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Topics for Wednesday, June 18, 2003

    1.  42 - Fatboymike344588 @ aol.com
    2.  care-ing and other hollow verbs - jt
    3.  Everyone Must Nitpick - alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca
    4.  Lisa Harding's group at Sherwood Forest! - keith ashley
    5.  On A Level CD - Richard Maybury
    6.  The Fan - Andrew Goodwin
    7.  + WEB DIGEST SUMMARY - Level 42 Digest
    8.  + MARKETPLACE - Level 42 Digest

1.  42
From: Fatboymike344588 @ aol.com <Fatboymike344588 @ aol.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:21:24 EDT
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I read in Variety magazine, Spylass Pictures is set to start production on a movie version of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

2.  care-ing and other hollow verbs
From: jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:39:01 -0700 (PDT)
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-Stephen Wright
>No surprises as far as the set was concerned, __but
>who cares__!

Well, as several have estimated that the turnout was a
mere 300 people, -and this was a gig that was fairly
easy to get to for a great deal of people-, the simple
answer to your obviously-not-really-a-question is:
about anyone with the word “redundant” and/or
“superfluous” in their vocabulary; those that attend
concerts for the music (as this was, pretty clearly,
an ‘event’/gathering thing and not just a concert to
several attending); those that don’t find stimulation
within the confines of “more of the same” etc etc.
Essentially: non-“true fans”, I guess.

To “Mr”. Keith Ashley, I bloody loved your disclaimer,
and I hope to see it after every one of your posts,
best thing I’ve read since Travis’ last post and the
absurd fact that non-children are "eagerly awaiting" a
new harry potter book.

I can't comment on the Steely Dan talk, as the album
before this one did not-a-thing for me (granted I did
just hear bits) and have no interest in hearing this
one.
But don't worry, Don, a Grammy could well be within
reach, surely none of your critiques and comments
toward the new album circumferenced the complete
vapidity of, say, Norah Jones (or just about anything
else that wins a grammy)...

and roll the Yahoo! commercials...
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3.  Everyone Must Nitpick
From: alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca <alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca>
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:25:31 -0400
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Just a few wee thoughts on Steely Dan's _Everything Must Go_.

"The Last Mall"
Nice understated drum groove. Polyrhythms that call no attention to the
playing.

"Things I Miss the Most"
Is she dead (the "ghost" reference), or did she divorce our narrator? And
could she play that '54 Strat?

"Blues Beach"
Nice perky little number. Is this the single?

"Godwhacker"
Killer groove. Freakin' killer drums! Kieth Carlock has groove oozing
from every pore on this one. Check out those ghost snare hits all over the
place. It takes serious engineering to bring that subtle clarity to the
final mix.

"Slang of Ages"
Er, who let Becker at the mic? The man practically raps his way through
this one. But that's okay; we've got the backup singers to hit actual
notes.

"Green Book"
Almost a boogaloo groove happening, which is very unusual for these guys.

"Pixeleen"
Lyrical stab at linguistic pop culture. Not a highlight, but it doesn't
suck. Fagan tries falsetto? Good luck with that bit live!

"Lunch with Gina"
Hands-down winner for hilarity. "So I'm nailed to the floor in the
no-option zone / there's about zero chance she'll give up and go home." If
that rings a bell with anybody other than me, you have my sympathy. And if
a keyboard solo can be comedic, this one is. My second favourite, right
after "Godwhacker."

"Everything Must Go"
Fabulous intro flailing: it's an ending at the beginning. Does that mean
something? Airy production as always. Also, check out the vocal harmonies
at 4:23. Brings chills to me spine!

Overall, their decision to stick with real instruments for the most part
will serve them well in the long run. Horns and pianos: those don't get
dated. Give a listen to Michael Jackson's _Thriller_ if you want to hear
how big a mistake it can be to use sounds tied to a particular era.

Becker's incessant guitar noodling isn't my favourite feature on the album,
but it's part of the Dan sound and lends an additional level of cohesion to
the set.

And that's only from listening on my ancient discman at work. Haven't even
heard it cranked on a good system yet. I recommend this album to all.

  ...Alex...

P.S. If anybody quotes me for any reason whatsoever, my attorney will have
your head on a stick! 'Cause you're just not funny, dang it all to heck!

4.  Lisa Harding's group at Sherwood Forest!
From: keith ashley <keith_stuart2 @ hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:06:03 +0000
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Who was the girl i was standing next to at the Sherwood Forest concert?

i was right at the front just left of the center.she was having a picnic
before the start with her friends and she offered me a spicy Dorito,i kept
standing on her blanket.
I think she could have been part of the Mrs Pink group,also one of you had a
camera.
I was the guy to the left of you all with blonde hair.

I must admit you are all as raving mad as me, you really made it a great
night standing next to you all.I hope your going to the Manchester concert i
will say hello to you all if you are.

Also we stopped behind to speak to Lydon at the end of the night,what a
nice bloke he is, he even tried to get us one of Gary Husbands drum
sticks(because we pestered him for one).

Look forward to seeing you guys later in the year.

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5.  On A Level CD
From: Richard Maybury <rsmaybury @ tiscali.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:23:15 +0100
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I believe the distortion has something to do with the type of CD used. When this was released , CDs had only been around a short time and the material used on these CDs does distort and warp over time.....
 
Kansas City Milkman
 
 


6.  The Fan
From: Andrew Goodwin <nightfly83 @ hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:22:12 +0100
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>6. New Dan
>From: Colin Gupta < thegoop @ sympatico.ca>
>
>It seems Andrew takes exception to any SD objection.

Really? On what evidence is this statement made? As one who has consistently
railed against the juvenile ‘you’re not a Level 42 fan if you don’t love
everything they ever did’ movement which some of the less lucid members of
our disparate community propagate, I’d be offended if I could get the energy
together. For the record, I actually left a Steely Dan equivalent of this
Digest because I couldn’t stomach the slavering adherence to everything they
did, the nadir coming when the proprietor of the list went into a sulk
because several people agreed with my indictment of Alive In America as a
largely worthless release. [And let me take this opportunity to state loud
and clear how fortunate this Digest is to have in Eric a host intelligent
and altruistic enough to provide a forum where disharmony is a virtue.] Case
in point, you sing the praises of the song ‘Aja’, which along with ‘Deacon
Blues’ I find entirely too vague and self-indulgent, and in Steely Dan
circles that’s pretty close to heresy.

>Come on Andrew. Are you telling us The Last Mall, which is very IGYish is
>better than most of the material on 2AN?

As it happens no, and nothing I’ve posted suggests I would say that. Better
than about half of it maybe (if it surprises you that I find something which
is reminiscent of IGY agreeable, take a brief look at my e-mail address.)
‘Godwhacker’ and ‘Lunch With Gina’ on the other hand are richer, more
vivacious and more imaginative than anything on 2AN. EMG has the sound of an
album made by men with renewed enthusiasm for the art of the straight ahead
song. It rips through its nine tracks in 42 minutes, only two of them coming
in over five minutes in length. There are none of the longueurs which dogged
every album after Katy Lied. My main astonishment at Don’s original post was
that he suggested EMG sounded like they were ready to give up the ghost,
when my own listening experience had been diametrically and euphorically in
discord with that.

Two Against Nature is a superb album by any standards. It was astonishing
that after so long they were able to produce an album of that quality, and
more to the point it cemented their style as timeless. But EMG promises to
be a great album by Steely Dan standards. It has wit and verve which Two
Against Nature doesn’t, right from the false ending of The Last Mall to the
mischievous lyric of the sublime Everything Must Go (and a bonus SD
spotter’s badge to the first person to name whence EMG nicked part of its
chord sequence). Most of the criticism of EMG I’ve read seems to be aimed at
the instrumentation, the lack of flashy playing. Such criticism misses the
point. Steely Dan albums were peopled by great session men to facilitate the
best delivery of the songs, not to foment opportunities for extravagant
soloing or musical showmanship. If Becker and Fagen were just interested in
showcasing talented players they’d be making jazz records, not shaping their
own unique body of work. It’s all about the songs. It’s always been about
the songs. And this is why EMG is such a great album, because the quality of
the composition is as high as it’s been since maybe Pretzel Logic. Certainly
I could live without some of Walter Becker’s rather indeterminate lead
guitar noodling, and I’m amazed that after 11 Tracks Of Whack nothing
statutory was implemented to ensure Becker never took a lead vocal again;
but if these quibbles are what it takes to get them producing albums inside
18 months, and to have those albums full of such vibrant and engaging
songwriting, then bring it on.

But hey, it’s just my opinion, and what do I know? I’m not a musicologist.
Each to their own, life’s too short, choose your own banal platitude.

AG

PS Wasn’t, by coincidence, the ‘handlebar moustache guitarist from the
Doobies’ to whom you refer Jeff Baxter? Or did I dream that?

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7.  + WEB DIGEST SUMMARY
From: Level 42 Digest <level42-admin @ worldmachine.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 04:30:09 -0400
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Don't miss a Level beat! The following is a list of messages posted to the Level 42 WEB Digest over the last day (not including off-topic and admin boards). Click on a heading to get the full content for any board or topic. Questions about this mailing list related service? Email us at level42-admin @ worldmachine . com. Have fun!


 General Discussion
       3 new -- Best Level 42 track starting with the letter "S" 1
  by Ronald, Lisa_D, kamshaftreesycup
       3 new -- Best Level 42 track starting with the letter "S" 2
  by Ronald, Fiona., martin_goddard
       1 new -- Children Say - The Charity
  by Bassgirl
       11 new -- Gary Husband
  by Lazlar Lyricon, Star_child, Thunder on a Yamaha RTC, moby_matt, Robbie, Sharmin H, SteveR, kamshaftreesycup, Lisa_D, Troels
       1 new -- Getting younger as they get older!
  by bob_the_bassman
       3 new -- How did you get into Level 42?
  by Paul_Richards, DJ Dollman, Lioness
       3 new -- New VST instrument feat. Phil Gould :-)
  by SteveR, moby_matt
       1 new -- Phils "A Road Less Traveled"
  by ClydeCrashcup
       1 new -- Sherwood Pics a la Mrs Pink!
  by Sharmin H
       3 new -- Sherwood gig.........Fanf****ingtastic!
  by Bassgirl, Sharmin H
       3 new -- Weakest studio album - which & why?
  by sneddoc, 42Anselm, ehansen42
       1 new -- level 42 quotes
  by Fandango
       2 new -- open air gig poll
  by Mondo, york42
 Buy, Sell & Trade
       1 new -- where can I buy 'Greatest Hits Live'?
  by Bjorn42
       1 new -- Looking for L42 Live Recordings - Late 80's
  by Alekhine
       2 new -- level 42 live @ the town & country club
  by krazypaul, Mrs Pink
 Musicians' Lounge
       1 new -- EBS!
  by Lazlar Lyricon
       1 new -- For Drummers only (My gear)
  by Thunder on a Yamaha RTC

Author Summary

3 messages:
     Bassgirl, Sharmin H, SteveR, Thunder on a Yamaha RTC
2 messages:
     kamshaftreesycup, Lazlar Lyricon, Ronald, Lisa_D, moby_matt
1 messages:
     ClydeCrashcup, Lioness, sneddoc, martin_goddard, Fandango, DJ Dollman, 42Anselm, Bjorn42, Fiona., krazypaul, Alekhine, bob_the_bassman, Paul_Richards, Mrs Pink, Robbie, Troels, york42, Star_child, Mondo, ehansen42

8.  + MARKETPLACE
From: Level 42 Digest <level42-admin @ worldmachine.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 04:48:05 -0400
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