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  1 - Sounds least like Level 42 - Will Greer
  2 - Hello again.... - Lorraine Moore
  3 - Oh dear - Laurence Green
  4 - YCB - Willem
  5 - Useless Info. - Jonathan Veal
  6 - Tommy the Gresham Cat - jt
  7 - Re: Level 42 track that sounds LEAST like Level 42? - Alessandro
  8 - Social Comment - Waoh Bunty! - Steve Randall
  9 - El, VCD's, Cobly Bilham, and gold (in them there hills) - Eric J. Hansen
  10 - The Shipping News - Andrew Goodwin
  11 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE for 1/25/2003 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE

1 - Sounds least like Level 42
From: Will Greer <Will_Greer @ empowersolutions.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:48:48 -0700
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Eric said:

<<At This Great Distance (always sounded a bit like Rush to me).>>

I’ve always thought that too. Especially the end, which sounds a lot like
the end of “High Water” from the Hold Your Fire album.

My vote for the song that sounds least like Level 42 would be “If You Were
Mine”. I think Gary Husband wrote it – it doesn’t use any of the typical
bass grooves (“dum, da-da-dum, da-da-dum, da-da-dum”) or any of the
harmonies I’ve come to associate with the band.

-Will

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2 - Hello again....
From: Lorraine Moore <lorrainemoore_ @ hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:59:58 -0000
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Hi all,
Not that any of you will remember me - but I am back. Been back for a while, actually but quite enjoying 'lurking'...it is nice to see that the subject matter has not changed one iota since I left (when the Web Digest took over) so I guess I can pick up where I left off, and talk about nothing much in particular but have a bloody good laugh in the process! I have been particularly interested in the opinions about fave Level 42 tracks. It has always been my thought that 'The Chinese Way' is not the best track in the world - but 'simply the best thing I ever heard' live ;o) there are too many to mention in the 'fave' stakes but I will say that one of the worst, in my opinion, is 'Kouyate'. Actually, I had to go to my cassettes and dig out TC and found the tape was missing. Where did I leave that?
 
Love
Lozzie xx (Hi Alex ~)


3 - Oh dear
From: Laurence Green <laurence.green @ scottwilson.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:58:35 -0000
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More 'gold discs'!!!

Buyer beware!!!!!

No, I'm not bidding - and won't be bidding. You can get these done for £30, you really have to be careful. Two in a week, that's dodgy.

Re Polydor split - my theory. Polydor knew, as I do, that the loss of Phil and Boon although cosmetically did not seem to affect the band, in reality, destroyed it. You ended up with everything that was cosmetically Level 42, and about 40% of what was artistically Level 42.

See ya

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4 - YCB
From: Willem <willem.kirsti @ quicknet.nl>
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:19:54 +0100
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Did i mentioned YCB before ?
cant remember....
 
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5 - Useless Info.
From: Jonathan Veal <JVeal @ global-aero.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:17:51 -0000
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>Does anyone on this list play the saxophone - we could bore everyone by
>discussing mouthpieces and reeds!!!

I play the Bass Guitar and BASS TROMBONE - so we could discuss mouthpieces - the only problem with a Bass Trombone is that if you slap it you dent it........ and that gets expensive to repair............ Check out Dennis Rollins 'Badbone' - Great Trombone and Jazz Funk.....

Guaranteed Album - sounds cool when driving late at night - She Can't Help Herself - in my opinion (as I'm entitled too...) is a great song - The Ape - well I won't talk about that one.........
Drums stop very bad.....very bad.............. BASS SOLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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6 - Tommy the Gresham Cat
From: jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 04:23:11 -0800 (PST)
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> Okay...if Level 42 were to cover certain songs, what
> do you think they
> should be?

"Tommy the Cat" by Primus. MK could do some tapping
and slapping, Gary would have a blast, Nathan could
get discouraged cuz he can't solo as crisp as this and
L.C. can take a looonnnnnnng nap (Rip van Winkle
style).

> "what song do you think sounds LEAST like Level 42"?
> In this category,
> I would definitely nominate Gresham Man,

Yeah, that may be the one.
I'll never forget when I managed to get the CD single
to SatSun (before the album came out), this was way
before the 'information highway' got paved through my
life, so I have no idea how I knew it was out (I guess
I just pestered the shops) and I certainly didn't know
the Goulds had left. I was very excited to see an
instrumental on the CD (dont know how I knew this
without listening, maybe no 'lyric' or 'words' credit
was given). Upon listening I was...surprised. Just
didn't seem...right. Not that it's not a 'good' tune,
or whatever. But it is not the reason I buy Level42,
and I was also surprised MK would want to take things
in that direction.

j

7 - Re: Level 42 track that sounds LEAST like Level 42?
From: Alessandro <abollore @ hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:33:18 +0200
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I vote for "Take a Look". Great song, but no L42 sound at all.
Cheers,
mac

>I think this might actually be a brand new topic (!) Anyways, I actually
>do like Gresham Man, but it brings about yet another topic, which is
>"what song do you think sounds LEAST like Level 42"? In this category,
>I would definitely nominate Gresham Man, and probably also At This Great
>Distance (always sounded a bit like Rush to me). What do folks think?


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8 - Social Comment - Waoh Bunty!
From: Steve Randall <Steve.Randall @ mouchel.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:14:41 +0000
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Well done Dan Nesselroth for the interesting cover suggestions. LOL

I have to disagree with Bunty concerning worst songs.

I think I might say that all five she has chosen are not funk, and
perhaps this is why she doesn't like them. To strengthen this theory,
two of her chosen best tracks have no lyrics. However, I must agree
about man, the end bit should be a track on its own. I listened to that
bit for hours once.

However "Her Big Day" has lyrics of the standing of Ray Davies, that
master of social comment. It is a triumph of observation. Didn't
somebody on here intimate Mark has been married more times than the two
I know about? Of course as a musician, he has played at a few too, so
he's had plenty of chances to make such observations. Also there is no
reference to violence to women, so what have you been taking Bunty?

As for young Tracey, it is banal pop, but again there are great
observations in here, so what does Bunty want from a lyric? This story
would probably appeal to older digesters, as they start thinking of
school friends and looking back over their lives, looking for meaning,
and then joining Friends Reunited!.

I have noticed that successful songs usually have only one main idea
and expand of this. A banal chorus going round and round. Dance music is
especially bad in this respect. Songs with too much for the punters to
reflect on or a story line tend not to be so well recieved. (I'm sure
you can all think of exceptions, eg Space Oddity, Bohemian Rhapsody.)
When does a song become a recitative? Should the words rhyme? Will my
car start? Will the hero untie the girl before the train arrives? Will
my swelling go down before the weekend? Will the police find those files
on my hard drive? (enough of this.... Ed)

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9 - El, VCD's, Cobly Bilham, and gold (in them there hills)
From: Eric J. Hansen <ehansen @ worldmachine.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:39:33 -0500 (EST)
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Angel wrote:
> You should probably have said that the group, Debarge "ripped off" Level
> 42 though, since "People" came out in 83 before "Rhythm..." did in 85.

Whoops! An honest mistake, though, since I myself didn't hear "People"
until circa 1990, so I suppose this statement is only true in my perspective.

Lars wrote:
> I have even managed to download the video and audio, replace the audio
> in the video stream with the separate audio, sync it up reasonably good,
> just so I could burn a VCD of the gig. It runs for 39 minutes, and like
> the original poster said, if you're expecting Level 42 then you're in
> for a big shock.

I've gotta say that if it weren't for Level 42 (indirectly), then I would
never have known what a VCD or SVCD was ;)

Anyways, I haven't had the pleasure of hearing Gary's trio, but I did see
him with Billy Cobham last year. Gary played keyboards, and its safe to
say that there was absolutely, positively NO recollection of anything
even remotely Level 42. Of course, that being said (and tying in another
current Digest thread), I'd like to hear Level 42 (with Gary on Drums)
playing Cobham's STRATUS. Not sure how creative Mark or Gary could be
beyond the original version, but it would be an interesting tour de force.
But lets face it, Cobham and Sklar are gods of equal if not greater
stature than Husband and King [blasphemy!]. I'm not sure if Lee Sklar
actually played bass on the original Cobham track...? I digress.

AG doodles:
>>This is a matter of opinion, and from what I've seen since December,
>>every broadcast from the studios of WJAZ has been _only_ complaints.
>
>I wait all night for comments like these.

Clever, but obviously an intentional mis-quote. But I suppose if I
were looking for dolphins, Miami would be a reasonable starting point.


AND FINALLY, regarding all these GOLD albums we're seeing on eBay...
I think the next Digest project should be some sort of gold-plated
CDR or VCD ;) Maybe even bronzed. Hec, I'd buy a gold-plated
Levelfest t-shirt. Next thing you know, it'll be Joe P selling
the "platinum edition" of AYGB on eBay (speaking of which, did Level
42 ever have a platinum album?)

cheers,
Eric

10 - The Shipping News
From: Andrew Goodwin <nightfly83 @ hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 00:17:13 +0000
[top]
>1 - Could it be..........
>From: Tom Brown <tbrown @ britishsugar.co.uk>
>
>Damnation, just noticed that I started that last sentence with the word
"And"

So much for your famed schooldays.

>2 - Segregate the Madness or Playing the Same Thing Every Night is "Fun"
>From: jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com>
>
>Or, they are all nicely divisioned for those that
_dont'_ have "hours" to sift through things they dont
care about (monty py quotes, incog tour dates, etc)
and etc.

Come now, even the most pedestrian of readers can get through one of these
Digests in the time it takes to download a couple of threads of bored
housewives arguing over which of them fancies George Clooney the most, or
people comparing how many hits on search engines their names bring up. The
boy Hansen has even added a handy numbered index system so we can all go
straight to/past the latest posting from our most anticipated/loathed
enthusiast/wit/illiterate. Personally I read it all because you never know
what you might learn. Anyhow, if you like the Web Digest, all power to you.
Some people like Marmite.

>7 - live aid - sorry Mike
>From: Jeoff42 @ aol.com <Jeoff42 @ aol.com>
>
>I can confirm - I saw the programme 'liquid News' on BBC choice a few weeks
>ago and Mark King did say that Level 42 were initially invited to Live Aid
>then 'slipped down the ladder'.

How bizarre. I wonder at what point that particular piece of history was
re-written. Perhaps all will be revealed on the new album 'Bird', being
composed as I write. Not that Mark King can't be trusted as a reliable
source or anything.

>11 - Back To Normal
>From: Brian Flint <wolfbard @ hotmail.com>
>
>Your reward is to be first in line to sign up for whatever new format is
>create based on the wankers.

That little blip of Flintian coherence has long gone, I see. Back to
abnormal more like.

AG

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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 05:50:43 -0500
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