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Saturday, March 29, 2003 |
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| Topics for Saturday, March 29, 2003 1 - Calling Dan Nesselroth.......... - MDear36910 @ aol.com 2 - subject - Colin Gupta 3 - Cambridge gig - dean.osborn @ bt.com 4 - ultimate tour - Stephen.Whyte @ lpc.tv 5 - Freedom of speech / boundaries - Pete Willis 6 - Love in a Peaceful World - alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca 7 - Me in DUBLIN? WHEN? - Michael Payne 8 - GARY HUSBAND - Michael Payne 9 - Gary's message - DonZipf @ aol.com 10 - Shame on you, Dan Nesselroth! - Nathania Apple 11 - Not so Blinkered - paul scarratt 12 - DAN??????? - ALLAN ROBERTSON 13 - Sigh, Okay, this is a LONG one - Dan Nesselroth 14 - Since we're talking about lyrics... - Andrea Smith 15 - War in the World, War on the Digest - Monique Williams 16 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE for 3/29/2003 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE |
| 1 - Calling Dan Nesselroth.......... |
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| From: | MDear36910 @ aol.com <MDear36910 @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Fri, 28 Mar 2003 04:33:50 EST |
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| I read with "interest" your comments regarding Gary Husband on yesterdays digest, and quite frankly i am astounded and appalled by your narrow minded and quite frankly juvenile comments. Why oh why has Gary not got the right to read whatever media he wants to, in the same way that you are giving yourself the right to say whatever you want about the guy and his playing ability ? Does the guy have no means of defence to the attacks you have made against him ?? sounds a bit one sided to me ......... Sure you may have not liked the response that Gary sent to you . But to display that response and for you to "vent your spleen" on here seems a bit of a foolish way of doing things to me............... Gary vs Phil - who cares ?? I like the playing of both drummers and too be honest i have no preference about which one of the two is "behind the kit" in Level 42 (but get a grip people if you think Phil is coming back !). I have been fortunate enough to see both drummers play live in the band and i Have greatly enjoyed the performances of both. Recently i have grown to really enjoy Garys energy and commitment to his performance . No-one in the current line up (and that includes Mark) put so much into their performance nd make their mark on the show. I have been fortunate enough to meet Gary a couple of times over the last couple of tours, and I laways found him polite, welcoming and always ready to have a reasonable discussion. I cannot say that I am a friend of garys . He wouldnt know me form Adam -( whoever Adam is !) but I cannot stand by and watch the guy being critisised in this way without saying something. One thing I can be sure of is that the guy must have been really offended by your comments to even respond at all. Dan, next time you sound off try to do it a more constructive manner. This forum is not the place to be so juvenile............. Michael | ||
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| From: | Colin Gupta <thegoop @ sympatico.ca> |
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| Date: | Fri, 28 Mar 2003 01:20:49 -0600 |
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Wasn't Neil Pert the original drummer on all Rush
albums? I think someone suggested he came on board
later.
As far as the Doobies, I kinda like the earlier
stuff more. I'll take Long Train Runnin over What A Fool
Believes.
Kamakiriad has some great tunes but frankly is
lifeless compared to any Dan offering and/or The Nightfly. In both
solo albums I hear Dan sounds, but overall they are whitewashed with
pop. I.G.Y., New Frontier, Ruby Baby, Walk Between the Raindrops is
far more pop than SD material. Even Maxine seems somehow not quite
Dan enough. Greenflower Street, The Nightfly
and Goodbye Look sound Dan to me. Oddly, I hear sounds from these
albums on Two Against Nature, which I think has it's weak moments (Cousin
Dupree at least). By the way, there was another singer on Can't Buy A
Thrill, (at least Dirty Work) I think in addition to Fagen.
On the Yes thing, what a remarkable band. With so
many line ups and always outstanding music and musicians. Ironically,
they are enjoying long staying success over the last several
years as the near original band, which I consider to be Bruford, Wakeman,
Anderson, Howe and Squire. Of course Alan White is drumming, whom one
could consider an original as well. And Wakeman just hooked up last
year. I've seen iterations many times and while I love Drama, Trevor Horn
doing Close to the Edge is a horrid thing to behold.
Even Saga goes on, to my amazement.
To me Level 42 is at least Mike and Mark. They are
both necessary to define the sound. Maybe I need Wally too and don't
realize it. Come to think of it, maybe I do need the twins after
all.
Having seen the band once just prior to the release
of RITF, I would love to see Mark's band, presently called Level 42, even if
they played the uninspiring set list. I'd get drunk and then my
subconscious would take over and make me sing something about you, even though I
would never purposely put that tune on sober to sit down and specifically listen
to it. Mark is a big enough draw for me. I'd even pay to go see Mark
jam with Gary or just hear him jam out solo, clinic style. I do not
have the time or money to fly abroad and frankly it's not worth it to
me. If I had to be there, I would absolutely check out every show I could.
It's funny, I was thinking the other day about how
much I like Level 42's material. Although I really enjoy the earlier
material, there are pieces throughout I like. However, ask yourself the three
albums on a desert island question....would one be a level 42 album? Does
this band have any classic albums that you could compare to say The Wall or The
White Album or whatever it is for you (probably not Level 42 is my point).
I'm not slagging, it's just peculiar that if you take the test and be honest,
despite our passion for their music, there is no one album that stands out
amongst the massive array of classics. Ok, if I say massive, then maybe
the first album qualifies.
Colin | ||
| 3 - Cambridge gig |
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| From: | dean.osborn @ bt.com <dean.osborn @ bt.com> |
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| Date: | Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:40:58 -0000 |
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| Booked my tickets for the Cambridge gig on 18/10/03 All seating again though (groan) ! Dean | ||
| 4 - ultimate tour |
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| From: | Stephen.Whyte @ lpc.tv <Stephen.Whyte @ lpc.tv> |
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| Date: | Fri, 28 Mar 2003 11:16:17 +0000 |
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I noticed on Ticketmaster that this tour is being labelled "The Ultimate Tour." What on earth does this mean? Is this because of the Ultimate Collection that came out recently? If so, then surely it's just gonna be another GH tour. I'm confused. Steve ps: And I noticed it's 30 sheets a ticket for the Hammersmith Odeon - sorry, I mean Apollo. A bit steep, don't you think? *************************************************************************** This email is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, you are in notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person: to do so could be a breach of confidence. Thank you for your co-operation. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of The RTL Group or its associated companies. Please contact our IT Helpdesk on +44 (0)20 7691 6996 or e-mail support.it @ fremantlemedia.com if you require further assistance. *************************************************************************** | ||
| 5 - Freedom of speech / boundaries |
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| From: | Pete Willis <peteburywillis @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Fri, 28 Mar 2003 18:19:01 -0000 |
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The digest has not arrived for a few days so I was
stunned when todays did arrive and I saw what had been happening.
Gutted to have to read Gary Husband's email
and the abuse he has received.
The person sending this abuse has gone way way
beyond the boundaries that should be accepted and I would not want to continue
on this digest with this moron still on here. This is not freedom of speech but
an abuse.
I would hope that Eric has the sense to remove this
idiot although I feel the damage has already been done to a talented musician.
Will he want to tour with Level 42 again? I really hope so.
Pete
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| 6 - Love in a Peaceful World |
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| From: | alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca <alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca> |
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| Date: | Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:05:04 -0500 |
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>> From: Terry_Arnett @ ryder.com <Terry_Arnett @ ryder.com> Not only as a drummer - but as a MUSICIAN. << Ouch! On behalf of myself and all the other drummers on this digest, I refrain from spewing vitriol at you for that comment, and I'll assume it was a slip of the finger. The old classic has more than one meaning: "How many people in your band?" "Five: three musicians, a drummer, and a singer." ...Alex... | ||
| 7 - Me in DUBLIN? WHEN? |
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| From: | Michael Payne <michael @ journeyhouse.com> |
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| Date: | Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:50:38 -0600 |
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Norman wrote in yesterday's digest:
I wasn't in Dublin, Ireland last December, I wish I had been though. I think my good friend meant for the fall tour this year! In December I moved from Dallas, Texas to Oklahoma City, Oklahoma - not as much excitement here let me tell you, unless tipping cows and square-dancing counts as exciting. I will be in The Netherlands in November after I attend a few L42 gigs, for about 2 days, still do not know where yet, but I am definitely there this time Norman! MIKEY | ||
| 8 - GARY HUSBAND |
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| From: | Michael Payne <michael @ journeyhouse.com> |
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| Date: | Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:23:28 -0600 |
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From yesterday's digest, posting from Gary Husband:
Music can stay ALIVE with fresh breath and energy running through it's veins
Replace the word "music" with "Level 42" in the above statement....
Level 42 can stay ALIVE with fresh breath and energy running through it's veins
Enough said IMHO, let's get over the old Level 42 vs. the new Level 42...let's just be f-n thankful that these guys are out there playing their hearts and soul out for us to enjoy, get your heads out of the 1980's, it is the year 2003, time to move on! Would I love to see the original 4 play again live and do another album, of course, but I am not going to let these awesome new members not have a chance to offer their special magic on these songs, I am just glad to hear them again. There are other items and gossip to consider, let's not use this forum for debates on the official definition of what constitutes Level 42 - pointless, stupid, and frankly juvenile. AND for the person sending what appears to be the arrogant e-mails to Gary, grow-up, go to the pub, order several pints of cider, and start your letter of apology to Gary and this digest! WOW, indeed! MIKEY | ||
| 9 - Gary's message |
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| From: | DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:54:07 EST |
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| Well, I hope you stupid bastards are happy now. What assholes you are! Z. | ||
| 10 - Shame on you, Dan Nesselroth! |
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| From: | Nathania Apple <n @ nathaniaapple.com> |
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| Date: | Fri, 28 Mar 2003 11:43:55 -0800 |
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| Rarely do I post to this forum or to the web digest these days, but I am so outraged by the goings on here that I can no longer keep silent. I have to say that the attitudes displayed toward Gary and the other members of the current Level 42 are deplorable. While people are entitled to their opinions about whether they prefer the original lineup or the current one, personally attacking members of the band is completely out of line. And frankly, once so provoked, I don't blame Gary in the slightest for responding with vehemence. I've had the pleasure of making Gary's acquaintance and found him to be a good hearted, wonderful man. Seeing him play with Mark has been a profound pleasure for me and I greatly admire his skill and energy as a drummer. Beyond that, I am aware that he is a multitalented musician who works in a variety of media, which is to my mind a real accomplishment. That aside, I find it hard to believe that the comments directed at Gary are truly aimed at his musicianship, but are merely a spiteful gesture of petty rage lobbed at an easy target. For shame. No one deserves to be treated thusly. My hope is that Dan will recognize his error and make an apology to Gary and show himself to be a better man than his actions imply. Nathania | ||
| 11 - Not so Blinkered |
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| From: | paul scarratt <paulscarratt @ ntlworld.com> |
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| Date: | Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:13:45 -0000 |
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Dan's a
twat.
Get him
removed.
I rarely post to the digest, but I do enjoy reading the comments made but a diverse (if somewhat opinionated)
group of fans. DN, however, demonstrates all that is bad about this kind of
forum. How can anyone be so sick as to email a musician in such a way to
evoke the response posted by Eric today.
This is not meant as an 'I feel
sorry for GH' post, but I'm afraid I do. My personal opinion is that GH provides
an added dimension to the live band. To watch him play both subtley and with
unbridled passion and enthusiasm is a joy. I think he compliments MK in an
entirely different way to PG. His style is different and I prefer it
Live.
I for one am looking forward to the gigs this year.
Paul
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| 12 - DAN??????? |
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| From: | ALLAN ROBERTSON <allanmrobertson @ mail.com> |
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| Date: | Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:20:49 -0500 |
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| >But I am not gonna a) try to convert other people into >some kind of powergame, or b) berate player for >anything outside of what has to do with the workings >of 'L42'. >Breathe in, breathe out. >Formulate your thoughts and we can have a >'conversation'. >But come at me, or anyone,with arms flailing in the >air and spouting nonsense...well, son, you're gonna go >down, and go down hard. *** JT - I HAVE DISAGREED WITH WHAT U HAVE SAID IN THE PAST BUT U ARE RIGHT HERE --- AS FOR U DAN - SPEAK WITH UR MOUTH NOT THRU UR ARSE - GARY IS NOT ONLY INVOLVED WITH "LEVEL 42" BUT HAS DIFF PROJECTS - BUT BEFORE U SLAG HIM OFF GET UR FACTS STRAIGHT - MAYBE UR JEALOUS CAUSE HE HAS MADE IT AND U AINT -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup | ||
| 13 - Sigh, Okay, this is a LONG one |
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| From: | Dan Nesselroth <dnesselroth @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:45:31 -0800 |
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I definately wrote some harsh words in here. I am guilty of that, but at the heart of it all Gary Husband, by responding as he has to me and on this digest, may have isolated some fans and has displayed poor career judgement. Many jingoists here will simply defend the band member because he is the band member, but a few might get what I am saying. Firstly, I expressed my opinion on King's purchase of the name and Husbands presence in the band. Gary wrote me a nasty email that night. I responded, and posted his email in here...but it was ALREADY published on his website for public consumption. Anyhow, the person who picked it up and is SENDING him negative reveiws is NOT me. Gary threatened to SUE me for "libel". Gary, I cannot think of a MORE professional act than to threaten to SUE the fans! Libel is the act of publishing or publicly accusing someone of a criminal act. It is a fabrication. If I alleged that you were a pedophile...that would be libel...but negatively critiquing the body of work of a musician is not. I invite you to sue me so that you may make a public fool of yourself and give Level 42 a reputation for having so thin a skin that they would go after a disgruntled fan. I am sure Mark would pull in your leash really fast. I think Nick Rhodes of Duran Duran said it best: "The fans are our best sound board and our harshest critics. I love our website because we get instant feedback, and if they don't like something they are rabid about it and we take it seriously.". I think the point about the artist/fan relationship he is making is that the hardcore fans are not only there to stroke the artists ego, but to act as a test market of sorts. If they don't like something, they are probably right. I cannot think of something Level 42 has done which is quite as controversial as Marks application of the name Level 42 to this current band. This debate rages on in here and that should be an indication of the risks. This is what we fans on the digest are HERE for. If you want us to kiss your ass all the time and blindly worship you and whatever direction the band takes, you are bound to run into trouble. Level 42 has been around long enough to understand fan feedback, both positive and negative. I am sorry you feel slagged off, it must be hard on you...but what does it all mean?? If it bothers you, stop reading the digest and let Mark handle the fan-opinion side of things. Gary wrote me this morning. The tone of it reminds me of an angry teenager who storms out of the room. I am VERY tempted to post it up and vindicate myself but I will not out of PITY for Gary. I regret this whole thing too frankly, and although I am tempted, I think I will try to cease this drama after this posting in the digest. I will say that there are factors which have not been aired publicly here, including alcohol. Alright: Gary wrote THIS here yesterday: [from Gary Husband] Unfortunately, some cretin has been forwarding me copies, since late last year, of any amount of people writing letters to forums, basically just to slag me off - time after time after time again. According to the vast majority of these people, apparently, my efforts in Level 42 and input into this band, past or present, either in a playing capacity or a writing capacity isn't worth a piece of bird crap on the pavement. (I DON'T KNOW WHO THIS IS, BUT YEAH, THAT SUCKS. I PROMISE YOU IT IS NOT ME) Occasionally, I get foolishly motivated to check into these sites, just to see what all this stuff being said is exactly. After doing so I realise this thread is the general opinion of many. Stupidly enough, this latest splurge of bigoted, puritanical hatred of me stretched my (generally pretty even) tolerance level, and I played around on the computer inventing a little imaginary piece back to him, in response - just to vent my anger, and not intending in the least to post the thing. Unfortunately, my finger pressed "send now" and not "delete"!!!! I had drunk too much wine, and the moron got his response!! Ha ha. (MATURE. THE DIGEST NOT ONLY FOR FANS TO TALK..WE KNOW THE BAND READS IT FOR FEEDBACK. YOU ARE PROFESSIONAL? THEN ACT LIKE IT) Well, you know, never in 25 years of playing have I ever been subjected to the kind of abuse and disrespect I've received from people who follow this band - whether it's the original band from years ago, the later edition i was involved in or right through to the present situation. I play in this current touring thing because I have a good friend in Mark, and I like to play with him! I am a working musician and outside of my own solo endeavours I take on "working musician work", because that's what I do!! I also do it because Mark repeatedly asks me to it! What's more, Mark started asking me to do it as far back as 1985/6!!! I guess he likes the way I play! (SURE, AND HE MIGHT LIKE THAT HE CAN TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, UNLIKE PHIL. YOU ARE NOT KIDDING ANYONE, IMPLYING THAT YOU ARE IN IT ONLY FOR FUN. YOU MIGHT BE HAVING FUN, BUT IT IS STEADY WORK AND YOU ARE A FREELANCE DRUMMER. I AM SURE YOUR DAYS WITH LEVEL 42 WERE YOUR FLUSHEST...THAT WAS MY MONEY BY THE WAY...) I'm generally myself concerned with new music development, whether I'm working in other people's projects or the ones I pursue on my own, under my own name. This what my usual priority is. Not for anybody else would I really consider, (out of preference) playing old music. Particularly music written, performed and made famous by other people and contributors. This is the extent of my feeling for Mark, and quite honestly for the other musicians currently involved in this thing, because they, to me, all play very, very well for this thing, are totally committed performers, consummate professionals and altogether good people too. This is the only Goddamned retrospective thing I do. It takes up maybe 15% of my year, and I do it out of a good working relationship with people I like and care for. None of us are doing it to move any new air especially - there's no new music involved, so nobody's kidding themselves here, and none of us are under any illusions. We are doing it because MARK FEELS LIKE PLAYING (!) and, (apparently!) the benefit is felt by a lot of people who enjoy hearing this line-up play, people who quite like hearing those hits again, and for a lot of younger people who are getting a buzz out of hearing this stuff for the first time and who dig five committed musicians get a buzz going on-stage! It's no "deeper" than this. Certainly not for me ... and I certainly don't NEED it as a way (as some clown suggested) for me to able to get on-stage or get work!!! Nobody's pretending to be anybody here, or masquerading under anybody's name to get anywhere. We are just doing what we do: PLAY! It's playing specific stuff, yes - stuff other people wrote and made famous. (YOU KNOW, I CAN ALSO WATCH THE AUTOMATONS AT CHUCKECHEESE PLAY "HAPPY BIRTHDAY" 5 TIMES A DAY, OR A BUNCH OF BEATLES LOOK ALIKES PLAY "HEY JUDE" AT THE AMUSEMENT PARK, THIS IS NOT IMPRESSIVE.) In order to be true to it there's a lot of effort involved to kind of make it sound authentic, while not trying to be identical. Kind of like when I used to play in big bands and was required (to a degree) to evoke the original versions of hits other people played on. It's the only "retro" thing I do, and I have been panned into the ground by these die-hard "original band" fans until I can virtually sing that tired old song along with them! ( NOBODY EXCEPT FOR ME HAS REALLY PANNED YOU. I THINK THE CONSENSUS IS THAT THEY MISS PHIL. THIS IS YOUR FATE AS YOU ARE NOT A FOUNDING MEMBER. IT IS HARD TO FILL SHOES, AND AS ORIGINAL AS YOU ARE AND THE BAND WANT YOU TO BE, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE PHIL'S ABSENCE. I THOUGHT YOU WOULD HAVE GROWN USED TO THIS AND LEARNED TO GET OVER IT BY NOW)Oh well, it's a drag I guess for them. No, I'm not Phil Gould, and no I wasn't ever required or asked to be! Certainly not would I desire to be either! He was a fine drummer, and very original. I liked his playing very much. I guess, over the years, I seem to have generated a pretty fair standing of my own as a drummer, (unless people like Allan Holdsworth or Billy Cobham or John McLaughlin really have no idea of what they're talking about either!) (YES, AND TO PROVE THAT PEOPLE REALLY REALLY LIKE YOU, YOU POST THEIR POSITIVE COMMENTS ABOUT YOU ALL OVER YOUR WEBSITE. VERY TASTEFUL, VERY GROUNDED!) To all those people concerned reading this, basically, sorry I don't seem to make it for you "particularly"!! OK!!! (BULLSHIT, YOU ARE INCENSED AND WE KNOW IT. YOU ARE NOT FOOLING ANYBODY) When I first started working on an original new band with Allan Holdsworth back in 1980 we recorded all the definitive versions of many of his well known compositions - stuff he's still playing even now. Since those years I must have witnessed around as many as eight different drummers interpretations on those pieces from that first album. Am I disturbed by that? Even though I pretty much formed and composed the drum parts concerned myself? NO you idiots! (HEY FANS, HE JUST CALLED YOU "IDIOTS"! WHERE IS A RECORD COMPANY EXEC...OR BAND MANAGER WHEN YOU NEED ONE TO GAG THE TALENT??)I was proud of that work, and I feel proud many of my colleagues and contemporaries have come along and lent their own interpretation to what I did! It's only music ...........OK!!! Not something so precious, never to be touched again by anyone other than the original creators or contributors! Music can stay ALIVE with fresh breath and energy running through it's veins and it's structure. What IS it with you people!!!!??? (MUSIC IS DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. BUT THERE ARE TECHNICAL NUANCES UNIQUE TO EACH MUSICIAN...YOU CANNOT SIMPLY PLAY PHIL'S PARTS AND SOUND LIKE PHIL, EVEN THOUGH YOU BOTH PLAY DRUMS. MANY PEOPLE GO TO SHOWS OR LIKE A BAND NOT ONLY FOR THE MUSIC AND THE TABULATURE, BUT FOR THE WAY AN INDIVIDUAL ARTIST MAKES AN INSTURMENT RESONATE....THAT'S WHAT IT IS WITH US) I'd like to extend a wish towards all those concerned - those who mail me, slag me off and pan me, and all the rest of it. Please don't any of you attempt to line up outside the stage door on future concert performances with an idea about saying hello or chewing the fat again. I really have nothing to say to any of you.(VERY NICE.) In fact, I basically advise you to stay home and grow old with all your original level 42 CDs! There are plenty of people who DO want to come and hear this thing, (for however long it lasts, or for however long I find myself involved) who have a little bit of perspective, sense, and last but not least, some manners and some respect!!! (MANNERS...IF IT IS ANYTHING LIKE CALLING THE FANS "IDIOTS" AND REFUSING TO MEET THEM AT THE SHOWS, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR MANNERS.) Get over it!!! B.T.W. Dan Nesselroth, Neil Peart apparently seems to be a fan of mine!(THAT'S ODD, BECAUSE HE IS A MUCH BETTER PLAYER THAN YOU) Wow! Sincerely, Gary Husband _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail | ||
| 14 - Since we're talking about lyrics... |
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| From: | Andrea Smith <ardsmith @ ameritech.net> |
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| Date: | Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:38:54 -0800 (PST) |
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I agree about Trash - Mark's lyrics on that album are way ahead of any of his other lyrical works -but in my opinion, way, way behind the talent of Phil and Boon in that department and even Mike. Wow, my third digest post in a year....I need to play the lotto. I've made myself a L42 cd of all my favorite ballads, and I've been noticing that almost all of them, while beautiful lyrics, are all kind of dour. "Talking in your Sleep", "Out of Sight Out of Mind" (while not a ballad it fits the dour theme), "It's Over", "Overtime" all have some sort of dour look on romance and love in general. Even "Romance", which from the title one would think it would be a love song, has a 'you hurt me/I hurt you/we broke up really badly' type vibe. Don't get me wrong, there are some love songs mixed in, but I've noticed that there is a prevaling sense of a 'relationships are bad' mentality. Don't get me wrong, I'm not an overly sentimental person and I love a heartbreaking love song as much as the next person, but am I the only person that's noticed this?
Andrea
p.s. DN, you are an idiot. Just thought I'd let you know.
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| 15 - War in the World, War on the Digest |
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| From: | Monique Williams <mowllms @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Fri, 28 Mar 2003 22:32:57 -0800 (PST) |
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| Wow! One minute we`re on the subject of Old vs. New, next thing we know the drummer is getting hammered. As Smash Mouth says What the Hell Happened??!! Was that the next approach to the other side of the debate (personally attack the band members and have a BITCH session when that member chews your arse)? So many questions, so little time. Let`s not get carried away this stuff (in the real world there are things like WARS going on, or didn`t we notice.peace,mo __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com | ||
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