a vinyl copy available - a quick search showed these CD copies tho' :- http://www.priceminister.com/offer/buy/1723393/Talbot-White-United-States-Of-Minds-CD-Album.html http://www.cdzone.co.uk/rp=193164,info=1310916 http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=268739 http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000082MU/203-9169204-9228717 Cheers Gareth GIRTH DEVON MUSIC 39 Globe Road Hornchurch Essex RM11 1BW UK girthdevon @ ntlworld.com Ph. 01708 724349 Mob. 07712 668310 Web. http://girthdevon.gemm.com/ Web. http://girthdevon.netsoundsmusic.com Updated every week

4. Live at the Jazz Cafe CD
From:	Doug White <bigdp @ stanford.edu>
Date:	Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:30:28 -0800	[top]
Well gang, I decided, on the spur of the moment, to take a look at the Level 42 web site, noticed that I could buy stuff via pay pal and saw that I could buy the Jazz Cafe CD....so I did. Noticed there were some other things to buy, but refrained. Anyone care to clue me into some of these CDs.....don't bother telling me about one man, trash or influences since I've already got them. Some of the other things looked interesting, but I could use a review or critique or just some background. Thanks, Win, for pointing me here originally, it just took me awhile to followup. Meanwhile.....I am currently in mid June 2000 and right now there's lots of interesting discussions about basses to buy, Anthony Richards having decided he didn't have enough instruments to play already. Also some great talk about lots of jazz funk from the 70s and Lolita furiously taking notes and hardly any bashing going on....at least right now. Toodles, Doug

5. Appearances can be deceptive
From:	Stephen Whyte <stephen.whyte @ ascentmedia.co.uk>
Date:	Fri, 6 Jan 2006 09:10:18 -0000	[top]
Level 42 Digest for Thursday, January 05, 2006 About 8 years ago i bought myself a PC and with my first cd burner. At the time it was all new and funky and the envy of all my mates. Anyway, when i bought the extra drive, it came with a fancy label making kit for the cd's, which made them all look rather dapper actually. I took great pride in copying all my Uni flatmates Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins and Teenage Fanclub collection and making them all look tremendous with beautifully created labels which i printed off and stuck on. However, as time has passed, i've listened to my copied discs less and less, but now i've got an ipod i've dug them out to get them onto my new toy. Imagine my shock and utter disdain when i inserted them into my laptop only to discover that time has degraded these copied discs and they are now unreadable both on my stereo and on my computer. I must have acquired over 300 copied cd's from friends and family over the years, (illegal as hell, i know, but do i look bovvered? It's opened up whole new avenues of music and artists for me, so i'll run the risk), and about 100 of them have these labels on them. Lo and behold, it's all the discs that have the labels that either don't work anymore or have poor sound quality! Has anyone else encountered this? Surely I'm not the only one! I'll bet the manufacturers of these labels are unaware that their products actually damage the data on cd's over time. I'm not sure how, but the coincidence is too great - all my non labelled cd's work just fine. A few years back, a kind digester provided me with copies of the digest cd's Past & Presence and AYGB. Both of these have got nice printed labels. Neither of them work now. Which means i'm going to have to hunt out my Overtime cd single from my mum's loft in order to get At This Great Distance on my ipod. Or i could just download it, of course, but that's not the point. Go home people, hunt out any copied and labelled discs and find out if i'm either the unluckiest guy in the world or i've uncovered a global conspiricy to halt illegal cd copying. Steve Ascent Media Group Ltd, 1 Stephen Street, London W1T 1AL web: http://www.ascentmedia.co.uk The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, copy, distribute or disclose the e-mail or any part of its contents or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please e-mail the sender by replying to this message. All reasonable precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail. Ascent Media Group Ltd cannot accept responsibility for loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments and recommend that you subject these to your virus checking procedures prior to use.

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