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Topics for Tuesday, June 24, 2003

    1.  Steely Dan (Please no) - Laurence Green
    2.  Steely Dan has taken over? NOOOOOOOOOOOO! - Michael Payne
    3.  re:changes cd - louie white
    4.  Gary Husband Statement - Michael Payne
    5.  Ohne Filter - DonZipf @ aol.com
    6.  ot sting - Willem
    7.  Girls Don't Cry - Andrew Goodwin
    8.  More of my ramblings - TPM1024 @ aol.com
    9.  + WEB DIGEST SUMMARY - Level 42 Digest
    10.  + MARKETPLACE - Level 42 Digest

1.  Steely Dan (Please no)
From: Laurence Green <laurence.green @ scottwilson.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:00:53 +0100
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>On Weave Your Spell and Bitter Moon, it says 'director
>unknown' and I was curious as to why that is ...
>anyone know?

Mike, you know I love ya, but I gotta say it.... 'because we couldn't find out who the directors were'.

I've been doing a lot of scrolling on here lately....

As for the reunion - it's as kosher as one of those kosher meals you could get on an aeroplane if you wanted one. Off the list; vegetarian, vegan, celiac, halal, kosher, nut allergy.

'My father ran away to see, he way running to be free, I know the feeling, I only wish he was there for me' - Phil Gould is a genius, man even the lyrics in the demos are mind-blowing, the man leaves a slimy trail of genius wherever he goes - a bit like a snail, but far less distressed by slug pellets. I want to meet him and tell him that when I die and meet the big man in the sky and he asks me to name who I think is the single person who had the biggest most positive influence on my life outside my immediates - I'll say Phillip Gould.

L()Z

 


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2.  Steely Dan has taken over? NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
From: Michael Payne <michael @ journeyhouse.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 08:19:44 -0500
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This is still the Level 42 Digest isn't it?   Good - I thought it had changed hands to the Steely Dan Digest - which would have been very sad - as I can't stand them!  Sorry, I tried to listen & enjoy Steely Dan - far too boring and soul-less for me!  I stick to Level 42 thank you!  Not opposed about posting information on other groups though  - but sorry this group just does not do it for me - I'd rather listen to the best of Dolly Parton to be honest!

MIKEY

PS:   Funny how the prices on Ebay have increased and NO comment from LOZ?  Where is your criticism now?  Thought so!  Thanks Sean "Louie"  White for pointing that out even though you are a right tosser!



3.  re:changes cd
From: louie white <spaz4242 @ sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 07:25:36 -0700 (PDT)
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i only posted the amount of the cd because i wanted to
here loz have something to bitch about. i guess he's
even tired of his complaining. mabye he will now
realize that his comments about what people ask for
their items is none of his concern. lift up the digest
loz, do not bring down with stupid comments. hey,
write a book, at least you know you will sell one
copy, to yourself. all my love loz.

4.  Gary Husband Statement
From: Michael Payne <michael @ journeyhouse.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:33:50 -0500
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I read this on Carl's site http://www.forevernow.com - What brought all this on?  After reading it twice through - I am even more confused......

* 6/19: Gary Husband on new YCB Album!
"I have the great privilege to announce after much negotiation with Gary Husband that he will be guesting on keyboards on our forthcoming album 'Partners In Rythmic Crime'. This will only be as a guest and we are looking forward to working with him. Gary has also asked me to add the following statement about the speculation about his leaving Level 42. Please can I ask at this point on behalf of Gary that you DO NOT e-mail him with questions or comments as he and the band are very busy preparing for the forthcoming tour. Any comments please direct them to me at Sharminhall @ aol.com and I will pass these on for you - Sharmin and YCB.

Statement form Gary Husband:
"As you may well know there is a strong prospect the original four-piece Level 42 members will combine, to write, perform and produce a new album ... as "Level 42". Whilst I'm sure this may come as great news to a lot of people it would alter a lot of things for me particularly - just in the way my involvement is generally considered in this present thing.
There are things that bother me, and puzzle me about the way things may go, and Mark and the guys are following a pretty interesting line of endeavour ... but it's really not too much that particularly requires any input from me, except merely to start cloning a whole new set of material I had nothing to do with in the first place. I am not really interested or prepared to start copying and cloning at this stage, new music presented by that original four-piece. I've done rather a lot of it over a period of many years ... but anyway I am slightly disappointed that this line-up isn't to be involved in the group's "new" music in order to forward things as in a more natural evolution and development sense - something this particular band has not yet had the opportunity to prove itself in.
Having been involved with the band on a more resident "permanent member" basis back in the 80's, (while being instrumental in a small way into new music/keyboards etc) I probably feel it more than the other guys. Nothing is certain though, until it happens, of course. I will enjoy the tour at the end of this year once again, and I sincerely look forward to yet another hugely satisfying and eventful spread of concerts with these great guys in this band right here. If I, particularly, end up leaving, I am certain Mark will have no problem finding a fine player to do the live drum work and concert tours from whatever point this may all start to happen.

As always, I thank all those who have offered much support and encouragement.
My best,
Gary."




5.  Ohne Filter
From: DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:22:22 EDT
[top]
J. Traci wrote:
>> [Becker on Rainey]If he still lived in New York, he'd probably
>> still be doing our records."
>
> Has the invention known as the airplane not made it to
> wherever CR _is_ living?

Yeah, but given that SD typically take a year or more to record an album, that would be a lot of expensive commuting, particularly for Business Class.


Mike the Pom wrote:
> Anyone know if this German 'Ohne Filter' Mark King DVD is worth getting?

Yes, it is.  For one thing, the Digest pin I gave Mark in Ryde is still prominently displayed on his guitar strap (you can even see it on the cover).

> Can I play it in Australia?

I believe it's availabe in both PAL and NTSC formats--pick the one that's right for you.


Peace - Z.




6.  ot sting
From: Willem <willem.kirsti @ quicknet.nl>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 22:00:51 +0200
[top]
2004 new tour; kipper will be replaced by Jason Robello; good news for AG i think.


7.  Girls Don't Cry
From: Andrew Goodwin <nightfly83 @ hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:51:31 +0100
[top]
Sorry for the protacted silence, I've been busy floating around in the in
the vacuum which constitutes my meaningless, soulless life.

Before we start, let's just clear up one issue which has clearly been
causing unnatural fascination lately: since child number 4 turned up in
February, I am under strict instructions to keep the trousers on at all
times. As for Anthony Kay/Kay Anthony, I think we could all do with being a
little more sensitive towards those amongst us coming to terms with a sexual
identity crisis. Plus I struggle to get too upset at being told I have an
empty life by a viewer of Big Brother.

Anyway, a handful of nuggets which need a response.

>3. Ding, Dan, Don
>From: Colin Gupta <thegoop @ sympatico.ca>
>
>It seemed to me when Andrew made the Neville Chamberlain remark, he was
>suggesting none of what Don had said was sustainable.

No, I just said he was misguided. But then we’ve known that for years.

>Regardless, I don't think so, but perhaps my comments were also misguided.

Only the one where you suggested I fall prey to knee-jerk defensiveness. But
given the cornucopia of erroneous character summations sprayed my way
recently, that is frankly the work of a novice.

>Though, how is Aja vague and self indulgent (sorry, I realize you've
>argued this point extensively)? Lyrically? I'm not clear on what you mean.
>Do you not find the sounds to be timeless, evoking, unparalleled and
>absolutely pleasant in every way? I like The music in Deacon blues,
>especially the sax, but in particular I admire the lyrics.

Without wishing to expound in too much detail (known in some parts as
‘ranting’), both are songs which allow my mind to wander. Much of the oeuvre
of Steely Dan is significantly more compulsive.

>Not all of us have the resources to see the band these days, so forgive me
>if I have difficulty in taking the "gig" posts to heart. Perhaps if there
>was a little more description about the gig itself instead of the social
>aspects

You mean the knowledge that gigs are attended by loads of true fans who have
obviously been to loads of gigs before (lawyers please note, that’s a
paraphrase and not a quote) doesn’t leave you agape with fascination? Shame
on you, you charlatan fan.

>2. Eric Hansen, Sir
>From: Pete Willis <peteburywillis @ hotmail.com>
>
>I enjoyed the posting today highlighting the fact that AG prefers the more
>'poppier' Steely Dan albums.

I’m Mr Steely Dan Lite.

>That is interesting considering usual slaughtering he gives to most other
>things, 'poppy'. Great ammo for any future postings where he slams the
>next pop group!!

As one of maybe two people here who can proudly name all six members of
Haircut 100, I’m hardly pop music’s nemesis. I just call it the way I see
it, just like everybody else.

>4. More Dan...scroll if you can't take it
>From: DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com>
>
>I was just citing Barney as an example, mostly for the opening track on Two
>Against Nature, "Gaslighting Abbie", which boasts wicked bass chops.
>That's the sort of thing that I finding sorely lacking in Everything Must
>Go.

But that’s also a great example of why I prefer EMG. Yes Gaslighting Abbie
has a great bass line, but musically that’s the most interesting aspect of
the song. At least half a dozen songs on EMG are more complete and
satisfying compositions. I think maybe Don just likes to stand really close
to the painting so he can examine the brushwork, whereas I’d sooner see the
whole picture.

>For some reason, the boys decided to make this album extra-clean and
>studio-sterile.

Curiouser and curiouser, since I find the new one a much more warm and
inviting listen than 2vN. Somebody put on the theme tune from Diff’rent
Strokes.

>5. der Sonntag
>From: jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com>
>
>1) I’m not sure how Eric came to my “defence”, as I
have merely a balcony and no yard. (Yes, it’s low to
knock ones spelling, and surely I run afoul on
occasion, but when one is _really_ trying to flex some
miniscule muscles, one should _really_ try to get
their poop together, no?)

Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear. I think that since Pete is English, and until
American cultural imperialism forces a change the language we’re writing is
called English, he’s probably within his rights to spell defence the way the
English do. Wouldn’t you say?

AG

PS Sharmin, please pass on to Gary Husband my admiration for the dignified
manner in which he has once again conducted himself.

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8.  More of my ramblings
From: TPM1024 @ aol.com <TPM1024 @ aol.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:16:11 EDT
[top]
Just a few words on some things that have come up over the last few posts to to bore the lot of you.

Jeff "Skunk" Baxter came up a few days ago. I recently saw him, much to my disbelief, on the late evening news discussing terrorism and the war. He is now employed by our Department of Defense as an adviser to the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization and a bio-terrorism expert as well. Wow! I'm guessing some of you may have known this but it was news to me.

Cross dressing. What can I say on this subject except that maybe we could get together and act out some of our favorite Monty Python sketches.

Earth Wind & Fire. Just ordered the new CD "The Promise" as well as "Live in Rio." Will review if anyone desires.

On to Level 42. I just received my "Greatest Hits Live" cd Saturday. It looks to me like "Live at Reading" under different cover. It does include RITF and LIL thrown in at the end. It's on the Superior label made in Germany. Haven't opened it yet.

I have not noticed any talk about Gary's posting via Sharmin last week. I think we all believed he would feel this way. I would.

I have thoroughly enjoyed downloading MP3's from level42info.com and thedanishway.dk of some of the terrific concerts from the early 80's. These guys were nothing short of unbelievable live. I suffer great internal torment from never having seen them live. I'm in group therapy. It's a Forty-two step program. Big thanks to Bjorn, Rob & Norm. Please, please keep up the great work.

Trent






9.  + WEB DIGEST SUMMARY
From: Level 42 Digest <level42-admin @ worldmachine.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 04:30:09 -0400
[top]

Don't miss a Level beat! The following is a list of messages posted to the Level 42 WEB Digest over the last day (not including off-topic and admin boards). Click on a heading to get the full content for any board or topic. Questions about this mailing list related service? Email us at level42-admin @ worldmachine . com. Have fun!


 Official Website Announcements
       1 new -- 2003 Ultimate Tour announced.
  by Bassgirl
       1 new -- level42.com
  by Bassgirl
 General Discussion
       2 new -- Best Level 42 track starting with the letter "T" 1
  by Bassgirl, Jesper
       3 new -- Best Level 42 track starting with the letter "T" 2
  by Bassgirl, Christoph, mtm_01
       7 new -- Its gotta change..................
  by indium, stainsy29, mtm_01, humph42
       6 new -- Mark King  vs  Victor Wooten  !!
  by KBproto5, far0n, SteveR
       2 new -- No Forevernow & LIPW?? why
  by Christoph, humph42
       5 new -- PLEASE READ...STATEMENT FROM GARY HUSBAND.
  by Thunder on a Yamaha RTC, Loz, chrisderoo, Nigel, MattJB
       2 new -- The Ultimate Tour
  by SAJ, mtm_01
       5 new -- WHY MARK APPEARED AS A "CLOWN"?
  by mtm_01, stainsy29, T, kamshaftreesycup
       4 new -- Wally Badarou's 1st album Back to scales to-night
  by Bjorn42, Dan James, des
       1 new -- Why did we fall in Love with Level 42?
  by Bassgirl
 International Levelfests
       2 new -- Level Forty Woo-Hoo!
  by lee, MARTINFORD
 Buy, Sell & Trade
       2 new -- 2 Status Basses For Sale
  by OxYmOrOn, jaydee42
       4 new -- Mark King: Influences US CD
  by toetsenman, Bjorn42
       1 new -- Who wand's to trade Bootlegs ?????
  by Christoph
 Musicians' Lounge
       1 new -- EBS!
  by THOM
       1 new -- My Updated Kit
  by humph42
       3 new -- Status Question??
  by P-funk, Doctor_Bass, jaydee42

Author Summary

5 messages:
     Bassgirl, mtm_01
4 messages:
     Bjorn42, stainsy29
3 messages:
     Christoph, humph42
2 messages:
     far0n, KBproto5, indium, toetsenman, jaydee42, SteveR
1 messages:
     lee, kamshaftreesycup, OxYmOrOn, des, MARTINFORD, P-funk, Doctor_Bass, Jesper, chrisderoo, Loz, THOM, Nigel, Dan James, SAJ, MattJB, Thunder on a Yamaha RTC, T

10.  + MARKETPLACE
From: Level 42 Digest <level42-admin @ worldmachine.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 04:48:04 -0400
[top]

Welcome to the Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE! Shopping for Level 42 items on the net? Let the Level 42 Digest be your sales associate! By scanning and publishing each day's sale items from various sources, the Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE helps keep you tuned in to what's available. As always, if you have any suggestions for improvements or additional content, please email us at level42-admin @ worldmachine . com. Happy shopping! :)

Most-Expensive Level 42 Items on eBay
(as of 4:47:34 AM, 6/24/2003)


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LEVEL 42 MARK KING ORIGINAL POSTER PRINT NR!
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9d 01h 39m
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GBP 9.99
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6d 12h 00m
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GBP 9.59
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6d 13h 10m
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$14.99
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Soonest-To-End Level 42 Items on eBay
(as of 4:48:04 AM, 6/24/2003)


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Time Left
Level 42-Level Best-Vinyl-Album-LP
AU $2.00
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2h 12m
Level 42-Running In The Family-Vinyl-Album-LP
AU $2.00
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2h 13m
Level 42, Truecolours.
GBP 1.00
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2h 26m
Level 42 - Level Best CD (Best Of Album)
GBP 1.04
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GBP 2.00
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LEVEL 42 - LIVE AT THE CRYSTAL PALACE BOWL 91
GBP 4.99
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8h 54m
LEVEL 42 - THE DEFINITIVE BIOGRAPHY - RARE!
GBP 26.00
9

9h 24m
Level 42 Video - Family Of Five
GBP 3.00
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10h 36m
Level 42 Video - Level Best (Greatest Hits)
GBP 3.00
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LEVEL 42 CD RUNNING IN THE FAMILY VGC
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10h 59m
LEVEL 42 - Children Say CD Single
GBP 1.20
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11h 28m
LEVEL 42**ULTIMATE COLLECTION**2 CD SET
$16.93
$19.93

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12h 15m
LEVEL 42 - Live at Wembley VHS video PAL.
GBP 3.99
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12h 25m
LEVEL 42=RUNNING IN THE FAMILY==IMPORT CD
$6.00
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14h 35m
80s LPs - Men at Work, Level 42, Kon Kan, etc
$0.75
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16h 36m



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