Level 42 Digest for Friday, February 06, 2004

Friday, February 06, 2004

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Topics for Friday, February 06, 2004

    1.  Gutter-bound - jt
    2.  less fussball more fuss - Green, Laurence
    3.  FA cup - Glyn Willett
    4.  Football crazy, football mad - Marc Daniels
    5.  The Elementary Particles - jt
    6.  (no subject specified) - Green, Laurence
    7.  Radio and VCD's - Dave Webster
    8.  The inexpense of golf - DonZipf @ aol.com
    9.  (no subject specified) - tazbad
    10.  Mute Witness - =?iso-8859-1?q?Andrew=20Goodwin?=

1. Gutter-bound
From:	jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 5 Feb 2004 02:31:00 -0800 (PST)	[top]
-Colin Gupta > Although, The Dude, Walter and Donny love to roll. Don’t forget Jesus (no relation to Loz). j(ay) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

2. less fussball more fuss
From:	Green, Laurence <Laurence.Green @ carillionwsp.com>
Date:	Thu, 5 Feb 2004 12:18:11 -0000	[top]
‘SOCcer’ is an abbreviation of ‘AsSOCiation football’. Deep breath everyone because I’m about to use an Americanism – enough already, You’re kind-right about funk. But slap bass without direction isn’t necessarily funky. You can’t just rely on frenetic instrument playing to achieve a funky sound, it’s about a groove. Check out ‘Love Meeting Love’ from Mark’s last tour, completely de-funked. It’s all about groove for me. L()Z Laurence Green Structures Engineer CarillionWSP 0114 2942553

3. FA cup
From:	Glyn Willett <Glyn.Willett @ argos.co.uk>
Date:	Thu, 5 Feb 2004 12:43:30 -0000	[top]
Anselm Gaynor wrote: > Football is a common term for 'Associated Football'. Soccer is what Americans call it. It has always been called football in the UK, and if the da y ever comes that British TV stations start calling it "soccer", I will start watching cricket in protest. Or quite possibly Darts. > Well in that case you should start watching the upcoming test series against the West Indies as there's a show on Sky Sports called "Soccer AM" which has been around for the last 10 years or so. AG's synopsis on the game was spot on but can I just say that the game does have it's great moments which far out weight it's sometimes negative image. I've just spent the whole morning taking the pss out of my friend and colleague at work today (which will probably run well into next week) following his teams hilarious exit from the FA Cup (the worlds best and favourite domestic cup competition (put that in ya pipe and smoke it Americans!)). The team in question, Spurs, were 3 goals up at half time against Manchester City (who had a man sent off in the first half) but then in the best game I've seen in ages squandered their lead in the second half when City scored 4 goals to win 4-3. This is what football is all about - not the hooligans that give the game such a bad press. Glyn. ********************************************************************************** Click here to visit the Argos home page http://www.argos.co.uk The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be privileged and confidential, and is intended exclusively for the addressee. The views expressed may not be official policy, but the personal views of the originator. If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, reproduction, dissemination or use of this communication is not authorised. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender by using the reply facility in your e-mail software. All messages sent and received by Argos Ltd are monitored for virus, high risk file extensions, and inappropriate content. As a result users should be aware that mail maybe accessed.

4. Football crazy, football mad
From:	Marc Daniels <m.daniels @ ucl.ac.uk>
Date:	Thu, 5 Feb 2004 14:26:54 -0000	[top]
From: Ian Lovell <ian_lovell @ msn.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 20:12:02 +0000 "You've obviously never been to a Millwall match" Hmmm, Millwall away is one thing, but being an away fan at Millwall is something else. Been a few times with Notts Forest (Division 2 Champs 2004/2005) and it is a nightmare after the game, win, lose or draw. Locked in for an hour or two, then the Police try to escort everyone up to London Bridge station (3 miles), when my car is parked just around the corner. Why? Because the Millwall "fans" are animals. They skulk around on the streets afterwards like packs of rabid dogs, and it's the away fans that get treated like shit. From: DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 17:07:28 EST "I don't know anything about that incident, but those things (police incompetence, poor ticket allocation and high fences) don't cause people to riot unless those people are already inclined toward violence." The problem at Hillsborough that day was bad (criminal even) event mangement, allowing too many fans into one end of the ground causing a crush on the terrace due to the high fence pitch-side. The police pitch-side assumed it was hooligan trouble and did bugger all for some time, while 90 odd people crushed to death. It's true that the fence was there (and in every other ground) due to a history of crowd trouble, but the police reaction was due to an assumption that it was crowd trouble. Any police officer standing within yards of children dying is incompetent...at best. From: Green, Laurence <Laurence.Green @ carillionwsp.com> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 08:38:06 -0000 "I've thought of another, Poker in 'Heart On The Line' - win some, lose some, that's the way I play the hand I get, no sense in getting sore." Hmmm? Isn't that the metaphor that Mr. King (or whoever wrote it for him) was reaching for when signing it? Life is a bit like poker, a game of cards, chance etc. Loz, you're at it again. Stop nicking other peoples ideas. It's not big, and it's not clever.

5. The Elementary Particles
From:	jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 5 Feb 2004 06:47:48 -0800 (PST)	[top]
Can't we just go back to the pre-stigmata Loz? The Loz that (seemingly) never even tried to be funny? The Loz that just ran around in verbal circles, spouting the same thing? I pray to thee, j(ay) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

6. (no subject specified)
From:	Green, Laurence <Laurence.Green @ carillionwsp.com>
Date:	Thu, 5 Feb 2004 15:51:05 -0000	[top]
>There are barely two countries in Europe that can't find some historical animosity Hmmm, fair point, but that got me thinking – can anyone think of a military conflict between two liberal democracies anywhere? I’m not sure I can. Hmm, old men with their protocol who are not respectively leaders of liberal democracies lead us off to war methinks. L()Z Laurence Green Structures Engineer CarillionWSP 0114 2942553

7. Radio and VCD's
From:	Dave Webster <dwebster @ wight365.net>
Date:	Thu, 5 Feb 2004 16:53:13 -0000	[top]
Hi y'all I read on a recent digest that Mike Lindup had done some radio interviews, BBC radio 2 I think. PLus there was a VCD floating around of videos from the Guarenteed/Forever now era. If possible, can anyone point me in the direction of the web site with the radio interviews please. Also, can anyone tell me what I can play a VCD on and where to get this above mentioned VCD please. Also, I am interested in getting hold of a few 'FAN' produced albums, again if anyone can help I'd be very grateful. Please e mail me if you can help with any of the above. Thanks Dave P.S. Drum stop very bad, very bad!!!!!

8. The inexpense of golf
From:	DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com>
Date:	Thu, 5 Feb 2004 14:29:56 EST	[top]
> On the sports front, I like hockey and golf, probably the two most > expensive sports to partake in. Nah, I'm a golfer myself, and I can't touch my neighbors two doors over for expensive sports. They have a top-fuel dragster, which they haul to Rockingham in a custom race-team trailer on weekends! I'm glad to have them, though, because when they start that engine, my home studio is no longer the loudest noisemaker in the 'hood. Yes, I live in the heart of redneck racing country (NASCAR, and such). On the other hand, we also have more golf courses than most other places on earth. :o) Z.

9. (no subject specified)
From:	tazbad <tazbad @ madasafish.com>
Date:	Thu, 5 Feb 2004 20:04:06 -0000	[top]
http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/history/index.shtm

10. Mute Witness
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Andrew=20Goodwin?= <thenightfly83 @ yahoo.co.uk>
Date:	Thu, 5 Feb 2004 23:00:19 +0000 (GMT)	[top]
>2. That blue flicker doesn't comfort me >From: alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca <alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca> > >It seems unlikely that the worlds' best-loved game of football will ever be popular in North America for the simple reason that you can't properly televise it with commercial breaks every seven or eight minutes This is a source of enormous comfort to me, actually. When the World Cup was awarded to the USA in 1994 I was far from the only one concerned about the implications if it gained popularity. But your national indifference to the beautiful game does you credit, America! Stick to international diplomacy. >3. Sports >From: n < > >As for me, I'd rather be out slinging a sword somewhere. I'm learning the fine art of swordplay Nathania, you can grip my weapon any time. Sincerely Benny Hill >4. You've obviously never been to a Millwall match >From: Ian Lovell <ian_lovell @ msn.com> Millwall. Londoners. Missing link. Enough said. >6. Cardio-vascular hooliganism >From: David Cousins <davidcousins @ hot.ee> > >David (usually a member of the much maligned Digest 'silent majority') Personally I only malign the silent majority when one of their number stands up and complains that "This Digest isn't exactly what I want it to be" (even though they're unwilling to contribute anything to it themselves), and in so doing claims to speak on behalf of countless others who also can't be bothered to address the issue. You don't fall into either category and can thus consider yourself unmaligned – and I speak on behalf of everybody in Western Europe when I say that. >7. Soccer violence >From: DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com> > >I don't know anything about that incident, but those things (police incompetence, poor ticket allocation and high fences) don't cause people to riot unless those people are already inclined toward violence. But, as I'm sure others will point out, Hillsborough wasn't a riot. 96 people were crushed to death because too many people were allowed into the ground. Nobody fought anybody at any stage. To include footage of Hillsborough in a programme called ‘When Crowds Go Mad’ is as inaccurate as it is spectacularly tasteless. >8. "Soccer" >From: Anselm Gaynor <anselm_gaynor @ btinternet.com> > >Football is a common term for ‘Associated Football’. Soccer is what Americans call it. Well, maybe we should start calling it soccer in deference to the long history of American football. After all, this last Superbowl was number 38, and the FA Cup has only been going since, er, 1876. >10. More Level sports >From: Green, Laurence <Laurence.Green @ carillionwsp.com> > >Nothing – REALLY. Something upon which we can agree at last. AG ___________________________________________________________ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk

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