Level 42 Digest for Saturday, March 20, 2004

Yo, let Mark King get his Level 42 on. He seems to be a nice man, anyways. Don't hate: congratulate!

As for Mark's relationship with the other boys, I doubt that Mike (whom I saw live at Pizza On The Park) would even touch any L42 material if the split were that acrimonious.

Speaking of Pizza on the Park, Mike's show was brilliant and very, very English. Very English. I had a front row side table right behind Mike. I was sitting to close to him that I could see the exact keys for most of the songs. I think I was four or five feet away from him. Kind of weird, I felt like I was on the freakin' stage with him! The live version of 'Changes' was beautiful. Mike's wife, Samantha, was there. I recognized her from the wedding pix on mikelindup.com . Some lady at the show thought I was Mike's cousin, confirming my suspicion that Mike is a "brotha", or at least one half of him is!

Now that I've seen Mike and Mark's Level 42 separately, I appreciate how much Mike really created and developed the original Level 42 sound. It's like Mark is the fire, Mike is the warm West wind, Boon is the thoughtfulness and Phil, like God, is in the details.

--jennifer

"answers on a postcard please..."

1. You've Got Mail
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Andrew=20Goodwin?= <thenightfly83 @ yahoo.co.uk>
Date:	Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:14:52 +0000 (GMT)	[top]
>2. All that Meat and No Potatoes >From: jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com> > >> You don’t like Level 42 > >They were ok. You seem to spend an awful lot of time on a band you deem to have been merely OK. I thought Johnny Hates Jazz were OK, but I don't spend my time berating people who thought they were the greatest band ever on the JHJ Digest. If such a thing exists. And if it doesn't, surely we should create it for the sheer hell of it. "They were never the same with Phil Thornalley!" "Why can’t you just accept them for what they were, why always harking back to Clark Datchler" etc. >5. Same old same-old >From: DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com> > >The man has said they're going to record this year. Maybe, maybe not. But let's wait and see. If it turns out he lied, then we can dump on him. But he lies all the time, and yet a diminishing number of people here still wag their tails every time a nugget like this is sent forth. As long as there are enough people out there who'll go and see the greatest hits plus three rarely played album tracks, that's what we'll get. And frankly, as a perennial procrastinator myself, good luck to him. >7. level 42 web digest >From: RobMansfield @ aol.com <RobMansfield @ aol.com> > >any of you guys having trouble login into the web digest site, or is it just me? Just went there for the first time in months to check on your behalf. No problem logging in, but I did stumble across a truly horrifying thread in which some fruitcake asks for advice on his love life, and our very own caring sharing jt offers his wisdom in response. Because when your heart is breaking, it's the opinions of a misanthropist you really need. It's in the Off Topic section called The Next Step, and I commend it to you as quite the most surreal display of something that should be kept private you'll ever see. >1. various artists >From: Green, Laurence <Laurence.Green @ carillionwsp.com> > >So are you a believer, or not? The 'saviour of the digest' thing is a joke from way back Jay. Not self-deification. Dammit, I'd better bin this here script for The Passion Of The Laurence I've been working on. >2. Yahoo! Auto Response >From: matthew.sparks @ btopenworld.com <matthew.sparks @ btopenworld.com> > >Many thanks for your e-mail. No no, thank you for your auto response. >I'm away until Tuesday, getting horribly drunk in Suffolk. You crazy, zany dude! Tsk! >3. More material soon . . . proven! >From: Tom Foolery <grooveyardtom @ yahoo.com> > >I think that the "Mark's ideas have dried up" explanation for the lack of new material is just nonsense… Second idea - Mark's too timid to display new material… uh, I don't think so… Third idea - Mark's milking the past for money? That crass mercantilist sentiment doesn't jibe with the emotional and philosophic character of the music he has written… So, I conclude, there is no reason why we should not be getting new material someday. You appear to have forgotten the fourth option - He Can’t Be Arsed. AG ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html

2. T'ank yew Veddy Much
From:	jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com>
Date:	Fri, 19 Mar 2004 03:52:05 -0800 (PST)	[top]
-Loz > So are you a believer, or not? Um, of what? >The ‘saviour of > the digest’ thing is a joke from way back Jay. Yes, 2 (or 3) months. Your sense of timing is arcane. But useful, I guess. > Physician, heal thyself. (continues the biblical > theme) I do, thanks. Better yet, I am currently working on some anti-Loz antibodies, so in the future, if all goes well (and funding holds out), I’ll be able to "heal" many. -alex.friesen Long time no see, AF. > Well, no. The music business is a business. Well, while I get where you’re coming from, gawd knows we’ve tried to talk about "music" here and that got nowhere...so, my "bottom line" was, obviously, music as career. i.e. "level42". (or l42/simple minds, in this case) > The latter can exist without the former, but not the > other way 'round. Yes, but can one market 'princess' basses that way? > DonZipf @ aol.com> >I love piano music, but that record [Lindup’s new one] is just WAY to > all-over-the-map, stylistically. Yeah? Small map. > But I continue to disagree about what Mark is doing > with the new line-up. The Marx Brothers have officially dropped the joke now that you’ve repeated your mantra for 2 days in a row. Continue on. Day 2 -Loz > As for Boon and Phil – who knows. Well, Lisa H mentioned some eventual material of Phil’s going up "soon", but that was...around October, no? - More material soon . . . proven! -Tom Foolery >Sure, I merely speculate, but my god, for a > player and writer of his [MK’s] magnitude to just >lose interest or ability in musical composition? I > don't see it. Tom, you’ve graced us with your wit in the past so I can’t really tell if you are all of a sudden a confused, disillusioned fanboy or your very dry cutting sarcasm is at its most brilliant throughout this post... > Second idea - Mark's too timid to display new > material > . . . uh, I don't think so. Leading bands into > stadiums and being on the mic, that's not a timid > person. Is it? Well, when one has to get bloody sauced to do it that kinda tells you something... Not too mention music history is laden with the soft, quiet type people who manager careers are performers… > Third idea - Mark's milking the past for money? That > crass mercantilist sentiment doesn't jibe with the > emotional and philosophic character of the music he > has written. Heh heh. This can’t be serious... > So, I conclude, there is no reason why we should not > be getting new material someday. Not many doubt material will eventually come out, more so the question is: why do many assume it will be rich material (?) and for what reason do you really think said material will (eventually) be released for (?). The philosophy (if you will) that "a fine wine takes time" is just 'optimistic' horse pucky that rallies against oh, just EVERYTHING (literature, music, art, theories, science, um, wine, et. al)...with, of course, some exceptions but I kinda reallllllly doubt this is one of them. Sorry, there is far more 'proof' (taken from your subject title) that falls against your theories than for. > Finally, the "Needless Scorching Flamethrower" award > this week goes to (j) Does a check come with that? >who is in fact some incarnation > of Shiva the Destroyer. Um, again, I’m not sure if this is wit or just lack-of knowledge: you’re aware that "Shiva" means "the good" and that he is known as "the greatest god" and other such things? That what he "destroyed" was "evil", ja? Or did you mean Dr. Vandana Shiva "the world's most celebrated holistic ecofeminist"? (I kid you not) Leave all that religious stuff to Loz. And let’s leave my third eye out of this, please. > Do you create as well as you destroy? Please see above (antibodies)... Don’t get so uptight, Mr. Foolery, Loz knows I’m only...serious. We go "way back" j(ay) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com

3. Loz in Love
From:	DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com>
Date:	Fri, 19 Mar 2004 14:39:50 EST	[top]
Loz wrote: > I not particularly interested in the output of the other guys Mark plays with, > except for a passing interest in Garyā€™s work. Why not? How do you know that, given the chance, they might hit their stride as comosers and surprise us all? From what you've said, it sounds to me like you're more interested in personalities than in music. Frankly, Loz, I think you're in love with Phil, and jealous of Mark. Z.

4. Mark King-bashing
From:	level42love <level42love @ yahoo.com>
Date:	Fri, 19 Mar 2004 13:11:14 -0800 (PST)	[top]
Yo, let Mark King get his Level 42 on. He seems to be a nice man, anyways. Don't hate: congratulate! As for Mark's relationship with the other boys, I doubt that Mike (whom I saw live at Pizza On The Park) would even touch any L42 material if the split were that acrimonious. Speaking of Pizza on the Park, Mike's show was brilliant and very, very English. Very English. I had a front row side table right behind Mike. I was sitting to close to him that I could see the exact keys for most of the songs. I think I was four or five feet away from him. Kind of weird, I felt like I was on the freakin' stage with him! The live version of 'Changes' was beautiful. Mike's wife, Samantha, was there. I recognized her from the wedding pix on mikelindup.com . Some lady at the show thought I was Mike's cousin, confirming my suspicion that Mike is a "brotha", or at least one half of him is! Now that I've seen Mike and Mark's Level 42 separately, I appreciate how much Mike really created and developed the original Level 42 sound. It's like Mark is the fire, Mike is the warm West wind, Boon is the thoughtfulness and Phil, like God, is in the details. --jennifer "answers on a postcard please..." Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam

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