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Topics for Tuesday, March 30, 2004

    1.  TSGD...again... - Stephen Whyte
    2.  Probably not a tribute to Charlie Parker - jt
    3.  mark king hateration - level42love
    4.  "Vulcan princess" - DonZipf @ aol.com
    5.  Want to see L42 in NYC? - DonZipf @ aol.com
    6.  :re "Bird" on Level 42 Albums - Ruth Beckett
    7.  Vulcan Princess - Lolitaj @ aol.com
    8.  Janet on Dave - DonZipf @ aol.com

1.  TSGD...again...
From: Stephen Whyte <Stephen.Whyte @ lpc.tv>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 11:46:10 +0100
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I asked a question re. The Sun Goes Down 12" last week, but no one
responded at all, so I'll try again. I know the cover for this single is
available with both blue and white lettering, but which is the
mistake/rarest out of the two? Come on, someone must know.

Also, I've been having a clearout of my cd collection and I've discovered a
few cd's I've got duplicates of. I don't want any money for them, so if
anybody can provide a good home for the following discs then drop me a
line, (although a copy of the To Be With You Again cd single would be
nice...)

Take A Look, cd single
Love In A Peaceful World, pts 1 & 2 cd singles
My Fathers Shoes, 1 track cd promo

Steve



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2.  Probably not a tribute to Charlie Parker
From: jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 04:44:05 -0800 (PST)
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-Loz
> The ‘bird’ on the cover of the Level 42
> LP and numerous other places is T’pring
> – Vulcan princess.

Yes, but little, aside from that, is known.
I believe the biography dismisses all discussion of
album covers which, to me, has always been a slightly
interesting thing to learn about. (e.g. at which point
in making an album does, say, Phil Collins have an
epiphany to, yet again, put his ugly mug on the album
cover?)

The cover is how one chooses to visually present the
work. Display, not too mention sell it to the public.
(think of all the meetings for _Smell the Glove_)

This has always been a curious aspect, to me, of
Level42. They have always seemed to be a band
desperately looking for a hook, an imagine. Just note
how many times their “level42” logo has changed,
finally (kind of) settling on one with _Running in the
Family_, their 7th major release, to then drop it
again (or morph it around, or not use it to its
fullest).

Was “the princess” painting simply bought and then
used? Was it commissioned?
And why was this the image settled on to represent the
work for the self-titled album?
It does have 1970s tinges to it…but all I can really
think of was that they took a bunch of group photos
and none of them seemed proper front cover material. I
can only imagine that the afro Mike was carrying at
the time offset any type of balance with any photo.

Damn shame whatshisname dropped the new bio project;
there are quite a few things about this little band we
don’t know.

I believe we can totally rule out ever getting a true
answer (not too mention a punctual one) from MK, but I
would have to think Mike would be pretty forthcoming
on just about anything he was asked. I would say the
same for Boon, but the closing of a public site seems
to be a step back in the way of public access.
I can try to type a not-too-wordy question and post it
on Mike’s site, which he does seem to answer every
month or so, or someone less abrupt than I can give it
a go.
j(ay)

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3.  mark king hateration
From: level42love <level42love @ yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 08:49:01 -0800 (PST)
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Man, that "L()Z" guy really dislikes Mark.
 
When I am having a good day, reading his anti-Mark posts puts a sort of cloud over it nad makes me sad. I have met Mark and I think he is a nice guy.
 
It was backstage outside after last fall's Glasgow gig. He looks alot older than I thought he would look, alot shorter too. The show was very energetic and I blame whatever lack of soul on the musicians. OK, so Boon and Phil and Mike are more soulful than we thought while they were together. The current line-up is less soulful and it's no wonder I was the only Black in the audience!
 
Anyways, Mark was very nice and already had a sharpie pen to signs autographs with. It was hella cold outside but he wasn't rushing to get onto the warm tour bus so he could commune with us fans. Not shy at all, almost... jolly.
 
Mike is also very nice. I've met him 3 times (Madonna tour in '87, Da Lata tour and this month). I think I may have startled him with my hip-hop ebonics ("big ups, Mike") but he seemed enthusiastic when I mentioned his early works ("Woman") and how "Changes" is one of my all-time, life-changing, favorite songs.
 
So the band split up. So the boys have different personalities. Things happen. It's like parents divorcing and us kids choosing sides between mommy (mike) and daddy (mark).
 
--jennifer
 
"answers on a postcard please..."


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4.  "Vulcan princess"
From: DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:51:51 EST
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Loz wrote:
> The ‘bird’ on the cover of the Level 42 LP and numerous other places is
> T’pring – Vulcan princess.

Points of contention:

1.  T'Pring was not a princess, if I recall that episode ("Amok Time") correctly.  She was just a Vulcan babe who was betrothed to Spock.

2.  The woman depicted on the Level 42 cover(s) is not actually T'Pring, but rather was only inspired by the character from Star Trek.

I think the "Vulcan princess" thing is just a phrase MK or somebody in the L42 camp came up with to describe the cover.

Debate?  -  Z


5.  Want to see L42 in NYC?
From: DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:19:04 EST
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Go here and cast your vote....

  http://www.bbkingblues.com/suggestartist/suggestArtist.cgi

Cheers - Z



6.  :re "Bird" on Level 42 Albums
From: Ruth Beckett <ruth @ galifrey.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:07:24 +0100
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Yes Loz is right the woman is in the episode Amok Time
as they say on Vulcan "Live long and prosper"
 
Bassgirl xx


7.  Vulcan Princess
From: Lolitaj @ aol.com <Lolitaj @ aol.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:18:30 EST
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In a message dated 3/29/2004 4:57:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, Level42 @ Level42Digest.com writes:

The ‘bird’ on the cover of the Level 42 LP and numerous other places is T’pring – Vulcan princess.

 

Very appropriate since there is a Stanley Clarke CD called Vulcan Princess, and Mark is a big fan.  As has been said before, take a listen to Heathrow and the song Lopsy Lu from Vulcan Princess back to back and you can hear it...


8.  Janet on Dave
From: DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 00:51:44 EST
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What was the best thing about Janet Jackson's interview on the Letterman show last night?

It was even better with the sound turned down, and Level 42 blasting from the speakers!  (Hey, weren't nuthin' wrong with that picture!)  ;o)

But what a liar she is.  Geez, why couldn't she just be a grown-up and own her deeds.  We usually forgive those who admit their mistakes.  What an idiot.

Z


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