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Topics for Monday, December 13, 2004

    1.  Answer to Stephen Whyte and others - Norman
    2.  Michael T. Payne - Pete Willis
    3.  MikeLindup.com - Bilal42 @ aol.com
    4.  Bullitt - Andrew Goodwin
    5.  tour 'n' stuff - Green, Laurence

1.  Answer to Stephen Whyte and others
From: Norman <express @ hetnet.nl>
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 11:34:34 +0100
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Mike is recording at the moment, a new Da Lata album will be released soon, if nothin goes wrong.
Mike also is recording and touring with several other artists (no names to mention though)
 
Norman


2.  Michael T. Payne
From: Pete Willis <peteburywillis @ hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 10:50:19 -0000
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Cracking post Mikey and really good to read your comments.
 
I knew it was worth hanging in with the digest and that there were a few decent fans still out there with a balanced view instead of all this negativity I keep reading
 
Nice one
 
cheers
 
Pete
 
www.PeteWillisMusic.co.uk
 
 
 
 


3.  MikeLindup.com
From: Bilal42 @ aol.com <Bilal42 @ aol.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:03:46 EST
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In a message dated 12/12/2004 10:21:12 AM GMT Standard Time, Level42 @ Level42Digest.com writes:
I visited mikelindup.com the other day and was somewhat disappointed to see it hadn't been updated since March.  Does anyone know what Mike is up to at the moment or is there any news of a new song album or live appearances?
 
Sorry about lack of updates. Mike is a father now, I'll let you know when there is a new update.
On another note, I've been rediscovering the Forever Now album - brilliant, I'll never tire of it.
 
Mark King's tour - loved Physical Presence, and this year's Running in the Family was fantastic, in fact I liked all the tracks, I hope there are some recordings. I was at the Wolverhampton show, and a bunch of people from work were there, I'm so glad it was a good show! The bass sound / tone seems to have improved.
 
Bilal


4.  Bullitt
From: Andrew Goodwin <thenightfly83 @ yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 00:44:04 +0000 (GMT)
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> 1. possible sighting of AG's humour return?
> From: Pete Willis
>
> >AG Why, have you found your sense of humour
> again!!! Thought it had gone quiet after my
> observations about you the other day. A touch
> embarrassed I guess!!

To be honest Pete, I've always liked you and therefore
I opted not to point out the ham-fistedness of your
attempt to retrospectively excuse your (mildly
exaggerated for comedic effect but nevertheless
sincere) defence of the "if you don't love the current
gigs you're stuck in 1984" line with that old
chestnut, "It was all sarcastic and you fell for it!"
But, what the hell, it's Christmas, have it any way
you want it. You totally outwitted me. I'm delirious
with humiliation and shame. Well done.

> Haven't you got a put down for me liking the new U2
> LP then? Don't tell me you are going to give your
> permission for others to possibly enjoy this music
> release!!

I've never attempted to proscribe anybody from
listening to anything - is it really so difficult to
distinguish comment from instruction? If I say that
Keane are a hideously watered-down, anodyne Coldplay,
who themselves are a hideously watered-down, anodyne
Radiohead, I don't read myself telling anyone not to
listen to them. It's called opinion. As far as U2 go,
if people choose to enjoy simplistic four chord rock
performed by self-important demagogues who are
comfortable preaching about world debt and touting
iPods at the same time, good luck to them. How could
anyone not enjoy U2's hilarious following of the words
"Uno, dos, tres" with "catorce"? Has me in stitches
every time.

Thinking about it, you're right that I should not pass
critical comment on anything. Everything has merit,
everything that everybody enjoys is wonderful,
everything that everybody says here makes perfect
sense and is well reasoned and argued. What a blissful
Utopia this is where we are all absolutely right about
everything all of the time.

> 5. Hand over your Level 42 fan card.......
> From: Michael T. Payne
>
> Gosh, where to start...... Well if you call the
> period between the end of L42 and the start of GMK
> 'fruitful' then maybe that needs to be looked into,
> no doubt the community was able to 'come together'
> but as far as material of any live performances from
> any member - THERE WERE ZERO!

But that's exactly the point he was making. Initially
you made the comment that without Mark King
performing, this forum would cease to exist; Laurence
countered that there wasn't much evidence for this
given that one of the most productive times in the
digest's history was precisely that period when
nothing whatsoever was happening (the digest archives
provide adequate evidence of this, if anyone is sad
enough to require proof). It's hard to argue with a
man who takes his opponent's strongest points and
adopts them as his own.

As Tom insightfully put it yesterday "Sadly, the
activities of Mark King are getting to be irrelevant
to the existence of this digest". He's right. How many
of the people who were motivated enough to go to the
gigs commented on them? Of those who did, there were
more crestfallen reactions than positive ones, and
given that those positive ones were often from people
who felt starved of anything L42 related, one wonders
whether MK shouldn't bite the bullet next time and try
to take this tour over to the States for a few weeks
to find an audience to whom this is all spangly new
rather than disappointingly stale.

AG


        
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5.  tour 'n' stuff
From: Green, Laurence <Laurence.Green @ carillionwsp.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 08:15:59 -0000
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>Is it just me, or can anybody else spot a teensy weensy problem with
these two statements? Loz, I'm highly >impressed by your ability to rate
the current performances by GMK/L42 as having "no creativity at all" and
"not >exceptional" without actually going to them.

I went to loads of 'Mark King' tours, and loved them a great deal.
Although slightly peeved that Mark (dropped the drummer and) renamed his
band 'Level 42' I naturally went along to the tours as 'Level 42'. I
soon got turned off by the endless replaying of old hits, but kept the
faith for, what, four tours - I really did give Mark a chance. But after
Sheffield last year, I decided not to go to any more. So I've made my
decision - if I had to go to a tour in order to decided whether or not
it was good enough to warrant attendance I'd need a time machine to make
sense of it all.

As I said, I'll happily sit on my perch chirping away about how naff ALL
80s retro bands are, but I'd much rather discuss Level 42 1980-1994,
music I still listen to and still rate very highly.

L()Z

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