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Tuesday, January 21, 2003 |
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| Today's Topics 1 - re: fave albums - Eric J. Hansen 2 - As for Me and My House - alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca 3 - A good one from Goodwin, and drum loops - Zak 4 - Never Cry Wolf - alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca 5 - RE: Micro Kid Live - Chris Johnson 6 - Dreams & Visions cover - Stuart Holman 7 - Il Postino - Andrew Goodwin 8 - Re: Fave Album by Level 42 - Andy Kennedy 9 - Re: Fave Album by Lavel 42 - Andy Kennedy 10 - Gary Husband Trio - Pete Willis 11 - Set List, Guaranteed Live - Chris Lawless 12 - Fave albums - Dave Mock 13 - Incognito - Jackson, Lolita 14 - re:many different things - Monique Williams 15 - Wally Badarou - Chris Lawless 16 - Ex Mark King basses - Veen, Willem van der 17 - Effing Live Aid - mikethepom 18 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE for 1/21/2003 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE |
| 1 - re: fave albums |
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| From: | Eric J. Hansen <ehansen @ worldmachine.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:29:49 -0500 |
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Danny
wrote:
I thought it would be interesting to
open a debate/thread on this to find out
peoples' fave Level 42 album. They
released alot of albums in a 15 year period and
I think it would be interesting to see
the results and opinions.
Personally my fave is 'Level 42' You just cannot beat the sound of 'Love Games' and 'Starchild' when they first came
out. Brit Jazz/Funk was just exploding on the scene
and Level 42 led the way. As a 16
yr old at the time it just blew me away.
I'd have to say that my top
three favorites are "Level 42", "True Colors" and "Standing
In The Light".
Perhaps odd
choices since my first exposure to the band was with
World Machine when it first
debuted in the
US.
In my opinion, their
self-titled release "Level 42" is really a classic, and for alot
of
people (die-hard fans or
otherwise) defines the Brit-funk genre with tracks like Dune
Tune,
Starchild and the reference
track Turn It On. Standing In The Light
progresses further
into the 80's funk arena
with slick studio production courtesy of Dunn & White,
and gave us Micro Kid,
SITL, and my own most favorite El Debarge rip-off, People.
The thing that does it for
me with True
Colors is the "raw" feel, which is out of place
amidst all other Level 42
material.
Maybe True Colors didn't have the same studio
engineering "polish"
(compare with
SITL, World Machine or RITF), but because of
this you really have to focus on the music, lyrics and concepts, and they all shine on
this album. True
Colors contains perhaps my all-time-favorite Level 42
tracks,
Kansas City Milkman (killer
bassline), the funky True Believers, and the haunting
Hours By The
Window.
cheers,
Eric | ||
| 2 - As for Me and My House |
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| From: | alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca <alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca> |
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| Date: | Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:59:55 -0500 |
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>> From: Andy Kennedy <andy @ amk.uklinux.net> Eric J. Hansen wrote - I've been wanting to post this for group rumination for quite some time now. This is a piece written up by Vinca Mora (aka Synth), the designer of the first Level 42 site on the net (circa 1995?), at http://kumo.swcp.com/synth/story/ . >>> Mike was a fragile man... Mark was the cavalier, the happy-go-lucky... Phil was a very angry man... Boon was the unsung hero... The four made a music video, and got to play Tranquility, Malice, Rage, and Everyman, respectively. I suppose we're only human, after all... (cc: vson @ swcp.com) <<< Well, what a load of baloney! << Well I missed the part that makes it an allegory, but I wouldn't dismiss the treatment outright as a poor-man's imitation sandwich meat. I think it's great when people tell us about their personal interpretations of Level 42 songs. I mean, come now campers, we've all known the songs for well over a decade, and it's not like there's a lot of news about the band to discuss. So go ahead everybody, spin us some yarns telling of the jungle of thoughts sprouting from the seeds sown by our lyrical lads. And to those who disagree, consider that writing is an incomplete experience. It's the reader's interpretation that completes the picture. ...Alex... | ||
| 3 - A good one from Goodwin, and drum loops |
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| From: | Zak <zak @ xaqtly.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:24:53 -0800 |
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On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 03:12 AM, AG wrote: > Consider > yourself soundly beaten with my huge rademaker. Aaaaahahahaha! *wipes tear from eye* Yep, you don't get this on the web digest. In any case, I bought Reason 2 a while back, it's a nifty little program that acts as a self contained music creation studio of sorts. You can plug in loop players, synths, effects, a drum machine and it's midi compatible. Anyway, it came with a loop CD, so I was looking through it and imagine my surprise when I saw Phil Gould's name in there. Sure enough, there are 10 different Phil Gould drum loops and they sound great. That was kind of a nice bonus, I'm going to try using one of them pretty soon. -Zak | ||
| 4 - Never Cry Wolf |
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| From: | alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca <alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca> |
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| Date: | Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:44:14 -0500 |
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| >> From: EMIKATIE @ aol.com <EMIKATIE @ aol.com> I'll take TV references for $500 Alex.... Might that be John Cleese? << Let's consult the judges... BZZZZZZZZZZZZT! Sorry, John, that's not close enough. True, said words have appeared on TV many times, but I need at least a title, and preferably a scene reference, to give you the points. For author, the group's moniker will suffice. >> From: Brian Flint <wolfbard @ hotmail.com> I know that living in Toronto can diminish the mind but comon..... You'd fair better by challenging us with: Vroom? Mate he wouldn't vroom if you put four million volts through him..... << Oh please! Waaaaaaay too easy: The parrot sketch. >> From: Fred Simpson <FredSimpson @ lineone.net> I'm a bit new to this. Been a subscriber for a while, but feel I have little to contribute. << That's okay; neither do I. >> From: Dannymkavanagh @ aol.com <Dannymkavanagh @ aol.com> It could only be 'Monty Python and the Holy Grail' << DING DING DING DING DING! We have a winner! Now, for the bonus round, Dannymkavanagh and EMIKATIE will go head to head in the race to identify the scene and the character from the movie! The clock is ticking. >> From: Andrew Goodwin <nightfly83 @ hotmail.com> [title:] The Fifth Element Mark King was also the fifth Beatle, by the way. << Okay, okay, I got it: The Fifth Element's climactic scene took place in Egypt, and (scarab) beetles figure prominently in ancient Egyptian stuff. What's my prize? ...Alex... | ||
| 5 - RE: Micro Kid Live |
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| From: | Chris Johnson <cjohnson8972 @ btinternet.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 20 Jan 2003 20:50:03 -0000 |
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Does
anyone have Micro Kid (Live) I think it was recorded Live at Wembley, it
was on the B Side of, To Be With You Again?
It was
a Picture disc, If anyone could e-mail it to me??
Cheers
Chris | ||
| 6 - Dreams & Visions cover |
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| From: | Stuart Holman <stuholman @ tiscali.co.uk> |
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| Date: | Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:26:20 -0000 |
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Many thanks to Dean Osborn for copying Dreams &
Visions for me.
I've been trying to print off a copy of the cover
from Carl's Forevernow.com site however it appears to be sized for a video box
instead of a CD case - am I just being plane thick or can someone help me out
here !!
The last track on Dreams & Visions is a snippet
of a remix of The Sun Goes Down '98 - whilst I'm not great lover of "rap"
remixes I think this is fantastic - can anyone burn me a copy ?
Nice to see the old digest back again - whilst not
a regular contributer I've been an avid reader since day one - well done Eric
!!
Stu. | ||
| 7 - Il Postino |
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| From: | Andrew Goodwin <nightfly83 @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 20 Jan 2003 23:05:47 +0000 |
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| >5 - Random stuff (or should I have a movie title here) (?) >From: jt < jtraci @ yahoo.com> > >I, for one, think this is a brilliant idea and was >pleased to see that it was grouped this way. There are >many annoying things on the net, one of which is >filtering through the nonsense... The notion that the grouping of a forum into clearly defined boundaries eliminates nonsense is a charmingly ingenuous one, if the Level 42 Web Digest is anything to go by. In-jokes, petty vendettas, private conversations, endless repetition of the same old points, all these and more are available for those with hours to spare to download page upon page. Maybe if each user had been limited to a maximum of three postings a day, that might have made people think slightly longer about what they were saying before the Post button was hit. >6 - Bluey >From: Fred Simpson < >FredSimpson @ lineone.net> > >What I thought I may derive from evesdropping, was a heads up on >forthcoming tours etc so I could get in there early. Imagine my excitement >when I read reference to other bands I hold in high esteem, such as >Incognito. And what about all those Steely Dan influences in the choice of >E-Mail handles In the esteemed words of Eminem no less, "Who the f*** are Steely Dan?" >Bingo (I thought) You'll need to call it out if you want to win. Unless you're playing some new kind of intuitive version which hasn't reached these parts yet. AG PS Is Fred Simpson your real name, incidentally? How wonderful if so. I trust all your work colleagues call you Homer Flintstone? _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus | ||
| 8 - Re: Fave Album by Level 42 |
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| From: | Andy Kennedy <andy @ amk.uklinux.net> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:03:47 +0000 |
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| Dannymkavanagh @ aol.com wrote - * --- I thought it would be interesting to open a debate/thread on this to find out peoples' fave Level 42 album. They released alot of albums in a 15 year period and I think it would be interesting to see the results and opinions. Personally my fave is 'Level 42' You just cannot beat the sound of 'Love Games' and 'Starchild' when they first came out. Brit Jazz/Funk was just exploding on the scene and Level 42 led the way. As a 16 yr old at the time it just blew me away. Hope this e mail finds you all well. Regards Danny* --- I think we've had this one a few times before! The Pursuit of Accidents is my favourite album. I gather that this is most peoples least favourite. I am a musician, so maybe that has something to do with it? - or maybe not! Now that I think about it, there's not much saxophone on TPOA and I am a sax player!!! Actually I can't think of any on TPOA - I best go and check. Andy K | ||
| 9 - Re: Fave Album by Lavel 42 |
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| From: | Andy Kennedy <andy @ amk.uklinux.net> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:06:05 +0000 |
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| By the way, You Can't Blame Louis is the coolest thing ever!!! | ||
| 10 - Gary Husband Trio |
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| From: | Pete Willis <peteburywillis @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:17:50 -0000 |
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Hi All
Just had the pleasure of seeing the Gary Husband
Trio here in Truro and wanted to say what a great evening it was.
Wouldn't normally sit down and listen to Jazz but
certainly have had my ears opened up to some great music tonight.
I saw Gary in the Cafeteria before the gig so
I went and disturbed him as he ploughed through his sheet music. Really
great bloke and he even came across to see me later before he left to get ready
to go onstage to thank me for coming and for my best wishes. A very nice touch
and well appreciated.
Anyway if you get chance of seeing them in your
area then please make the effort as it will be well worth it. There were only 75
or so there tonight but they gave it there all and thoroughly enjoyed themselves
as we all did.
I was tempted to ask him if he'd been asked to get
ready for recording a Level 42 album this year but felt it inappropriate really.
He is keen to get his own new album out though and
I'm sure it will be worth getting.
cheers
Pete
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| 11 - Set List, Guaranteed Live |
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| From: | Chris Lawless <lawford42 @ juno.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 20 Jan 2003 19:38:39 -0500 |
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jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com>
wrote:
> The Laminated Set List is: OK, what do you mean "laminated"?
Bessicajane @ aol.com <Bessicajane @ aol.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can get a " Guaranteed Live Laser
Disk?....Contact Tommo.
My first guess would be eBay, or do an internet search for laserdisc
dealers. Bear in mind while searching that people use four different spellings:
laserdisc, laser disc, laserdisk, laser disk. I paid $75 brand new for mine
when it came out, and that was when it was still in print.
If Mrs. Pink should happen to be out there and reading this, give me a
shout via e-mail when you have a moment.
Chris L. | ||
| 12 - Fave albums |
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| From: | Dave Mock <dfmock @ rocketmail.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:38:51 -0800 (PST) |
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| Hey, Micro-Kids: My fave three L42 albums -- right now: 1) "World Machine" 2) "Forever Now" (Resurgence) 3) "True Colours" I really think L42 is of such high quality that even the most slagged of their albums are heads and shoulders above lots of pop/rock/R&B, even now. TCOY, The Duke ===== "...brotherhood is not so wild a dream as those who profit by postponing it pretend." (Norman Corwin) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com | ||
| 13 - Incognito |
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| From: | Jackson, Lolita <Lolita.Jackson @ morganstanley.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:37:43 -0500 |
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| <So, whatever your name is who was supposed to be having a beer with Bluey two weekends ago, what the hell happened. Do they have a live performance or what ? When, where, tickets, fancy getting me a signed photo, meet you there for a beer (I'll wear my level 42 tee shirt) ..> The name is Lolita, and it was me. I answered this on the Web Digest, and forgot that I hadn't done so on here. I spoke to Bluey a week ago, and they are indeed at the Jazz Cafe for a week - tickets are already on sale. I told him that there would be a few of us over from the U.S. and he was flattered and excited. A few of us on this digest have already spoken about this, and two of us plan to fly over to go to the last show on Friday, April 25th. It is highly likely that a small group of us can either sit in on soundcheck or hang out with him afterward, so anybody who is interested in hooking up to go to that show let's chat once it gets closer... Lolita **** Important Notice to Recipients **** It is important that you do not use e-mail to request, authorize or effect the purchase or sale of any security or commodity, to send fund transfer instructions, or to effect any other transactions. Any such request, orders, or instructions that you send will not be accepted and will not be processed by Morgan Stanley. **************************************** | ||
| 14 - re:many different things |
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| From: | Monique Williams <mowllms @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 20 Jan 2003 20:58:21 -0800 (PST) |
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| is it just me or has everyone had enough of the aid debate.i think everyone knows by now the deal. i think ill pick up the debate thread and cast my vote for The Pursuit of Accidents.my favorite piece hands down is tpoa.too brillant for words!!!everytime i listen ,i find something new and wonderful to love. i agree nightfly Mark is the 5th beetle.peace%mo __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com | ||
| 15 - Wally Badarou |
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| From: | Chris Lawless <lawford42 @ juno.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:28:35 -0500 |
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A while back on the original Digest, there was talk of someone burning the
two non-CD releases by Wally Badarou (BACK TO SCALES TONIGHT and CHIEF
INSPECTOR) onto CD. Did anything ever come of this? Also, aside from his two
solo albums (ECHOES, WORDS OF A MOUNTAIN), the KISS OF THE SPIDER WOMAN
& COUNTRYMAN soundtracks, and the SO WHY project (credited to Wally Badarou
& friends), have there been any other solo albums or release where he's the
primary musician?
BTW, if anyone has the SO WHY album, could you tell me if he actually
performed on the disc? On a webpage I found for the disc (http://www.icrc.org/Web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/iwpList75/644CDEA605D33696C1256B66005AD038),
he's credited as "the artistic director" but not as a performing musician. I'm
not really inclined to shell out money for an import title if he doesn't perform
on it.
And just to be complete, does anyone have the S/T's for KISS OF... or
COUNTRYMAN?
Chris L. | ||
| 16 - Ex Mark King basses |
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| From: | Veen, Willem van der <w.van_der_veen @ services.nedtrain.nl> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 08:43:23 +0100 |
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Maybe this one is just for
Morgan ;
I wondered if you prefer
one of 'ex MK basses and why ? ( do you play them or just look
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arguments
about;
shape
sound
playabilityetc.
and for those who do not own an
ex MK bass;
could you compile a bass from
all the brands Mark uses.
fi the sound of GB the
shape of jaydee, the neck of a pangborn and so on.
cheers
willem
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| 17 - Effing Live Aid |
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| From: | mikethepom <mikethepom @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Tue, 21 Jan 2003 01:33:16 -0800 (PST) |
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| I'm proud to have started this whole 'Live Aid/Band Aid' debate but something's got me buggered: AG said, in the last digest: ..."I remember an interview ... in which Mark King admitted it was somewhat humiliating to have not been asked to contribute to Band Aid or Live Aid in any capacity." If this is true, who's the plonker, a couple of digests back, who said that Level 42 WAS was asked to participate but, as bigger bands came aboard, they slipped down the importance rankings until finally they fell off? Cheers ~ Mike (Sydney City Milkman) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com | ||
| 18 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE for 1/21/2003 |
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