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Monday, March 03, 2003 |
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| Topics for Monday, March 03, 2003 1 - reply to Tuesday or Dear DJ - jt 2 - Handbags at dawn - paul scarratt 3 - Business as usual - DonZipf @ aol.com 4 - Something About You video - Colinsladden @ aol.com 5 - (no subject specified) - MindSpring User 6 - Ot-John Mayer - Veen, Willem van der 7 - Wednesday and Thursday - jt 8 - Completely Off Topic-Simply Red - Veen, Willem van der 9 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE for 3/3/2003 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE |
| 1 - reply to Tuesday or Dear DJ |
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| From: | jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Sun, 2 Mar 2003 09:33:42 -0800 (PST) |
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| DJ, > How many classically trained keyboard players are > slagging of Lyndons abilities? I think they have other things to think/talk about about. One would have to think the answer would be, "Lyndon who?" >How many > accomplished, experienced sax players are slagging > of Sean? See above. >You should remember that MK chose > these guys to be in his band - therefore to question > their abilities, is to question his ability to > audition quality musicians good enough to play that > material. Yes, I heavily question MK's ability to audition. > but I know talent when I see/hear it! Fantastic, I'll send you a congratulatory gift. This statement is as "valid" as my saying I know bad singing and lame solos when I hear it. But you seem to be enjoying this, so we can continue... >I can find no fault, I > always enjoy watching and listening to them. Wonderful, but (here you were talking about Grupo MK (ie. pre-Cover 42), which is fine, but you may be thinking I am "slagging" people due to a band name, which I am not. The name means little to nothing, it's all about the sounds)if you find "no fault" with some seriously bad singing (and I will leave out comments about lame solos) in the early DVDs, well, then you have "no" barometer to judge what is good. > I think it would be > interesting to hear what a combined effort would > sound like, and that to me is VERY exciting! Certainly, and while it seems that it may not happen, and I do think there is somehting to say about it not happening as of yet, and also feel that since no creative spark has happened in over 4 years this will cause the (if there is any) new material to be very forced...but, we'll see. cheers, j __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ | ||
| 2 - Handbags at dawn |
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| From: | paul scarratt <paulscarratt @ ntlworld.com> |
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| Date: | Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:57:31 -0000 |
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Who got out of their pram then?
Dan Nesselroth wrote:
"Now, for all you morons getting
angry with me for being critical of Mark
Kings new Level 42 project:" If you do not like the criticism of your
blinkered, naive comments then don't post them. However, in an
attempt
to be constructive, your argument falls
apart on the basis that you are assuming that "Mark King would
EXPLOIT
the name of Level 42 to cut corners with
promotion of his NEW band." It is this assumptive cynicism that I take
objection to. Is this comment based on fact?
Have I missed something? I, for one, am prepared to cut the guy
some slack. If your comments bare fruit in
the future, then I'll tip my hat to you for your foresight.
Remember, to ASSUME makes an
ASS out of U.
Paul
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| 3 - Business as usual |
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| From: | DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Sun, 2 Mar 2003 15:03:19 EST |
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| Dan Nesselroth wrote: > Imagine Paul McCartney today going out and getting 3 unknown musicians > and calling them "The Beatles"..imagine the outrage! Would it be justified? The difference here is that George and Ringo did not leave the band while John and Paul carried on for another 7 years, and then John did not sell his share of the brand name to Paul years later. What you critics seem to forget is that, however sentimental we are about our favorite band, the name "Level 42" ultimately is a brand name which represents a BUSINESS, and that three of the original partners in that business sold their shares, leaving only Mr. King. And that's all there is to it. Andrew Goodwin wrote: > Before the McCartney lynch-mob kicks into gear, obviously he's produced next > to nothing of worth since 1980. But then, John Lennon hadn't made an album > for five years before 1980, and when he did finally resurface it was with the > sentimental claptrap which constituted Double Fantasy - exactly the sort > of material for which McCartney is derided. Well said, AG. Bravo! > Pop music has been about image since the day Elvis Presley first shook > his hips on TV. I'm surprised you haven't all dealt with it yet. If you want > skilled instrumentalists, let me direct you to the 'Jazz' section of your > local record emporium. But there was a time when instrumentalists were as highly regarded as singers, and we had pop heroes like Mark King, Edward Van Halen, Mark Knofpler, Ray Charles, Greg Allman, Dickie Betts, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, on & on. Where are today's musos? Today, it seems that it's ONLY about singers, and only vocally masturbating R&B singers at that! Peace - Z. | ||
| 4 - Something About You video |
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| From: | Colinsladden @ aol.com <Colinsladden @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:40:15 EST |
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| Hi all does anyone know what MK is saying near the end of the video, on the train he mouths something but I can not work it out if you know please reply. all the best Colin | ||
| 5 - (no subject specified) |
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| From: | MindSpring User <jlkd @ mindspring.com> |
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| Date: | Sun, 2 Mar 2003 17:27:26 -0500 |
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Hey Levellers....
Though it would be
nice to see all the originals back
again....We can't be picky....Come to the
States Mark !!!! We do not care who
is playing the Minimoog, flugelhorn
etc....
Regards
JD from ATL | ||
| 6 - Ot-John Mayer |
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| From: | Veen, Willem van der <w.van_der_veen @ services.nedtrain.nl> |
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| Date: | Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:52:07 +0100 |
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> Same with John Mayer. The record companies decry lost CD sales and then I do agree with Don on this; I believe Win was the one who was pointing the finger to John. I downloaded some tracks, and not long after that I decided to buy the album. It is a great album ( my fav "neon") and im planning to buy the first release of his acoustic album as well. I did not know he played that short time; I knew he dropped out of Berklee; he found more pleasure in making music then study it. Check out this guy as he is an exception to the rule !! | ||
| 7 - Wednesday and Thursday |
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| From: | jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 3 Mar 2003 01:54:54 -0800 (PST) |
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| Wednesday >Dj wrote "MK once said that a fan came > up to him when releasing Influences, and said "I can > play all your stuff note for note"! MK responded, > "So where's your solo album then"? - Good response, > take the hint?". The more I think about this the more pathetic I see it, while I understand the meaning of the quote (which can be interpretted in a variety of ways) of the situation, it in no way is applicable to the argument (if we can call it that) DJ was posting. The memebers being "slagged" have no albums, so, if I am to "take the hint" (?!) am I merely supposed to organize a cover band and do poor-to-fair renditions of old tunes?? >- Both Sides > From: dean.osborn @ bt.com < Dean, some outstanding points. Nice job. >I'm a professional music > listener matey and that gives me every right... Pete, I gotta say, this is the stupidest thing I've read in some time. ------------------------------------------------------ Thursday >just a > shame that some folks can't be a little more > friendly and constructive in > the process. a) I am not here to make friends, that said, clearly some of you are easily insulted, I am not here to make enemies. b) While my posts are always typed out in a rush at work they are some of the only "constructive" posts here. Far more "constructive" than any of the (very) lame 'they are great' and etc type posts. You clammer for answers, I touch upon them, then get retorts that this is not enough. My goal is not intelligent responses back (seemingly impossible), but merely to make one think. I do terribely believe that a major majority seems this band as far more than a band, and that impaires vision (and thought). > If you want to talk about " Kiddie pop ", take a > look at the UK charts at > the moment, not Mark King's band ! Um, well, you seem to forget that the whole point of a tune like "Forever Now" (or was this in ref to "the Sunbed Song"?) was to try to get into that mass-sucksess radio market. It's a bloody pop song!! So comparing this to most of the pap on the charts, all that is of note is that most of the stuff on the radio is a tad bit better written (although equally vapid, lame and boring) and certianly better produced. We're talking The Big Picture here folks. The Industry of music... >Next thing you know, > Mark King will tour in a clown suit, making balloon > animals, calling it a > "Level 42" tour. Oye! Well, I guess this will take some of the heat of my back! ;) Ok, enough of this crap...for an off-topic: if some are craving to see some good to live musik, Steve Smith (those thinking pop music is the only music will know him as Journey's drummer), most certainly one of the top 3 drummers in the world, his band Vital Information is on the road, still in Europe and then heading to, I think, the West Coast. Baron Browne laying down some amazingly smooth pocket playing on bass. Saw them the other night and was pleased to see a band thinking and having sincere fun. j __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ | ||
| 8 - Completely Off Topic-Simply Red |
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| From: | Veen, Willem van der <w.van_der_veen @ services.nedtrain.nl> |
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| Date: | Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:41:35 +0100 |
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Any comments on the recent
release of Simply Red's "new"single ( sunrise)wich is off course a complete rip
off Hall and Oates ?
Somehow i spot here a
summer hit in spe !
If you take a look at the
website of SR then you can see there are more covers on the new album called
"Home".
What would you guys think
of Simply doing a 42 track fi LMN or its over ?
cheers
willem
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