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Tuesday, January 28, 2003 |
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| Topics for Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1 - random maus clickings - jt 2 - Re: Level Best - Bram 3 - Gresham Blues - HOLMAN, Stuart 4 - Beautiful Observation - Steve Randall 5 - would-be covers, JK/Jamiroquai and GOLD and/or SPAM - Eric J. Hansen 6 - e-mail signatures - Jackson, Lolita 7 - Virtual Light - alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca 8 - Chinese Way video? - mark.summers1 9 - L42 stuff - Richard Maybury 10 - Dreams +Visions - Lambrichts Peter 11 - Trigonstock - Eric J. Hansen 12 - Dan Nesselroth's post - Dave Mock 13 - Gould Enterprises - Pete Willis 14 - Stratus - Andy Kennedy 15 - Re: Those annoying sigs, and the return of the handsome rugged two-headed president of the universe - Matthew T. Blackmon 16 - New album - Maria Gechou 17 - funk music - Tom Foolery 18 - minor ramblings - Monique Williams 19 - Doug Ryan if youre out there - Monique Williams 20 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE for 1/28/2003 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE |
| 1 - random maus clickings |
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| From: | jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 03:03:34 -0800 (PST) |
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> Come now, even the most pedestrian of readers can > get through one of these > Digests in the time it takes to download Possibly true. If "getting through" is your objective. >a couple of > threads of bored > housewives arguing over which of them fancies George > Clooney the most, or > people comparing how many hits on search engines > their names bring up. [etc] Yes, I totally agree there is alot on bunk on there, but all of the things you mention are under the 'other topics' header, so, if one doesn't want to read them, one doesn't have to go there, the Level 42 folder is pretty well divisioned. Whereas here, noone ever puts 'off topic' in their subjects. Unfortunatly alot of the members on the Web-Thing, and this could be due to the 'other topic' features, have a big sense of 'community' and take great offense to some things said. Aside from maybe 5 people on there, the ability to have a intelligent discourse in near-impossible. I liken it to living in the Emerald City where everyone wears green tinted spectacles, so, of course, everything is green. Someone comes along and says, "this isn't _really_ green". It's unacceptable. Unfathomable. So, the best of both worlds is to surf each, time permitting (and with the nice-ness of having a quick conection at work) this list and that list. Afterall, I dont want to miss ANY news on the release of 'BIRD'! ;) > Some people like Marmite. Better than TupperWare... Tchau, j __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com | ||
| 2 - Re: Level Best |
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| From: | Bram <bram @ sonicbird.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:30:51 -0800 |
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In response to Mike, I think the reason the
Gould brothers are barely mentioned on Level Best is purely a marketing
thing. They were looking ahead and selling the "new" Level 42 using old
hits. Maybe a lot of people thought they'd split up after Phil and Boon
left. I always thought it a bit rude towards Phil and Boon too, but this
is the explanation I came up with...
Oh, and how's this for flamebait: from the
very first time I listened to SATS I always thought Tracie was one of the best
tracks on it! And the extended version (not the 7" single version!) is
even better because they speeded it up a little, and because of Alan's nice
guitar work. I really like this song because Gary's drumming is so
tight. Mind you, I generally prefer Phil's sound, it is more Level 42 to
me, but Gary is a very close second.
Actually, off the Guaranteed album I have
always liked Her Big Day a lot too. I never understood why they didn't
make a single out of it like they did Tracie: speed it up a little, make some
very cool remixes and there you have it! Speaking of remixes, I recently
discovered that I have the US remix of Tracie (I'd forgotten it even existed) on
vinyl. Excellent remix!
greetz
Bram
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| 3 - Gresham Blues |
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| From: | HOLMAN, Stuart <HOLMANS @ NORWICH-UNION.CO.UK> |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:42:35 -0000 |
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| I know it sounds very depressing but in my "Last Will & Testament" I've requested a cremation and Gresham Blues is to be played as my coffin goes on it's last journey through the curtain ... Hope it won't be too soon in the furture !! Stu. ********************************************************************** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ********************************************************************** Norwich Union Insurance Limited Registered Office 8 Surrey Street Norwich Norfolk NR1 3NG Registered in England Number 99122 Member of the General Insurance Standards Council For Further enquiries 01603 622200 | ||
| 4 - Beautiful Observation |
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| From: | Steve Randall <Steve.Randall @ mouchel.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:13:46 +0000 |
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| Spot on Dan Nesselroth who wrote :- Guaranteed bleeds Level 42 self parody. It's as if they were trying to re-write Lessons in Love. I listen to Early Tapes more than anything else too. gresham Bluesmakes a pleasant change. Nice little throw away. Steve Randall The information in this e-mail is confidential and intended to be solely for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain copyright and/or legally privileged information. If you are not the addressee (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee) please e-mail us at postmaster @ mouchel.com and delete the message from your computer; copying, distribution, use or disclosure of its contents is strictly prohibited. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption no responsibility is accepted for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice contained in any e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. In addition, no liability or responsibility is accepted for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Please note that for business purposes, outgoing and incoming emails from and to the company may be monitored and recorded. Mouchel Consulting Ltd, Registered Office : West Hall, Parvis Road, West Byfleet, Surrey UK KT14 6EZ Registered No : 1686040 | ||
| 5 - would-be covers, JK/Jamiroquai and GOLD and/or SPAM |
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| From: | Eric J. Hansen <ehansen @ worldmachine.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 09:44:15 -0500 |
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| Mike wrote: > I'm talking about workplace-related e-signatures, which often include > lengthy disclaimers. These are added automatically only when set up to do > so by the user and can be highlighted and deleted in two seconds before > hitting 'Send'. I'm all for removing this junk if people can/do remember to filter it out of their outbound messages. The disclaimers and other junk take up space and bandwidth. And on a rant here, I'm calling these email footers the "hidden spam" that is plagueing the corporate email world... lets face it, do they *really* shield the company from liability?? calling David Landry...!? Colin wrote: > Instead of Level 42 covering other bands, what about a new tribute album > of Level 42; Ozzy Ozborne doing Something About You; Britney doing The > Chinese Way, Lenny Kravitz doing Starchild.... Hmm... if you look at what Kelly Osborne did with Madonna's "Like A Virgin", I think this is a bad idea. ;) Of course I never really liked Madonna's song in the first place (nor any of her songs... nor her in general... although there is a Level 42 trivia tie-in here, I believe.) And I won't even start in with Britney... best to leave that one for AG. Lenny Kravitz, I believe, could do some creative justice to a number of Level 42 tracks, as could Red Hot Chili Peppers. I need to give this one some more thought and write more later. > In the absence of this, I completely love JK. I am a real late comer, > but think this guy is a musical genius, who is unparalleled today. I > cannot think of one entry I would skip past. Are you referring to Jamiroquai and Jay Kaye (JK)? I agree that he is great, although I think he's unfortunately past-tense now. From what I've seen, they had great potential and JK's ego pretty much knocked them off their perch... material has become less and less innovative steadily over time. If I had to list my favorite Jamiroquai albums in order of best to worst, it would start with the first, sequentially go through each one, and then end with the last (or maybe transpose the last two CD's). I've also seen then 3x in concert - same sequence of "best" to "worst" I'm afraid. :( Although for you UK cooking fans, I did see the episode of Jamie Oliver's show where he cooked for Jamiroquai, and that was cool (this was on the US' Food Network.) And also, there's a few good Level 42 trivia tie-in's with Jamiroquai as well, for those interested... Marketplace/EBAY wrote: > LEVEL 42 LP GOLD DISC Up to 180 UKP! Wow. cheers, Eric | ||
| 6 - e-mail signatures |
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| From: | Jackson, Lolita <Lolita.Jackson @ morganstanley.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:23:51 -0500 |
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| <Appreciate your response, Eric, but I'm talking about workplace-related e-signatures, which often include lengthy disclaimers. These are added automatically only when set up to do so by the user and can be highlighted and deleted in two seconds before hitting 'Send'.> Hate to contradict you my friend, but this is simply not true for everyone. In the United States anyone who works for a financial institution [Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch, Goldman Sachs] must have that disclaimer attached, and there is no way to delete it. I don't ever see it and there is nothing that can be done to disable it without disabling the ability to send an e-mail at all. I can't speak for other industries, but it is an SEC [i.e. federally mandated] rule for mine. Believe me, I would love to get rid of it, as it is really annoying and my friends complain. Sorry for the 'off' topic, but I wanted to clarify... Lolita **** Important Notice to Recipients **** It is important that you do not use e-mail to request, authorize or effect the purchase or sale of any security or commodity, to send fund transfer instructions, or to effect any other transactions. Any such request, orders, or instructions that you send will not be accepted and will not be processed by Morgan Stanley. **************************************** | ||
| 7 - Virtual Light |
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| From: | alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca <alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca> |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:24:30 -0500 |
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>> From: Lorraine Moore <lorrainemoore_ @ hotmail.com> Hi all, Not that any of you will remember me - but I am back. Been back for a while, actually but quite enjoying 'lurking'...it is nice to see that the subject matter has not changed one iota since I left (when the Web Digest took over) ... Love Lozzie xx (Hi Alex ~) << Aw, gee shucks. See how she put those wee kisses right before my name? Bet all you other guys are jealous! Welcome back, Lozzie! ...Alex... | ||
| 8 - Chinese Way video? |
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| From: | mark.summers1 <mark.summers1 @ ntlworld.com> | |
| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:04:39 -1000 |
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| Was there ever a video for The Chinese Way? I don't recall seeing one. I know it wasn't a major hit single but neither were some of the other singles that did have videos. Mark Summers :o) | ||
| 9 - L42 stuff |
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| From: | Richard Maybury <rsmaybury @ tiscali.co.uk> |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 19:11:18 -0000 |
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Interesting comments of late regarding who got L42
working with Drew Barfield for Guaranteed - was it Polydor ?
I hope that Phil does release more of the
Trigonstock stuff. What year did this happen ? Was it 2001 or 2002
?
Best Wishes,
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| 10 - Dreams +Visions |
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| From: | Lambrichts Peter <lambrichts.peter @ belgacom.net> |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:43:09 +0100 |
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| Hello,hello,hello,hello...... Ah,the good old digest is back,well done lads I 'm searching for the volunteer copier in Belgium or Holland or even Germany.I already ordered the vcd back in december 22nd and still no answer. Some one??? Thank you Peter L | ||
| 11 - Trigonstock |
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| From: | Eric J. Hansen <ehansen @ worldmachine.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:26:22 -0500 |
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| Lars has been writing a bit about Trigonstock. I did a search on the Digest archives (http://www.worldmachine.com/level42/search) and only found 2 other references to Trigonstock. Naturally I am curious about more details. I've also read through the info on Boon's site (interesting), and now I'm wondering when/if this gig's recording might be released. Lars, can you provide any additional info? (seeing as you have the set list). Also, how did Trigonstock come about in the first place... just "a few friends noodling around with some mics and a tape deck?" Finally, from my perspective, I also find it odd that this event happened with 3/4 of the original Level 42 band... so I'm wondering if Mark was invited and didn't come, or there just wasn't a need/desire to have him there in the first place. Yes, many questions indeed... :) thanks! Eric | ||
| 12 - Dan Nesselroth's post |
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| From: | Dave Mock <dfmock @ rocketmail.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:59:34 -0800 (PST) |
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| Hey, Micro-Kids: Dan Nesselroth's views in the last Digest were smart and insightful. Even though I enjoy stuff on the albums from "World Machine" to "Guaranteed," I find "True Colours" and "Forever Now" quite a bit better -- in part because Phil Gould is working the drums like a craftsman. (By the way, "True Believers" is a work of genius that still packs a punch nearly 20 years later.) Also, while the L42 chart successes "World Machine" and "Running In the Family" drew me into the tent, it was "Level Best" that made me fiercely interested in the band's earlier material. To this day I cherish how true "Love Games," "Starchild" et al were/are to the best of funk and dance. TCOY, The Duke ===== "...brotherhood is not so wild a dream as those who profit by postponing it pretend." (Norman Corwin) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com | ||
| 13 - Gould Enterprises |
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| From: | Pete Willis <peteburywillis @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 23:20:07 -0000 |
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Hi All
Wow there was me enjoying Level 42's music right
through from the start to the final album and taking the music on how it
sounded.
Silly me though they obviously 'sold out' from the
original plan! So why can't I still enjoy it?
Ok I know I'm gonna be told it's only an opinion
etc. etc. but bands move on and try and vary things a bit.
The Gould brothers decided it was time to move on
and could look back on some classic years in my opinion of great music.
Meanwhile Level 42 moved on with Mark and
Mike putting together new songs and sounds with some new musicians and
in my opinion making some great music STILL.
Now the interesting thing for me is that the Gould
brothers left to do their own thing but have not made any impact on the music
world since except from any Level 42 involvement. They didn't want success or chart songs etc. but it is a shame that such
talents aren't enjoyed in the wider world.
Ok so I like pop music and 'slushy' songs (I also
like Rock, Soul, New Wave etc or whatever else takes my fancy.).
Sad thing that I am I make 'Midnight Mix'
compilations with all my favourite 'slushies' and there are a
hundred volumes.
I just enjoy it, I love chilling out to even tracks
like 'People' (AG having given me 3 points for my new found love of Jazz with
the Gary Husband Trio has just deducted me 50 points for that revelation
probably!!)
I'm struggling with the 'Gould Enterprises' bit as
if that was the case why haven't they impacted the music scene since? This
is not a put down but a genuine question.
Out of interest looking at my Level 42 compilations
I put together then most of the songs on volume one come from the pre 1987 era
just in case anyone wanted to box me in the 'later' preference
catergory.
cheers
Pete
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| 14 - Stratus |
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| From: | Andy Kennedy <andy @ amk.uklinux.net> |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 23:37:25 +0000 |
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| Eric J. Hansen wrote - >I'm not sure if Lee Sklar actually played bass on the original Cobham track...? I digress. I just checked - he did. AMK | ||
| 15 - Re: Those annoying sigs, and the return of the handsome rugged two-headed president of the universe |
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| From: | Matthew T. Blackmon <segoy @ firesermon.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:37:07 -0500 |
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| Level 42 Digest for Monday, January 27, 2003mikethepom asked us to consider the following <quote> Appreciate your response, Eric, but I'm talking about workplace-related e-signatures, which often include lengthy disclaimers. These are added automatically only when set up to do so by the user and can be highlighted and deleted in two seconds before hitting 'Send'. . . <snip /> </quote> Actually, Mike, I think you'll find that, more-often-than-not, the boilerplate lingo is set up by your email administrator to automatically be attached to any email that is leaving he company's outbound email system for a domain other than itself. I know that my company's standard piece is ten lines long. I know that several of us on the list either work, or have worked, for companies involved in accounting and finance (myself- KPMG Peat Marwick, Lolita- Smith Barney, right?): in these cases the lingo is there for a good reason, too. :) On the other hand, yeah, it'd be nice not to see it, but it's a small price to pay. And, in a completely unrelated event, rumors have surfaced that Zaphod Beeblebrox, notorious gangster and president of the universe, has reportedly taken up residence near the city of Washington, DC. Mr. Beeblebrox is wanted for questioning in the questionable dispersion of rare and unrelated Level 42 music, and the disapperance of one hell of a starship. If you run into Mr. Beeblebrox, it is recommended that you buy him a drink, as he'll already likely one drink from the floor. TCOY Matthew Blackmon <visualize an annoying sig here /> | ||
| 16 - New album |
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| From: | Maria Gechou <MGechou @ t-online.de> |
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| Date: | Monday, January 27, 2003 10:03 AM |
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Hi Folks, the new album is not called "Bird"....sorry guys, it was a misunderstanding...Mark told me a bit later that this would be a joke (I saw my conversation on a video tape) So I wanted all to let you know the new album is not called "Bird".... sorry guys, it was a misunderstanding... Mark told me a bit later that this would be a joke (I saw my conversation on a video tape) So I wanted all to let you know this, before more rumours go around... Does anybody know where the saxophone player Sean Freeman played before he join L42 ? I'm not sure but I have the feeling that I saw him playing with Candy Dulfer's Band "Extravaganza" from the Netherlands or he just was a guest musician ???!!!! Fank da World... O(+> Maria G. | ||
| 17 - funk music |
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| From: | Tom Foolery <grooveyardtom @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:32:32 -0800 (PST) |
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| Hey Colin et al, well, I also like Greyboy's Freestylin, so here are a few others I could recommend: 1. Down to the Bone - their Urban Grooves I and II albums 2. Con funk shun's Greatest Hits 3. Zero 7's "Destiny" - mellower but still great 4. Any album by the group Junk on the faffco label, out of print now but keep yer eyes peeled 5. A French band called Sheraff 6. The New Orleans band Galactic - "Coolin Off" 7. the 70's one-miss wonder Cymande 8. the Portland group "Heavy Brothers" 9. Dr. John's "Duke Elegant" - funk cover tunes of Duke Ellington standards 10. how about Little Axe - "The House that Wolf Built" 11. Deep Banana Blackout - "God Made Me Funky" live 12. anything by the Meters 13. Stereo MC's "connected" 14. Anjelique Kidjo has some nice stuff - "Oremi" for example I'll think of more later, and some of the above is not "instrumental" or "pure jazz funk" but it's still funky and close enough. >>>I do like hip hop/jazz and house beat stuff like DJ greyboy (Freestylin), St Germain (Boulevard), The New Deal or Bullfrog (hiphop funk). Can anyone recommend other stuff like this? Colin __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com | ||
| 18 - minor ramblings |
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| From: | Monique Williams <mowllms @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:01:51 -0800 (PST) |
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| the digest has been a true newspaper as of late.i think the assorted topics are GREAT!were back to our old groove.LOVELY!i thought the sidney city milkman was hilarious{sp.}but whatever you do please dont laugh your tits off.that might hurt! id like to open up the debate floor for fave l42 videos.a few have posted their faves already,cool.the video im choosing is Its Over.i think the panoramic scenery combined w/the lyrics makes for a great setup.lets have your vote!peace%mo __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com | ||
| 19 - Doug Ryan if youre out there |
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| From: | Monique Williams <mowllms @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:53:33 -0800 (PST) |
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| Doug Ryan if youre hiding in the closet reading the digest wherever you are:come out ,come out!i just re-discovered your CD.ive had the Hardest Time trying to catch up with you since the digest disbanded and my shout-outs have gone blank.if anyone has Dougs e-mail please privately mail me. peace% mo __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com | ||
| 20 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE for 1/28/2003 |
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