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Friday, February 10, 2006 |
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| Topics for Friday, February 10, 2006 1. Iranian Caviar and Phil Gould, too??? - Doug White 2. Wow.....and Live @ the Isle Of Wight - Doug White 3. The Beginning of the End....announced - Doug White |
| 1. Iranian Caviar and Phil Gould, too??? |
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| From: | Doug White <bigdp @ stanford.edu> |
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| Date: | Thu, 09 Feb 2006 14:12:48 -0800 |
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| Wow, now this was something I didn't expect! I am now in early August of 2001 and there's been a big blowup over lyrics in general and Phil Gould's lyric writing in particular. This one involved Paul Clifton, AG & Friesen (on the same side, no less) Brian Flint, Colin G, Chris Lawless, some newbie by the name of Draftsman34 (who incurred wrath by having the temerity to insist that people say nice things about the boys and only talk about the boys (how naive!)) and a host of others. Included in the argument of the whole analization (yeah, I meant to spell it EXACTLY like that) of Phil's lyrical ability were ad-hominem attacks, people citing their level of post graduate study (ooh, my doctorate trumps your masters), Tom Trudell and Don Z offered to show people their lyric writing skills. Then Loz dropped an absolutely funny bit where he writes lyrics that reference the argument....I was cracking up. Here is very favorite stanza: How can you say these guys are poor? They're better that Byron or Shelley! so to anyone who whines about Phil or Boons rhymes I'd just like to say that you're smelly. The camps were of the Phil wrote is best lyrics due to his anger toward Mark and the rest of his lyrics were sophomoric OR that the other camp was full of it and while pop lyrics ARE pop lyrics Phil's lyrics had more depth and were better than 90% of the average pop song writers are. The heat of the argument was quite strident and of course our Man Flint was his usual wonderful self. He wrote this gem that I mostly agree with, although he gives AG too little credit, I think: The interesting thing here is that everyone thinks they can beat Freisen, not true. Don't even try. The Nightfly can fence him to a draw. But that's about it. If any of you actually believe you have bested him, then one of two things occurred. 1) He's let you. 2) He beat you so bad you were spun around so many times that you were so dizzy you actually believe you won. and then added this gem which ought to be the digest rule: A sense of humor, indifference to what others may or may not say, and a quick wit reigns here. <----Ain't that the absolute truth? I was awestruck by his insight! I wish I could be that brilliant in my writing. and finished later on with this little gem: In days of yore, surnames were meaningful....I figure that holds true for Freisen, he's from Canada, so it makes sense. I was quite disappointed that Fred did not rear his head (at least so far) to throw his weight around. He would have good company with Mr Clifton who while being the thrower of sheep skin size was actually quite civil. This line was something I thought summed up everything else ....'oh and i didn't complete a doctorate in english literature to not flex my critiquing skills.' While it was a self serving and haughty comment, I felt like it was rather restrained in its delivery. Mr Friesen let me down though when he didn't respond to Mr Clifton's calling him an American.....I was so disappointed. Yes, I am easily amused. Can ya tell? AG had me going there for a second with his contention that IT would be idyllic if we all thought alike...yeah I see the point, but the very idea of such vanilla-ness gives me the willies. And then the talk denigrated to Cadbury chocolate and collapsed..... It was fun while it lasted, though! Bye all, Doug | ||
| 2. Wow.....and Live @ the Isle Of Wight |
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| From: | Doug White <bigdp @ stanford.edu> |
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| Date: | Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:08:06 -0800 |
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| Folks, I take it back, Paul Clifton is a bitter, bitter man....he may indeed have a good reason, but a bitter, bitter man, indeed. I listened to the Isle of Wight CD and thought at first it sounded rather thin..so after monkeying around with the presets on the CD player, I found it sounded best when it was using the New Age setting....that gave me a pretty good laugh. That aside, I really enjoyed the play list. I can see why people have been griping about the fact that the set list was the same time after time, it was really great to hear something different with songs from Trash and One Man. I did miss not hearing 'See you at the Bar.' so I suppose I will just have to buy the DVD. I also began listening to the 3rd disk of The Hit Collection and one of the first things I thought was, 'wow it sounds just like the 'As Years Go By' disk or is it 'Past & Presence'? I don't have either in front of me, but I was shocked by how similar it sounded. Although the first song was absolutely killer! I didn't get through the whole disk before getting to work, but the Demo for Out of Sight, Out of Mind was terrific. And Micro Kid Rocked!!!! And again, Tom Trudell deserves some sales for his exquisite Emerald Soul album 'Another Meaningless Crisis', give the man a chance and a listen and I think you'll rave about the album, too. Doug | ||
| 3. The Beginning of the End....announced |
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| From: | Doug White <bigdp @ stanford.edu> |
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| Date: | Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:30:56 -0800 |
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| Alright....so the announcement that I was wondering about has finally been made by Eric, the Digest is gonna die, in about a month and 10 days. So, that brings me to the question that I've been wondering about alot as I've been reading. Who made the switch to the web digest? Do you think many old time, and I don't mean original members like Pat Flanagan or Friesen, but anyone who was on the digest back in 2001 went there and are still there and never came back. Obviously, we shed member to a degree that we're about a third or so of the peak. I may go look at the Web Digest at some point, but I hate the forum style that it is in....but maybe that makes me a web forum Luddite, I don't know. Which leads me to questions about gigs and Britfests, the several time delayed Weert based Low Land Level Feest, and more. How did the 2001 Level fest go? Did the LLLF ever fly? Were there any more Texas Level Round Ups? Did Mark release CDs of the gigs he did in 2001 or 2002? Which one(s) are they? Anyone up to answering these and any of the other questions I've posed recently....? I hope, as I've made mention to some in private email, that I am not wearing out my welcome..... Toodles, all Doug |
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