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Monday, January 27, 2003 |
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| Topics for Monday, January 27, 2003 1 - Disclaimers - response to Lord Eric of Digest - mikethepom 2 - Level Best - mikethepom 3 - weird world machine - Winston Walker 4 - What A Shame About AG - Colin Gupta 5 - PHIL WAS ALWAYS RIGHT!! - Dan Nesselroth 6 - Gresham Blues - kndstreet 7 - Guaranteed defense - DonZipf @ aol.com 8 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE for 1/27/2003 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE |
| 1 - Disclaimers - response to Lord Eric of Digest |
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| From: | mikethepom <mikethepom @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Sun, 26 Jan 2003 04:32:17 -0800 (PST) |
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| [[ Digest Admin note from Eric: Mike, most of those disclaimers are added automatically by peoples' outbound mail systems. Look at your Yahoo signature, above - case in point ... ]] Appreciate your response, Eric, but I'm talking about workplace-related e-signatures, which often include lengthy disclaimers. These are added automatically only when set up to do so by the user and can be highlighted and deleted in two seconds before hitting 'Send'. Look back over the last couple of digests and there are some glaring examples where the e-signature is about as big as the actual message. I know there's nothing we can do about the Hotmail and Yahoo footers, but they're tiny by comparison. Anyway, everyone knows all this - I'm just making a point and I don't want to turn this into a big thing. My other message (this digest) is the Level 42-related one! Cheers ~ Mike (Sydney City Milkman) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com | ||
| 2 - Level Best |
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| From: | mikethepom <mikethepom @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Sun, 26 Jan 2003 04:53:09 -0800 (PST) |
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| I don't have a problem with either Gary Husband or Alan Murphy, but ... ... I always considered it a bit rude that Level Best only carries pics of 'version 2' (Mark, Mike, Gary, Alan). They make one album, supplying 3 tunes for the Best Of and get their heads all over it! To make it worse, on the inside cover it says "Level 42 are ... Mark King, Mike Lindup, Gary Husband, Alan Murphy" The fact is that, in relation to 15 of the songs, they're only 50% right. Just had to get that off my chest. Any thoughts? Cheers ~ Mike (Sydney City Milkman) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com | ||
| 3 - weird world machine |
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| From: | Winston Walker <winman42 @ comcast.net> |
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| Date: | Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:11:13 -0500 |
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| Dave, Polygram added those 2 TRUE COULORS tracks, in the hopes that it would make the WM album much better for the US audience..since they were trying to break L42 in the states. I guess they figured those tracks were huge hits in the UK, so why not lop them on the us release. They also had plans to release all the albums on vinyl in the states, but changed their mind after making test pressings of them all, including a never released 'greatest hits' album that included tracks from 'The Early Tapes'. Oddly enough i never purchased the USA release, because i had been getting all my level goodies on import when they were released in the UK. So it wasnt until years later when i joined the digest that i found out the tracks list had been changed. Win | ||
| 4 - What A Shame About AG |
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| From: | Colin Gupta <thegoop @ sympatico.ca> |
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| Date: | Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:06:22 -0600 |
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| Greetings. I like People more than Turn It On. Andrew, I'm certain Cindy Lauper (and countless others) have many worse songs than People. Instead of Level 42 covering other bands, what about a new tribute album of Level 42; Ozzy Ozborne doing Something About You; Britney doing The Chinese Way, Lenny Kravitz doing Starchild.... A bass album with Mark and Stanley might be intersting. I also think Shapeshifter and TPOA are far superior tracks from TPOA than The Chinese Way. TCW may sound uplifting and may be a real crowd pleaser (I do like it, it's just not awesome). As far as new Level 42 material, I would love to hear some new jazz funk. Hard core slap with tasty jazz from drums and keys and rhythm guitar chords and of course sax. In the absence of this, I completely love JK. I am a real late comer, but think this guy is a musical genius, who is unparalleled today. I cannot think of one entry I would skip past. I do like hip hop/jazz and house beat stuff like DJ greyboy (Freestylin), St Germain (Boulevard), The New Deal or Bullfrog (hiphop funk). Can anyone recommend other stuff like this? Colin | ||
| 5 - PHIL WAS ALWAYS RIGHT!! |
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| From: | Dan Nesselroth <dnesselroth @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Sun, 26 Jan 2003 07:58:38 -0800 |
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Eric, you are right about Garunteed and the convulsions of the band between Staring and Garunteed.....Forever Now was good and it was good because Phil attended it. This probably meant a swing in morale that is never mentioned, although clearly Mark defers to Phil and Boon for things truly "Level". Phil always maintained that the band became blinded to artistic integrity because of pop ambition. He only got uncomfortable BEING in Level 42 when they began to try and write top ten hits...call it "selling out" around World Machine, although some might say it began around True Colours. He wanted a FUNK band, he wanted to be true to his muse and the natrual equilibrium of Level 42, which was prodigious FUNK. He also said that Level 42 could have survived on it's brit funk niche with the fan base they already had, and yet Polydor and perhaps Mark himself were more interested in FAME over art. I am not saying change is not good, because material from Running and World is quite good...but the problem is that the pop world is fickle and easily bored. The inevitable result is that a pop band becomes old fast, but a talented niche band can last forever. Few..even Level 42...can achieve what the Beatles and the Stones have..suddenly you find yourself being asked "Didn't you used to be..?"...but before that come the sad attempts to maintain the pop marketability that signify the death of a band. The title track of Garunteed BLEEDS Level 42 self-parody. It's as if they were trying to re-write "Lessons In Love". I personally find myself listening to The Early Tapes,Level 42, Pursuit, and Forever Now more than the rest of the work because of the musicianship of it, not catchy hooks and 3 minute love lost tunes. Being a Gould enterprise, you would think the rest could have trusted Phil and Boon with the "direction" of Level 42. That is just my opinion. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail | ||
| 6 - Gresham Blues |
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| From: | kndstreet <kndstreet @ ntlworld.com> |
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| Date: | Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:44:12 -0000 |
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Personally, I love Gresham Blues.
Possibly because of the era that the album
came out ( I was 15 and travelling to school on the bus each day with the
Staring at the Sun album playing over & over again in my walkman). It is
nice sometimes to just sit and stare out of the window with a nice lyric-less
song taking you along.
In fact, the whole album for me is just terrific.
In the end, I wore out my tape!
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| 7 - Guaranteed defense |
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| From: | DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Sun, 26 Jan 2003 19:01:02 EST |
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| > Was it Polydor, BMG or Warner Chappell who got Mark and Mike teamed > up with George Green and Drew Barfield.... and imho managed to produce > some of the biggest dross in the whole L42 repertoire. It seemed like an > emergency act that backfired. The telling measure of all of this is the fact > that few, if any, 'Guaranteed' tracks have been played at the live performances > this last couple of years. I know it's only a personal opinion based on my rather > bias anti-'Guaranteed' ravings, but to me there's only one decent song on the > album and thats 'My Fathers Shoes' . MFS seems a strange choice for the "one decent song" award, but different strokes for different folks, eh? To me the best songs are "If You Were Mine" (which requires a five-string bass) and "Lasso the Moon" (which requires Mike, not to mention an MB1 bass synth). Perhaps those are the reasons we don't hear them live. :o\ Peace - Z. | ||
| 8 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE for 1/27/2003 |
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| Date: | Mon, 27 Jan 2003 05:50:42 -0500 |
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