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Wednesday, January 22, 2003 |
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| Today's Topics 1 - Could it be.......... - Tom Brown 2 - Segregate the Madness or Playing the Same Thing Every Night is "Fun" - jt 3 - Wally Badarou stuff - Lars-Ove Larsson 4 - Re: Wally Badarou - Lars-Ove Karlsson 5 - dreams and visions covers - Winston Walker 6 - 5th Beatle?! - Mr David F Jacobs 7 - live aid - sorry Mike - Jeoff42 @ aol.com 8 - Phil & Boon brothers - Laurence Green 9 - Gold Discs - Laurence Green 10 - fave albums - Eric Johnson 11 - Back To Normal - Brian Flint 12 - SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU DIE HARD LEVEL 42 FANS (FUN) - Dannymkavanagh @ aol.com 13 - Micro Kid Live - David Buddy 14 - Re: Eric's faves - AltoforHire @ aol.com 15 - Re: Wally Badarou - AltoforHire @ aol.com 16 - level 42 - Murrihyfam @ aol.com 17 - Ex-MK basses/fave album - DonZipf @ aol.com 18 - Re: Lax - mikethepom 19 - The People vs Larry Flynt - Andrew Goodwin 20 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE for 1/22/2003 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE |
| 1 - Could it be.......... |
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| From: | Tom Brown <tbrown @ britishsugar.co.uk> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:38:58 +0000 |
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>>> Now, for the bonus round, Dannymkavanagh and EMIKATIE will go head to head in the race to identify the scene and the character from the movie! The clock is ticking. >>> Something involving the French on a castle and a giant rabbit? Curses, just realised that I'm not allowed to answer, hey ho! Stuart wrote : >>> I've been trying to print off a copy of the cover from Carl's Forevernow.com site however it appears to be sized for a video box instead of a CD case - am I just being plane thick or can someone help me out here !! >>> At a guess, it's sized for a DVD box. And no, I don't think you are, I can't tell a Boeing from a Cessna either. Damnation, just noticed that I started that last sentence with the word "And" surely AG fodder like a lamb to the slaughter. As the lone Lemming said "I'm my own worst enemy". -T ________________________________________________________________ The views expressed in this e-mail are the views of the individual and may not reflect the views of the organisation. British Sugar accepts no liability for any losses or damages arising from reliance on the information contained in this e-mail. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential, may be legally privileged and is intended solely for use by the individual or organisation to whom it is addressed. E-mail information is subject to copyright and must not be used, disseminated, copied or disclosed to third parties without the written consent of British Sugar. If you are not the intended recipient you should delete this e-mail, destroy all copies and inform the Webmaster www.bswebmaster @ britishsugar.co.uk Copyright British Sugar plc All Rights Reserved Registered Office: Weston Centre, Bowater House, 68 Knightsbridge. London SW1X 7LQ. A limited company registered in England 315158 | ||
| 2 - Segregate the Madness or Playing the Same Thing Every Night is "Fun" |
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| From: | jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 05:04:17 -0800 (PST) |
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| >all these and more > are available for those with hours to spare to > download page upon page. Or, they are all nicely divisioned for those that _dont'_ have "hours" to sift through things they dont care about (monty py quotes, incog tour dates, etc) and etc. In reality there are only one or two threads ever worth reading (if any), but yes, some do seem to have an enourmous amount of time coupled with weird need to comment on every damn thing. Like here. > Maybe if each user had been limited to a maximum of > three postings a day, > that might have made people think slightly longer > about what they were > saying before the Post button was hit. Would be nice, but I think this is well beyond hope. People will always think that others actually want to hear their little uninformed/unstructured opinions or virtual shouts, and even nonsense like what I'm writing right now (!) > > The Laminated Set List is: OK, what do you mean > "laminated"? The set list never changed. Instead of a creative spark in the air with MK writing out a different set, at least occasionaly (lots o' material to choose from), he had the list preserved in plastic... j __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com | ||
| 3 - Wally Badarou stuff |
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| From: | Lars-Ove Larsson <lazlar @ home.se> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 14:20:34 +0100 |
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Regarding Chris L.
question on Wally Badarou stuff:
I have the S/T to
Kiss of the spider woman on cassette. I haven't been
able to get it on cd. Wally is credited for writing/performing 4 tracks
Molina's Fantasies, Novela Das
Nove, Pavilhão IV and The
Call.
I also have the
So Why cd (I managed to have it sent to me free of
charge by a very nice lady at the Red
Cross in Switzerland who was involved in the So Why project). Wally produced
and composed the title track (featured in three mixes on the cd), did the
programming and sang in the choir. Apart from this song there are also a few
songs Wally didn't contribute to which are nice if you are into African
music.
He also has a cd out
called Colors of Silence - Musical Poetry for Yoga,
which is like a cross of Echoes and Words.
I don't have the
Countryman S/T or Back To Scales
Tonight.
Another weird thing
I have is the promo CD Video for Hi Life which
features the extended versions of Hi Life, Chief Inspector and Mambo along
with the video for Hi Life. The original
versions are on the Echoes cd. I haven't been
able to see the Hi Life video since I don't
have a laserdisc player.
Lars
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| 4 - Re: Wally Badarou |
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| From: | Lars-Ove Karlsson <love @ iar.se> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 14:39:37 +0100 |
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> A while back on the original Digest, there was talk of someone burning the two non-CD releases > by Wally Badarou (BACK TO SCALES TONIGHT and CHIEF INSPECTOR) onto CD. Did anything ever come > of this? Also, aside from his two solo albums (ECHOES, WORDS OF A MOUNTAIN), the KISS OF THE > SPIDER WOMAN & COUNTRYMAN soundtracks, and the SO WHY project (credited to Wally Badarou & > friends), have there been any other solo albums or release where he's the primary > musician? BTW, if anyone has the SO WHY album, could you tell me if he actually performed on > the disc? On a webpage I found for the disc > (http://www.icrc.org/Web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/iwpList75/644CDEA605D33696C1256B66005AD038), he's > credited as "the artistic director" but not as a performing musician. I'm not really inclined > to shell out money for an import title if he doesn't perform on it. And just to be complete, > does anyone have the S/T's for KISS OF... or COUNTRYMAN? Chris L. As far as I remember, he only played on the three mixes of the title track on So Why. He's also released a solo album, Colors Of Silence, a year or so ago. I too would like to have the Chief Inspector EP on CD. He also have a few tracks on the soundtrack to They Call It An Accident from 1982. Is Kiss Of The Spider Woman soundtrack available on CD? I'd really like to replace my LP. /Love e-mail: love @ iar.se --- Since you've been gone Well, I feel like I've been chewing on tinfoil Since you've been gone It's like I've got a great big mouhtful of cod liver oil Weird Al Yankovic - Since You've Been Gone | ||
| 5 - dreams and visions covers |
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| From: | Winston Walker <winman42 @ comcast.net> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 08:57:02 -0500 |
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| Stu, you are correct..the cover for dreams and visions is sized for a DVD case, since this is a VIDEO project, and not a regular 'music' compact disc. Win | ||
| 6 - 5th Beatle?! |
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| From: | Mr David F Jacobs <man_of_funk @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:35:36 -0000 |
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Mr Goodwin
I must correct you on your incorrect assumption
that MK was infact, the 5th Beatle. This has been argued for some time
now, as well as the most recent debates that he is in fact the ex bass player
for Duran Duran, who played on the Live Aid single. The latter was clearly
correct, you can see it on the documentary - Mark obviously has chamelion like
qualities, and annoyed he was not invited, sent Mr Taylor on a wild goose
chase, nicked his Aria bass and did the session. This leads me to my final
assumption.
MK is in fact Terminator 2. This is the only
explanation for how he could have been the 5th Beatle, emulate Mr Taylor from
Duran, and also morph to his present state and live parellel musical careers,
whilst transcending time and space. It's simple see, that's why he's such
a good bass player - he's probably been doing it before the invention of the
Fender bass. Oh since he played Fenders for a while, perhaps this was a
hint as to a previous incarnation....Leo Fender! Only Mark can confirm
this of course, but since some people are absolutely convinced he played on the
Live Aid single, it can only mean one thing!
(This is a joke for those who have had a humour bypass, or work in IT) ;)
Best regards
Dave | ||
| 7 - live aid - sorry Mike |
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| From: | Jeoff42 @ aol.com <Jeoff42 @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:27:39 EST |
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| Mike I can confirm - I saw the programme 'liquid News' on BBC choice a few weeks ago and Mark King did say that Level 42 were initially invited to Live Aid then 'slipped down the ladder'. I have this very recent show taped. I am not sure who posted it a few weeks ago but he/she is right and therefore their plonkerness is unfounded. Hello everyone on the digest. I don't say much normally but best wishes anyway. Jeoff | ||
| 8 - Phil & Boon brothers |
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| From: | Laurence Green <laurence.green @ scottwilson.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:20:41 -0000 |
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>>>Phil and Boon were brothers. >>>Did they stop being brothers? That's kinda cool... I think you missed something here. Churchill was very good at this; = where, inconspicuously, a single word in a sentence, which would = normally make the sentence mean one thing, is actually, upon closer = inspection, intended to be ascribed a different, acceptable meaning for = that word, which changes the meaning of the sentence. (There's a fancy = word for it). In this case, 'brothers' is not intended in the = biological/sibling sense. L()Z Visit our web site at www.scottwilson.com Privilege and Confidentiality Notice. This e-mail and any attachments to it are intended only for the party to whom they are addressed. They may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete any digital copies and destroy any paper copies. Thank you. Scott Wilson Kirkpatrick & Co Ltd Registered in London: No. 880328 Registered office: Scott House, Basing View, Basingstoke, Hampshire, RG21 4JG. UK. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. | ||
| 9 - Gold Discs |
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| From: | Laurence Green <laurence.green @ scottwilson.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:27:38 -0000 |
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| I'd be careful with Gold Discs. Anyone who collects record collector will know that you can pay 20/30 pounds to have any disc you like made into a gold disc. I have a gold disc which has very good provenance - but I'm surprised this one is at £100 - just looking at it - it looks dodgy. There are no records whatsoever of silver/sold/platinum discs issues, the only thing you can go on is provenance. For singles and album sold in the UK, US, Canada, Japan, Holland, Germany etc silver gold and platinum discs were made for singles selling over 50,000 copies and albums a similar amount - often one would be made for the group and one for each individual member. Sometimes several extra would me made for the manager - record execs. Let's say 8 major countries 15 singles and 12 albums 8 * (15+12) * 6 * 2 = (approx) 2500 (*2 for silver then gold then platinum) That's a lot of discs. I suspect (irregardless of my calculations) there were actually around 1000 Level 42 'precious metal' discs made and 500 promotional framed items other than silver/gold/platinum discs. L()Z Visit our web site at www.scottwilson.com Privilege and Confidentiality Notice. This e-mail and any attachments to it are intended only for the party to whom they are addressed. They may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete any digital copies and destroy any paper copies. Thank you. Scott Wilson Kirkpatrick & Co Ltd Registered in London: No. 880328 Registered office: Scott House, Basing View, Basingstoke, Hampshire, RG21 4JG. UK. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. | ||
| 10 - fave albums |
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| From: | Eric Johnson <pgi1 @ frontpanels.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:26:22 -0500 |
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Danny wrote:
I thought it would be interesting to open a debate/thread on this to
find out
peoples' fave Level 42 album. They released alot of albums in a
15 year period and
I think it would be interesting to see the results and
opinions.
Personally my fave is 'Level 42' You just cannot beat the sound of 'Love Games' and 'Starchild' when they first came out. Brit Jazz/Funk was just
exploding on the scene
and Level 42 led the way. As a 16 yr old at the time it just blew
me away.
I agree that the three albums: Level 42, SITL and True Colors are
great but I have no favorites. I usually think of all their albums as 'Before
World Machine' or 'World Machine and On'. Seems to me the real big fans (self-described 'True' fans) of Level 42 all like the Before World Machine stuff
the most. The earlier stuff , I think,has the best jams and is less
polished(which I like). I can appreciate The later stuff which has some slick
songwriting but is very polished (maybe over polished) To the point where some
of the songs become bland.
However, There are songs on Guaranteed and Forever Now which I think are
quite good.
I have no favorite but I never hear too many call the Early Tapes
their fave which is one of my favorites.
How bout this for a topic:
Least Favorite Song
The Chant Has Begun comes to mind. | ||
| 11 - Back To Normal |
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| From: | Brian Flint <wolfbard @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:25:29 +0000 |
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>>>>>Friesen Wrote: Oh please! Waaaaaaay too easy: The parrot sketch.<<<< But my point is that everyone and his brother has seen The Grail. It's like asking what's your favorite L42 song and they reply Something About You. I'll forgive you this time, but in the future, please stop aiming for the lowest common denominator. >>>>>Monique Wrote: is it just me or has everyone had enough of the aid debate<<<<<< Congratulations, you are the first person on this updated forum to complain about the what we are talking about. Your reward is to be first in line to sign up for whatever new format is create based on the wankers. My favoritist album of all time would have to be "A Physical Presence 1 and 2" In my opinion there is nothing better than L42 live. But if you cry foul because they are all songs off of other albums, then I will choose my second favoritist. Live at Wembley....ha ha JK Based on the frequency that I listen to each Album, I would have to say Forever Now. DOn't know why, it just is. Andrew I left some things in there for you to correct. Bri _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail | ||
| 12 - SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU DIE HARD LEVEL 42 FANS (FUN) |
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| From: | Dannymkavanagh @ aol.com <Dannymkavanagh @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 14:19:49 EST |
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| Ok then get your thinking caps on. Here are your 5 questions. Answer them in the forum and I will mark your 'exam papers' accordingly! Q1. In what band did Phil and Boon Gould play in immediately prior to Level 42? Q2. In what band did Mark King play in immediately prior to Level 42? Q3. What instrument did he play? Q4. Which member of Level 42 had a top 20 No1 hit in the 1970's? Q5. What was the name of the band and title of the record? I await your answers with bated breath! Enjoy Regards Danny | ||
| 13 - Micro Kid Live |
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| From: | David Buddy <davidbuddy @ blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:30:30 -0000 |
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Hi Folks,
You were correct in saying that Micro Kid Live was on the B-Side of To Be With You Again! But although it said it was contained on the Live at Wembley Video it was not. I know cos I bought the video and got a wee bit annoyed that it wasn’t!
So, if anyone has a copy of the full version Live, cos the single was edited and faded out, can I have a copy please, please, please? I can trade if I’ve got something anyone particularly wants.
Thanks in anticipation folks, Davy
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| 14 - Re: Eric's faves |
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| From: | AltoforHire @ aol.com <AltoforHire @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:18:53 EST |
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In a message dated 1/21/2003 5:05:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, level42 @ worldmachine.com writes:and my own most favorite El Debarge rip-off, People. What do you mean by this, Eric? What song by Debarge does it "rip off?" Angel Girl in 204 | ||
| 15 - Re: Wally Badarou |
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| From: | AltoforHire @ aol.com <AltoforHire @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:32:25 EST |
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In a message dated 1/21/2003 5:05:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, Chris L. writes:And just to be complete, does anyone have the S/T's for KISS OF I have the Kiss of the Spiderwoman Soundtrack on vinyl. He only did four tracks on it, one of which was Novela das Nove, which I think was on the Chief Inspector album. Angel Girl in 204 | ||
| 16 - level 42 |
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| From: | Murrihyfam @ aol.com <Murrihyfam @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:19:03 EST |
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its interesting, level 42 is definately the best album...but there seems to be one track per album that is awesome kansas city milkman leaving me now the sunbed song she cant help herself u cant blame louis etc etc...(not in order obviously) there just a great band it seems they do a single on an album and then an awesome song for fans like us...perhaps we are sad cheers paul | ||
| 17 - Ex-MK basses/fave album |
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| From: | DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 23:35:28 EST |
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| > Maybe this one is just for Morgan ; > I wondered if you prefer one of 'ex MK basses and why ? ( do you play > them or just look ?) Just for Morgan? Harumph!! There are quite a few of us who own ex-MK basses. I have the Moon jazz that Mark de-fretted for "Seven Years" (subsequently re-fretted by the Bass Centre). It's a fantastic bass, which I practice with frequently, even though I own a GB as well.. Of course, even with its Alembic electronics it doesn't sound nearly as cool as the GB, but for practicing alone, it has a really great feel and vibe which I find inspires me to experiment. See it, hear it, and read the story at... http://members.aol.com/donworld/moon1.html On to the favorite album question, World Machine has always been my pick. To me, it represents the best balance between jazzy, funky, and just plain great pop songs. Level 42 would be my next choice for its jazzfunk feel, and Forever Now (Resurgence) third, for its sophisticated pop. Peace - Z. | ||
| 18 - Re: Lax |
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| From: | mikethepom <mikethepom @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:10:21 -0800 (PST) |
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| >> is it just me or has everyone had enough of the aid debate.i think everyone knows by now the deal. << It's just you. Everyone doesn't know the deal, that's the whole point of debating it and the reason I raised it in the first place ... Fave albums ... ah that old chestnut ... for me, the quintessential Level 42 album will always be Standing In The Light (not a big fan of acronyms). I think it's a lot to do with where you were at the time ... I was staying at a campsite at Antibes in the south of France. I'll always remember singing along to Out Of Sight on the tour bus p.a. and persuading the local DJ, instead of playing Relax for the 17th time, to try The Sun Goes Down ... the crowd loved it and we were instant heroes! Cheers ~ Mike (Sydney City Milkman) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com | ||
| 19 - The People vs Larry Flynt |
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| From: | Andrew Goodwin <nightfly83 @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:11:10 +0000 |
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| >1 - re: fave albums >From: Eric J. Hansen <ehansen @ worldmachine.com> > >Standing In The Light progresses further into the 80's funk arena with >slick studio production courtesy of Dunn & White, and gave us Micro Kid, >SITL, and my own most favorite El Debarge rip-off, People. Hmm. Are you sure People isn't the worst song ever written by anybody at any time in history? Facile, sentimental pap, a lyric which makes me cringe even 20 years on. In one of his more urbane moments Cole Porter might have got away with rhyming reasonable and seasonable, but Mike Lindup in the middle of a twee plea for peace and love? No? Sorry, my mistake. >True Colors contains perhaps my all-time-favorite Level 42 tracks, Kansas >City Milkman (killer bassline), the funky True Believers OK, let you off. True Believers is one of the best of the entire catalogue. >10 - Gary Husband Trio >From: Pete Willis <peteburywillis @ hotmail.com> > >Wouldn't normally sit down and listen to Jazz but certainly have had my >ears opened up to some great music tonight. Ah, welcome aboard Pete. There’s no turning back now. AG _________________________________________________________________ Chat online in real time with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk | ||
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