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Tuesday, March 04, 2003 |
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| Topics for Tuesday, March 04, 2003 1 - And the rant goes on... - Sean D. Green 2 - Assumption - rob.a32 3 - Something about you Video - Steve Randall 4 - Forever Now - dean.osborn @ bt.com 5 - Fair Play - Steve Randall 6 - Switching to Glide - EMIKATIE @ aol.com 7 - I should clean more often.... - Michael Payne 8 - Out of Sight Out Of Mind - Norwood, Jennifer 9 - POP music - Dan Nesselroth 10 - jt again - Pete Willis 11 - John Mayer - DonZipf @ aol.com 12 - Something About You video - Colinsladden @ aol.com 13 - FAT TUESDAY - Monique Williams 14 - Comfort and Joy - Laurence Green 15 - straight from the department of Psychiatrische - jt 16 - Simply Red - Pete Willis 17 - credit - AltoforHire @ aol.com 18 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE for 3/4/2003 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE |
| 1 - And the rant goes on... |
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| From: | Sean D. Green <seandgreen @ earthlink.net> |
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| Date: | Mon, 03 Mar 2003 05:54:35 -0600 |
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| You know, sometimes I feel a hint of "J. Parrington's Ghost" out there in some of these digests. -= Did I type that out loud? To each, his/her own I suppose. ~S | ||
| 2 - Assumption |
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| From: | rob.a32 <rob.a32 @ ntlworld.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:21:12 -0000 |
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Paul Scarratt wrote:
>Remember, to ASSUME makes an ASS out of
U.<
Actually Paul, to 'assume' makes an 'ass' out of 'u' AND 'me' is the
correct phrase! You don't escape inclusion I'm afraid - and I'll just have to be
the 'smart-ass' for pointing it out.
Oh well ...... ;) | ||
| 3 - Something about you Video |
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| From: | Steve Randall <Steve.Randall @ mouchel.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:54:48 +0100 |
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| It was decided after great debate on the digest long ago, that Mark says "See you in the bar" The information in this e-mail is confidential and intended to be solely for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain copyright and/or legally privileged information. If you are not the addressee (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee) please e-mail us at postmaster @ mouchel.com and delete the message from your computer; copying, distribution, use or disclosure of its contents is strictly prohibited. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption no responsibility is accepted for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice contained in any e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. In addition, no liability or responsibility is accepted for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Please note that for business purposes, outgoing and incoming emails from and to the company may be monitored and recorded. Mouchel Consulting Ltd, Registered Office : West Hall, Parvis Road, West Byfleet, Surrey UK KT14 6EZ Registered No : 1686040 | ||
| 4 - Forever Now |
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| From: | dean.osborn @ bt.com <dean.osborn @ bt.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:07:38 -0000 |
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| yesterday..JT wrote.... >>Um, well, you seem to forget that the whole point of a >>tune like "Forever Now" (or was this in ref to "the >>Sunbed Song"?) was to try to get into that >>mass-sucksess radio market. It's a bloody pop song!! Hardly seems fair to use FOREVER NOW as an example of the quality of Level 42's music, as this was far from being anywhere near their strongest song. Thus my points holds true, you can't compare the quality of Mark King's output to the current stuff in the charts, which is just lame glorified kareoke cover versions for the most part. Dean | ||
| 5 - Fair Play |
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| From: | Steve Randall <Steve.Randall @ mouchel.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:11:18 +0100 |
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| Good luck to Mark for using the name to get a few more bums on seats, or at least, standing up in front of them! (if you were following last weeks discussion.) He's had a string of hit's (along with the others passing through the band), and this is the only benefit, apart from the odd royalty cheque. Whether he will become a caberet band I'm not sure. The Jazz Cafe with tables and soup in the basket is step one. That would be sad as they really play dance music. A lovely quote form Phil Oakey on that interveiw a while back when he said, "We've become a Human League tribute band." Perhaps this is what's really going on with Mark. Steve Randall Note for Don Z Hi mate. I heard two of those Yamaha comercials back in the 80's and was really surprized. I can't remember if it was two different ones or the same one twice. Too slow to tape them, of course, but then it would have been sad at the time. However now - (there's a cue for a song!) interesting for posterity! The information in this e-mail is confidential and intended to be solely for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain copyright and/or legally privileged information. If you are not the addressee (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee) please e-mail us at postmaster @ mouchel.com and delete the message from your computer; copying, distribution, use or disclosure of its contents is strictly prohibited. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption no responsibility is accepted for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice contained in any e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. In addition, no liability or responsibility is accepted for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Please note that for business purposes, outgoing and incoming emails from and to the company may be monitored and recorded. Mouchel Consulting Ltd, Registered Office : West Hall, Parvis Road, West Byfleet, Surrey UK KT14 6EZ Registered No : 1686040 | ||
| 6 - Switching to Glide |
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| From: | EMIKATIE @ aol.com <EMIKATIE @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:34:23 EST |
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| I want to make sure all two or three of you understand my comment below. I'm guilty of not using a paragraph break in my rant. The "Same with John Mayer" should have been the end of the paragraph, meaning he was a breath of fresh air like Avril. (only later was I corrected and found out she was not a breath of fresh air). I like John Mayer and I think he's good. JM >Sweet little Avril was at least a breath of fresh air and I believe she either writes or >co-writes her material to boot!! Same with John Mayer. The record companies >decry lost CD sales and then put up for the world to see just how terrible the current >popular music scene is via the Grammy Award winners. | ||
| 7 - I should clean more often.... |
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| From: | Michael Payne <michael @ journeyhouse.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:19:44 -0600 |
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Well, over the weekend, with it being so very cold and snowy all week, I decided to clean out a few left over boxes that I packed years ago. I am glad that I did - as I found some great stuff that I thought I had lost or never knew that I had! I came across some LIVE versions of - A Pharoes Dream Of Endless Time, It's Not The Same For Us, Weave Your Spell - sound quality not too bad considering it is on cassette (remember them?) also - came across a ton of interviews from the 1991-1994 era, with Mark being GOD OF THE DAY on BBC Radio 1, mainly Dutch and English interviews. Also, came across cassette copies of the full demo albums -Guaranteed and Forever Now. A few more surprises were in there too, just can't remember all of them so early this Monday morning! I will find a way to get these "out there" - checking with a few webmasters to get these available - give me a few days! MIKEY | ||
| 8 - Out of Sight Out Of Mind |
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| From: | Norwood, Jennifer <jennifer.norwood @ umusic.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:26:55 -0800 |
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| ...and what is Mark saying at the very end of this song?????????????????????? "Answers on a postcard please..." | ||
| 9 - POP music |
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| From: | Dan Nesselroth <dnesselroth @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 03 Mar 2003 07:33:18 -0800 |
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Good point Don, pop stars, until very recently, actually had to PLAY an insturment. Yes, pop has always been about image but it was in addition to musical ability because synthetic and digital abilities have not always been there. Sure, there were a few "manufactured" bands out there, but at least they had real musicians backing them up on tour. Even BONEY M had musicians on stage during live shows, not 4 people dancing with nary an instrument in sight! Duran Duran were amazing musicians, especially John Taylor on bass. Thompson Twins had astounding percussion. Even "When In Rome" could play a tune. Pop today is even worse and MORE empty than it was in the past. That is quite a feat! Today pop celebrates the inarticulate (ghetto language), is over-sung (23 back up singers, every word echoed and dragged out in the vowels), and lacks the human element in insturmentation. Because of this, there is less differentation in musical style...machines will always play like machines but human groups develop unique sounds. It has become EXCLUSIVELY about style....they come on stage and it is all about the clothes and image becuase there ARE NO MUSICIANS OR INSTURMENTS ON STAGE....leaving all attention focused on the dancing. Of course, there is angry-white-kid pop too: The Offspring, Rage Against The Machine et al. At least they BRING insturments with them and PRETEND to play them. Let's face it, hitting two chords over and over is hardly musical. It's all about the image of not showering and not caring. If you keep the distortion way up, you can bury the fact that you are screwing up the octaves. There is also the HITTIN 30 pop: The Strokes, Stereolab, Yo La Tango, Belle And Sebastian....these people have even less musical ability than the angry white kid bands. Annoyingly fey, these gee-whiz melody wimps turn out music that sounds like it was recorded in a basement by someone who never learned to play a piano beyond "chopsticks" and likes to write songs about dates they had in their freshman year of college. So long as you own a pair of horn rimmed glasses, live in an urban area and work in graphic design the rest of the week, you will fit right in. Level 42 might have posed for the pics and wore the make-up (see World Machine promo pics) but they could play triplets, 140bpm, choruses, bridges, and roto toms. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 | ||
| 10 - jt again |
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| From: | Pete Willis <peteburywillis @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:38:51 -0000 |
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>I'm a professional music
> listener matey and that gives me every right... Pete, I gotta say, this is the stupidest thing I've read in some time. With that coming from the KING of stupid remarks I
find it funny. The comment was in relation to your ramblings and basically (for
want of using a better phrase!!) 'extracting the urine out of
you!!!
I did think at first you were AG having a laugh and
out to wind us up but he at least writes with some wit and intelligence even if
I don't agree with him too often.
From previous personal correspondence with him i
know he's also a decent bloke with our differences put to one side. Hence I
know it's not him!
However your ramblings remind me of the type of
bloke you meet in the pub who has an opinion on everything and a real 'know
it all' who feels they always are right.
Your then just waiting for someone to tip a pint
over their head and shut em up!!!
cheers
Pete
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| 11 - John Mayer |
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| From: | DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:21:34 EST |
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| Willem van der Veen wrote: > It is a great album ( my fav "neon") and im planning to buy the first release > of his acoustic album as well. Get it! I like Inside Wants Out even better than Room For Squares. There are some great songs on there, not found on the latter release ("Comfortable" and "Love Soon", for instance). And the acoustic versions, like "Neon", are fantastic! "She thinks I can't see the smile that she's fakin' And poses for pictures that aren't being taken." - JM Cheers - Z. | ||
| 12 - Something About You video |
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| From: | Colinsladden @ aol.com <Colinsladden @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:48:04 EST |
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| Hi All Just like to say thanks to all the people for telling me MK mouths 'we're only human after all' in the video THANK YOU Colin | ||
| 13 - FAT TUESDAY |
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| From: | Monique Williams <mowllms @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 3 Mar 2003 23:15:10 -0800 (PST) |
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| Today is Mardi Gras for us in New Orleans!A good time to get together with good friends_good food_and sharing good tymes!Sounds like a Levelfest{does-ent it}! peace all~mo __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ | ||
| 14 - Comfort and Joy |
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| From: | Laurence Green <laurence.green @ scottwilson.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 4 Mar 2003 08:48:33 -0000 |
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| Hi all, Firstly don't bid on the 'Comfort & Joy' 12" - it's not a single by Mark King. The guy selling must be confused. Secondly, I take JTs points. Having been to see Grupo Mark King / Level 42/ call it what you will - I enjoyed it / them, every time. Maybe I was just happy to hear the Level 42 covers. I think as musicians, they're most able to do the job required of them and delivered exactly what I expected, good quality Level 42 songs. Am I surprised that some people don't like them? No. Everyone has their opinion and in my opinion this current line-up is not sacred. I neither want, nor try to compare them with what I regard as Level 42 - (no more so than I would any of the original line-up plus three musicians of their choice). Whilst I don't agree with about half of what JT says on this matter, good on him. He's putting his points across. The whole point of us being here is that we rate the music of Level 42 very highly, therefore it stands to reason that if we rate other random musicians, they might not be rated as highly as the band we love. This in itself shouldn't surprise us. Having said that, I personally have seen enough greatest hits for now. I doubt I would go to any other concerts by this group unless Mark had some new material out. I enjoyed the One Man tour more than the Trash tour - and I enjoyed the Trash tour more than the Rare Level 42 tour and I enjoyed the Rare Level 42 tour more than the greatest hits tour - so it's kind of a downward trend at the moment. L()Z Visit our web site at www.scottwilson.com Privilege and Confidentiality Notice. This e-mail and any attachments to it are intended only for the party to whom they are addressed. They may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete any digital copies and destroy any paper copies. Thank you. Scott Wilson Kirkpatrick & Co Ltd Registered in London: No. 880328 Registered office: Scott House, Basing View, Basingstoke, Hampshire, RG21 4JG. UK. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service. | ||
| 15 - straight from the department of Psychiatrische |
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| From: | jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 4 Mar 2003 01:04:56 -0800 (PST) |
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| Well, I've skimmed a few of the next posts and a few things dawned on me...some seem to think that I have some agenda of conversion; I don't. I dont care, nor especially need for anyone to agree with me. All I said was (something close to) I THINK xxx are subpar. This is not a declaration that all must follow. After all, there are McDonalds all over the world because a great deal of people find this edible. I do think, to a learned person, that my statement's "construction" lays on very solid foundation. But as I say, I am not looking for people to have an ephiphany and say, "oh my gawd, jay, I _now_ realize I've heard cats phuck with more harmony than xxx sings/plays/bakes a cake". (apologies to a.d.clay). Also, it can't help but be noticed that EVERYONE coming back with sad little retorts has no refute with my statement, aside from a few bizarre comments that mean nothing. They are all simply "slagging", which I guess is the only thing to do when one can not argue The Point. Music IS a language, folks. There are rules. See those nifty pegs on the top of MK's bass (or on the bridge if he's playing headless), he plays with them cuz the music dictates that he has to stay in tune with the rest of the song. Voice is the same way. (yes, music rules _can_ be broken, but we're not sonically ready/in need of a Picasso of music). So, kids, when it comes to not agreeing, simply follow some of the more mature posts here (see E. Hanson or Win) and just simply say "I dont agree", or better yet, give a debate, refute a point. If you want to posture, do it over private email. As for someone wanting "the last word", I see little-to-no point in when the "last word" is so absurdly something like, "you tell him, steve-dave!!!" (apol to kevin smith). This fan-boy mentality is really what you crave? Fine... As for Freud, I dont believe I've even mentioned him (although since you are nifty and neat, I _am_ looking for a good conditioned _The Problem of Anxiety_ (simply the earlier translation of _Inhibitions, Symptoms & Anxiety_, maybe you could sell me yours?). I am not here, taking time away from my 12-16 hour work days to make friends, piss people off, and certainly not to impress people. This music, as with all of us, has a certain meaning to me. At the current time I see one of my past 'heros' (for lack of a better) playing to the lowest common denominator. And I wonder why others dont see this. This is where my curiosity lay. And I am glad that a few others either take time to think (especially before typing something) or at least appreciate a different view than 'they are The Best band in thew world!!'. apolos for the typos, j __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ | ||
| 16 - Simply Red |
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| From: | Pete Willis <peteburywillis @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:39:49 -0000 |
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>Any comments on the recent release of Simply Red's "new"single (
sunrise)wich is off course a complete rip off Hall and Oates ?
Yes love the Hall and Oates song and love this
version too. It uses the great tune with new lyrics, arrangement & feel
of the song and I just think they have it perfect.
I suppose that will upset all the 'pop' haters on
here but hey ho such is life.
I know to admit you like 'pop music' is not very
hip but I have built my whole business around this. Although I sell all types of
music many customers cross over into pop and I even supply
a rock/metal shop in Sweden and he always adds in some pop items too so
that shows there are plenty of people out there that like variety!
enjoy the music
cheers
Pete
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| 17 - credit |
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| From: | AltoforHire @ aol.com <AltoforHire @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 4 Mar 2003 05:01:21 EST |
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In a message dated 3/3/2003 3:16:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, level42 @ worldmachine.com writes:I believe Win was the one who was pointing the finger to John. I downloaded some tracks, and not long after that I decided to buy the album. It is a great album ( my fav "neon") and im planning to buy the first release of his acoustic album as well. ...and hey, don't I get a credit for telling Win about John Mayer in the first place? Also, "Neon" is my favorite. Angel Girl in 204 | ||
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