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Tuesday, February 11, 2003 |
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| Topics for Tuesday, February 11, 2003 1 - RE:Nik Kershaw - Veen, Willem van der 2 - Level Bashing is GOOD - Dan Nesselroth 3 - Stars and Stripes - BARUA Cliff -CORPSEC/C&EA 4 - in memorium of society - jt 5 - Nothing more to say - Eric Johnson 6 - Guaranteed - Richard Maybury 7 - Empire Of The Sun - Andrew Goodwin 8 - Almost There live cd on eBay - Stephen.Whyte @ lpc.tv 9 - (no subject specified) - Pete Devlin 10 - AG The Expert - Pete Willis 11 - Nick Kershaw albums - Andy Kennedy 12 - MK's libations/Pop-rock derision - DonZipf @ aol.com 13 - the 51st state - Tom Foolery 14 - general responses - Monique Williams 15 - trash - Monique Williams 16 - Re: SoCal Levelfest - Zak 17 - Am I Wrong? - Colin Gupta 18 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE for 2/11/2003 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE |
| 1 - RE:Nik Kershaw |
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| From: | Veen, Willem van der <w.van_der_veen @ services.nedtrain.nl> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:15:40 +0100 |
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" I've
got Nik Kershaws albums on vinyl but would like to get copies on cd.
If anyone is willing to burn me copies, please email me privately. Naturally, I'll cover all costs. Cheers Steve " Steve,
Actually
there are quit a few albums from Nik K. for sale ,..still ! "15 minutes"
and "To Be Frank" are for sale at your local music store.
You may
found the earlier albums harder to get ( but through internet you can order "the
Riddle" by Japanes Import).
You may be
surprised but i can tell Nik is working on a new album !! Furthermore try the
wounded-knee mailinglist wich do have also some Level42/MK "fans". (like
myself and Winston).
On another
note;
its
much easier when you tell were you coming from; maybe someone in your
neighbourhood can help.
Willem
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| 2 - Level Bashing is GOOD |
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| From: | Dan Nesselroth <dnesselroth @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 05:01:25 -0800 |
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For those of you who insist it is shameful to be critical rather than blindly loyal, I cannot be bothered to dignify your statements lest I validate your weak minds by addressing them. The reason I have been critical of Garun and Sats is because they, relative to L42 as a whole, SUCKED. It is not hard to sense a decline in the music from The Early Tapes to Garunteed. Phil Gould was RIGHT all along. I was blown away by Pursuit, Colours, Light, Machine, Family, and when Sats and Garunteed were released I was NOT. I had to let them grow on me. That represents a loss of artistic power. At least Forever Now FINNALLY paid me what I was owed as a fan of Level 42. Whats more, I PAID THEM. I BOUGHT EACH ALBUM OVER AND OVER AGAIN...first on record, than cassette, then usually once again on cassette, and then on CD. I am the consumer, my hard earned money is traded for their product, which deteriorated in quality. We shouldn't be thanking them..THEY should be THANKING US. I gave Mark King the MONEY to buy his home studio, and I expect him to use it wisely. I GAVE Mike Linup his car collection, dollar by dollar. Yeah, I have the right to bitch about the products, and to hell with their feelings if they read this. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus | ||
| 3 - Stars and Stripes |
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| From: | BARUA Cliff -CORPSEC/C&EA <cliff.barua @ opg.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:20:06 -0500 |
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| AG remarked: Unfortunately, since Britain isn't yet officially the 51st state of the USA, I won't be able to hear it myself. Andrew, based on recent proclamations from your Prime Minister on the whole Iraq thing, perhaps you need to write to "Governor" Tony Blair about making this broadcast available to residents of the United Kingdom of America (51st state or Area 51, whichever you like). I must say that I'm bit surprised at how sensitive some folks are about any criticism of "our favourite band". I think many people have opined that given the plethora of quality albums prior to 1988, that SATS and (especially) Guaranteed were relative crap. These two albums provided the greatest evidence that Level 42 HAD to have the Gould Brothers (note the R. Gould and P. Gould on the writing credits). By 1988, Level 42 became the Mark King Band. From their last three albums you can make one solid album. UN inspectors can confirm this. Just my two bits. Cliff Barua - Toronto -------------------------------------------------------------- THIS MESSAGE IS ONLY INTENDED FOR THE USE OF THE INTENDED RECIPIENT(S) AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, PROPRIETARY AND/OR CONFIDENTIAL. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, copying, conversion to hard copy or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify me by return e-mail and delete this message from your system. Ontario Power Generation Inc. | ||
| 4 - in memorium of society |
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| From: | jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 05:25:39 -0800 (PST) |
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| > who cares that they made staring at the sun and > guaranteed??? >the fact that a band that we so love > had a very successful career for more than a decade > should be enough. Should... >also, mark king is back under the > name of level 42!! what a fantastic thing! Yeah? >new music is > being recorded This is a fantastically unfounded statement. >not to mention the new stuff that i > personally am very thankful for. What is your definition of "new"? >if i were mark king, and if i read the last week's >worth of digest messages, i would be wondering why on >earth i went back to my roots If you think MK is going back to his "roots" I would hate to see your garden. >ok, so maybe i went a little far, but guys... What's your definition of "a little"? (ok, sorry, now I'm just busting chops...) > maybe they had no choice, maybe the record company > edged them into a direction they didn't want to go. There's always a choice. > maybe they DID decide to go in a new direction - who > cares! um, apparently some of the people critiquing it and, um, apparently you for defending it (so to speak)... >but who did they upset to get > themselves sandwiched > between two such paragons of tediously repetitive, > if-it-ain't-broke-don't-fix-it drivel? Probably just looking in the mirror and saw the reflection of a band that hasn't produced anything new in a greater span of time (than the other 2 groups) and feels that the crowd realllllllyyyy needs to hear "chinese way" and/or "sumthin about you" a few thousand more times... >If not, > then I blame society at large for spam and UCE. Yes, society, always proving to be under the mark. > Unfortunately, since Britain isn't yet officially > the 51st state of the USA, Dont worrry, AG, it'll get there :/ j __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com | ||
| 5 - Nothing more to say |
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| From: | Eric Johnson <pgi1 @ frontpanels.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:24:40 -0500 |
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Hey I'm a big fan but it IS Ok to say what you
don't like about a band. But the point of consistently criticizing an album is
well taken. Let's reverse the subject and discuss which unreleased song was the
best that they should have included on their albums. I bring this up cause
lately I've been listening to Nothing More To Say and think its one of Mike's
better songs. In fact I like it more and more and have not heard a studio
version of it(if it exists). If it did exist, it would definitely been worthy of
being included on an album.
Also Like the Oh Regine demo better than the
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| 6 - Guaranteed |
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| From: | Richard Maybury <rsmaybury @ tiscali.co.uk> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:53:50 -0000 |
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Loz recently wrote :
When you play your album to the record company and they tell you it's
no good - you need to take the hint. There are probably three tracks that should
have been saved (Overtime is one of them).
Just for interest which are the other two tracks that should have been
saved ?
If Phil and Boon hadn't left, Forever Now would have been the last
album for the contract with Polydor, Level 42 would probably have been the biggest band on the planet and we'd have three other albums which one would
imagine would all have been better than Guaranteed.
Now there's a thought !!!
Kansas City Milkman
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| 7 - Empire Of The Sun |
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| From: | Andrew Goodwin <nightfly83 @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:01:38 +0000 |
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| >11 - Listening to the Sun _far_ more damaging that Staring >From: jt < jtraci @ yahoo.com> > >AG, slap the CD in, give it the ol' breakdown, I'd do >it but I'm still impaired from the last listening... Well I would JT, but I'm not sure the Level 42 Front of Judaea can cope with the affront to their belief system. AG _________________________________________________________________ Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=186&DI=1059 | ||
| 8 - Almost There live cd on eBay |
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| From: | Stephen.Whyte @ lpc.tv <Stephen.Whyte @ lpc.tv> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:24:11 +0000 |
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I'm absolutely stunned that someone is willing to pay £31 so far - and there's still 7 days of the auction to go. I've got a fairly respectable collection of L42 material, but I draw the line at obtaining every available bootleg of live material - of course there's the mandatory White Funky and the '81 live gig that surfaced a couple of years back, but how many can you own before you get bored? Does anyone know what gig the Almost There cd actually contains? Surely it's a bootleg of a gig already in circulation amongst fans, or am I wrong? £31. Some people... *************************************************************************** This email is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, you are in notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person: to do so could be a breach of confidence. Thank you for your co-operation. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of The RTL Group or its associated companies. Please contact our IT Helpdesk on +44 (0)20 7691 6996 or e-mail support.it @ fremantlemedia.com if you require further assistance. *************************************************************************** | ||
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| From: | Pete Devlin <tazbad @ madasafish.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 20:48:27 -0000 |
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| Steve Whyte wrote : If any one is willing to burn me copies...... Well I'll do it. Phew, heat's off our boys now, at least for a day. Shall we start a 'who would you most like to burn albums by thread?'. A.G you go first. Steve Randall wrote : Australopithecine Lucy.......... You must've met my ex, she wasn't bad at percussion - or woodwind for that matter! Could be completely wrong but I seem to remember reading that Mark or Boon once smoked Alaskan Thunderfuck at Lake Tahoe. I also (vaguely) remember toking my self senseless whilst recording 'A Physical Presence' for some dude I met in a bar back at his gaff in 1996. So seeing because of that tenous link me and Mark are now virtually brothers do I get the stalker of the week award? Please I'll be your friend forever. ;-) I've just re read this and seen how dodgy the guy in a bar bit looks.... It was all perfectly above board, honest. Grass does make your ring hurt though doesn't it ? | ||
| 10 - AG The Expert |
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| From: | Pete Willis <peteburywillis @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 23:29:53 -0000 |
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I'm thinking of giving up liking my own music and
checking if AG likes it first before then proceeding forward to listen to
something.
The man is an authority of what is good and what
isn't and it seems the best way forward.
cheers
Pete (Bury still 3rd and rightly so after that game
I've just witnessed at Torquay, what a team!!)
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| 11 - Nick Kershaw albums |
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| From: | Andy Kennedy <andy @ amk.uklinux.net> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 23:55:17 +0000 |
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| >I've got Nik Kershaws albums on vinyl but would like to get copies on cd. >If anyone is willing to burn me copies, please email me privately. >Naturally, I'll cover all costs. >Cheers >Steve If I had any of Nick Kershaws albums, I'd pay you to take them away! AMK | ||
| 12 - MK's libations/Pop-rock derision |
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| From: | DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 20:06:17 EST |
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| > I believe that Mark used to be an alcoholic > (wasn't that the whole interview spiel in Fait Accompli?) I think what Mark has said is that, while he doesn't consider himself to be an "alcoholic", he stopped drinking liquor because it brought out the aggressive side of his personality. He still drinks wine. Next, regarding all the recent bashings of the GUARANTEED and SATS albums.... I didn't find many of the stated criticisms to be constructive in nature, so much as self-fellating mockery. If you're one of those who don't like pop-rock and rue that the band ever changed direction, fine. But at least admit that when Level 42 plays that kind of music, they do a better job than most others. Now go put on your parachute pants, spike up your hair with gel, and relive your glory days...you losers! ;o) Peace - Z. | ||
| 13 - the 51st state |
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| From: | Tom Foolery <grooveyardtom @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:52:12 -0800 (PST) |
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| AG, this idea intrigues me. England as the 51st state would, apart from the immense irony of the 1776 revolutiom, entitle you to our compassionate conservatism. As in, it's compassion to the defense and oil industries. I have always admired the British weekly "Prime Minister's Questions" (viewable here in America on CSPAN) and have thought that American Presidents really ought to be required to do the same. If they could. So - I see Tony Blair carries with him a big book as he sits and stands and sits - what is that? Are the questions he receives known to him in advance? Is he cribbing? sharing is caring, TF __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com | ||
| 14 - general responses |
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| From: | Monique Williams <mowllms @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 20:56:18 -0800 (PST) |
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| 1>eric sorry but i believe it followed me. 2>l42s name came from the hitchikers guide to the galaxy{a Great book,ask zaphod} 3>touching on Virginity{i hope it was the UK version}-you know the US came to mind 1st 4>ive been listening to Coup de ~~ lately also-syn of thy tymes^peace%mo __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com | ||
| 15 - trash |
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| From: | Monique Williams <mowllms @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:09:46 -0800 (PST) |
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| dont know if anyone has discovered or re-discovered a Great song hidden on Trash called Stronger.this song has been a fave of mine for quite a while.i think if someone were to re-make this song i could see Sting or Peter Gabriel with a jazzy tempo.peace+mo __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com | ||
| 16 - Re: SoCal Levelfest |
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| From: | Zak <zak @ xaqtly.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:24:43 -0800 |
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On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 03:25 AM, Maurice Shannon wrote: > I would like to thank Zak & Leslie for > opening up their home. > My L42 experience has largely been one of a private nature (at home, in > the shower, in my car). I never knew > how extensive the fan loyalty was. To all that attended, you are THE > nicest group of people I have ever met. You're welcome, and I wish you could have stayed longer. This was a great Levelfest if I do say so myself, and it truly was a great group of people. Heck, two of the old married couples that were here met each other through this very digest. These guys are some of the best people I've ever met, and I wish we could get together more often. I tell you, I haven't smiled that much in a long time. I needed that as much as anybody. Can't wait till we can do it again. :) -Zak | ||
| 17 - Am I Wrong? |
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| From: | Colin Gupta <thegoop @ sympatico.ca> |
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| Date: | Tue, 11 Feb 2003 03:20:17 -0600 |
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Hey gang
Guaranteed et
all
I'm always amazed at the variety of
tastes. While I agree that SATS and G are less 42 perhaps than others,
there are still typical 42 tracks on all albums. Guaranteed reminds me
of Lessons in Love. Take A Look has an unmistakable Level 42
sound.
I think some of you are just upset because those were the days when
you actually had to pay for all your music. Question - if you never
bought either of these albums, would you download them today for
free? Tell me you don't have hundreds of other albums you never listen to
that are a lot worse (ok I admit it I own more than one Thompson Twins and I'll
never, ever play them again).
I can't understand the number of you
that seem to dislike The Chant. Ok so it may not be as imaginative as
other 42 material, even on the album, but it's not really a dance tune
and no one's relationship has crumbled. It's a
hardcore funkout with great jazzy elements. Isn't that what you all
want? It seems those who dislike
SATS & G, also dislike this tune. I don't get it. What is it you
really want from this band? 42
Hey has anyone counted the number of posted "Level 42
sighting" anecdotes, you know from movies and TV and such?
Just wondering which one will be the 42nd and if there is a prize.
Dirge
Possibilities
The Beatles - Help!
Ian Dury - Wake Up and Make Love To Me
Peter Gabriel - Digging In The Dirt Steely Dan - Home At Last
Soundgarden - Rusty Cage
Lenny Kravitz - Are You Gonna Go My
Way
Yes - Revealing Science of God
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Mommy Where's
Daddy Level 42 - Learn To Say No
Women of the Digest
God I love a cynical wench with a trash mouth....hurt me some more
baby.
Jordachian Male
Killer
I'm thinking its gotta be One In A Million.
Who's Working
Overtime?
Hey I like Overtime too. I also am enjoying Dreams
and Visions. A very large thanks to all who made this
work.
So check out 1:38 of the video and tell me,
who's working overtime?
Colin
P.S. The Big Lebowski is the funniest film
ever made.
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| 18 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE for 2/11/2003 |
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