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Topics for Tuesday, February 10, 2004

    1.  Meaning What? - Tom Brown
    2.  Slippery People - jt
    3.  Veronica's Rocknite - Winston Walker
    4.  Level 42 to play with Simple Minds in the Netherlands - walter
    5.  The Wild Ones - =?iso-8859-1?q?Andrew=20Goodwin?=

1.  Meaning What?
From: Tom Brown <tbrown @ britishsugar.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 10:34:25 +0000
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>>To me he looks like he belongs in a German concentration camp

Aric, I'm not totally sure what you're trying to say here, but this is
mightily close to being very offensive. Maybe a different choice of
analogy may be wiser.

-T


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2.  Slippery People
From: jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 03:14:50 -0800 (PST)
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-RightAgainstLeft @ aol.com

>The digest is the only email I enjoy
> opening up to read on a daily basis.

Don’t get much mail, do you? Hell, I’ve read spam more
interesting...

>fading pop star's obviously fake breast

Looked like a pretty real breast from here.

> I do think most Americans have
> become far too jaded with all of this nonsense that
> dominates our pop culture.

Not that I disagree but America _is_ pop culture.
Without it it’s a very large continent based on false
history. I’ll take Ms. Spears over that.

>If you have to
> rely on debauchery to sell records it's obvious you
> don't have much in the way of genuine talent.

What is "talent"? Can one not have "talent" for, say,
"debauchery"?

> Ms. Jackson's choice to flash a national audience on
> stage was just stupid in light of the trouble her
> brother is in

I very much agree.

>As far as Mr. Timberlake is concerned, I just
> don't get it. I've never heard of this punk before
> this incident occurred,

Don’t own a radio, do you?

>To me he looks like he belongs in a
> German concentration camp.

This is the most bizarre comment I’ve seen in some
time.
And just to keep you current, they (Germans) no longer
have such things.

>I doubt many people will
> remember this kid five years from now.

I’ll take that bet. Big time.

> The real tragedy in this situation
> was that it was one of the best Super Bowl games
> ever,

Maybe, if you’ve only been watching them for 2 or 3
years.

>If I ordered a Justin
> Timberlake CD off Amazon, they would have shipped it
> out in twenty four hours. What's wrong with this
> picture?

Nothing "wrong" with it. You’ve placed an order for a
band that no one (sales-wise, and getting to be
fan-wise) gives a damn about anymore. If you ordered
an album from (one of) the best selling ‘artists’
today and didn’t get it lickety split, _then_ there
would be something wrong. These albums ship platinum.

The only thing platinum about "level42" is that it is
a word MK will probably throw onto a tour title at
some point.
j(ay)


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3.  Veronica's Rocknite
From: Winston Walker <winman42 @ comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 10:12:56 -0500
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Well, I have to say I agree with some of the points posted by most folks,

Including Aric. I think that when folks start stripping on stage, it shows

They have no confidence in their singing ability, or performing ability.

For the life of me I cant understand why Janet Jackson would think

This was a smart thing to do, even if she only meant to show her bra.

 

While not a Justin Timberlake fan at all, I’m not sure if I understand

The remark you made Aric, saying he ‘looks like he belongs in a

German concentration camp’. What in the hell does that mean?

I sure hope you meant to say something else.

 

On a lighter note, If anyone is interested in downloading some video footage...

I noticed this morning that the 60 min concert from

Veronica's Rocknight has been posted to the following

newsgroup:

 

Alt.binaries.mpeg.video.music

 

Its a live show introduced by Adam Curry. Its in AVI

format, approx 716meg in size. Tracks are as follows:

 

Almost There

Turn It On

Dune Tune / Bass Solo

Love Games

I Want Eyes

Foundation & Empire

The Sun Goes Down

Hot Water

The Chinese Way

Are You Hearing?

 

Its been posted in WinRar format, 50 parts, when combined

becomes the AVi file. Video format is pretty clean, with a

good amount of Tape hiss.

 

Worth the download if you havent seen this gig.

 

Winston



4.  Level 42 to play with Simple Minds in the Netherlands
From: walter <walter @ microkid.demon.nl>
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 19:23:03 +0100
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Simple Minds will play in Hellendoorn, Netherlands. This will be a one-time only concert on May 22. Level 42 will be the support act.

Ticket sales start Saturday 14th of February.



5.  The Wild Ones
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Andrew=20Goodwin?= <thenightfly83 @ yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 22:11:53 +0000 (GMT)
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>2. leaping to the defence of BRMC
>From: Stephen.Whyte @ lpc.tv <
 Stephen.Whyte @ lpc.tv>
>
>Oh, come on now. That's low...

Look, you VOLUNTEERED to be the running gag, and I
never promised to exclude private jokes.

>I've been to a couple of gigs on my own before. The
most recent gig I went
>to on my own was to see Mike perform at The Goose pub
towards the end of
>last year. Thing is though, some sort of company is
nice before the gig,
>between bands and then to discuss it with afterwards.

Are you insane? There is nothing more irritating than
having someone else’s opinion rammed home just as
you’re absorbing your own response. “L’enfer, c’est
les autres.” Although personally I adhere to the
belief that “L’enfer, c’est les francais.”

>But to answer your three conditions, i have to say
the following: a) sing for it

“Allons enfants de la Patrie,
Le jour de gloire est arrivé!” etc.

>b) i know your feelings on this fine city, so it'd be
like drawing blood from a stone

Well, to be fair, I like the squirrels which will eat
from your hand in Holland Park. But that’s pretty much
all London has going for it.

>c) what do you mean "once we do meet..."? Just in
case though, i'll be
>sure to wear my BRMC t-shirt, get miraculously drunk
and stand right in
>front of you at the gig.

Only if you promise to sing along. And look daggers at
me for not standing up. And bring George Benson’s bass
player with you for good measure.

>3. Mark King on BBC1
>From: James Watkins <
james @ bpbaxter.co.uk>
>
>Anybody else see Mark on BBC1 last night (Thursday)?
He was on for at least half a second.

Just you I think. How long have you been sitting
watching TV on the off chance?

>4. We Took The Village By Suprise...
>From: dean.osborn <
dean.osborn @ bt.com>
>
>The League knows that sex sells, and dresses it's
cheerleaders in very skimpy and suggestive uniforms
with extremely suggestive dance routines, and let's
not be coy here, they know that men at football games
ogle them and use their imagination. So for the NFL to
parade women in that fashion and then throw their arms
up in disgust at JJ's breast is gross hypocrisy - what
are they saying ? Suggestion is fine but revelation is
out of bounds ?

Well, I take your point that in a sense their bluff
has been called, but personally I feel that there is a
very broad line between suggestion and revelation.
There is a world of difference between being teased
and tantalised and having something laid bare before
you. That said, if an organisation plays with fire
repeatedly then it’s in a largely defenceless position
if its fingers get burned.

>Let's not even go into the subjects sung by the half
time music artists , and they say this is family
entertainment...

I was particularly impressed by P Diddy, a man so
endowed with talent he has to mime talking. (‘Rapping’
I believe the young folk call it.)

>My point ? - all of this stuff happens week after
week in the NFL and no-one bats an eyelid, so why the
big deal now ?

I suspect you’re being deliberately disingenuous Dean
(note for Tom, second meaning – “pretending to be
unaware or unsophisticated”.) Across all sorts of
media, excitement is generated by going right to the
line without going over it, by remaining in an
implicit safety zone which subliminally reassures
while consciously engendering stimulus. If you cross
that line you’re shattering all sorts of psychological
defence mechanisms, and it’s to that that people
reacted so violently. I’m not disputing there’s a
degree of hypocrisy in it – “We’re all complicit in
this charade of decency, how dare you expose us” – but
I also think there’s some legitimacy to it as well.
Jackson and Timberlake may have only gone one step
further than was being taken already, but it was a
big, clumsy, tawdry step.

Personally I’m just disappointed that after 15 years
of finding Janet Jackson cute as hell I now find
myself looking at her and thinking “You sad old
Madonna-aping slapper’. (No offence to anybody who
might manage to be offended by that.)

>5. Sport
>From: dean.osborn <
dean.osborn @ bt.com>
>
>Not to take anything away from Loz or AG, but I feel
I must apologise somewhat as it was my original post
backing the Panthers for the Superbowl that started
this whole sports thing

Pah, anybody can START talking about something. It
takes a special gift to ramble on about it
frothy-mouthed for days.

AG



    
    
        
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