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Monday, February 10, 2003 |
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| Topics for Monday, February 10, 2003 1 - Responses! - David Buddy 2 - Fw: Whining at the sun? - tonydunne1 3 - 42 bashing - Martyn Fanko 4 - Guarunteed - Andy Kennedy 5 - World Machine - Dave Mock 6 - Mr Holland's Opus - Andrew Goodwin 7 - SoCal LevelFest...you guys are awesome! - Maurice Shannon 8 - the downfall of modern society - Eric J. Hansen 9 - royalties - dean.osborn @ bt.com 10 - Nik Kershaw - Stephen.Whyte @ lpc.tv 11 - Listening to the Sun _far_ more damaging that Staring - jt 12 - I haven't finished aping you all! - Steve Randall 13 - FM - Andrew Goodwin 14 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE for 2/10/2003 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE |
| 1 - Responses! |
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| From: | David Buddy <davidbuddy @ blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date: | Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:27:17 -0000 |
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Hi folks,
Glad to see my recent e-mail ‘struck home’ with a couple of you guy’s. I‘ve read the responses, and you are completely correct in saying that we all have our own opinions and are therefore entitled to have our say.
Well that’s great folks, I had mine and you’ve had yours, everyone happier now?? Also, picking out the highs and the lows of a twenty year career just hasn’t occurred to me, sorry about that! I just appreciate the lot. Does it really make a blind bit of difference anyway?
As for the comments about the True Level 42 fan, I don’t really regret saying that but hey you’re right, we’re all fans! Why else do we come to this site and voice our opinions so much.
Sorry for sounding ‘narky’ in my last e-mail, it wasn’t my intention, honest.
See ya, Davy (One of the many True Level 42 fans)..is that better??
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| 2 - Fw: Whining at the sun? |
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| From: | tonydunne1 <tonydunne1 @ madasafish.com> |
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| Date: | Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:37:47 -0000 |
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----- Original Message -----
From: tonydunne1
To: Level 42 Digest
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:34 PM
Subject: Whining at the sun? HELLO!
HELLO!
Please can anyone tell me why certain subscribers to this site feel they have
the right to tell people that they are listening to music that is
inferior?
Surely people have minds of their own and what
one person thinks is good another may think is not. I caught L42 at a gig late
last year and it was excellent. MK was there along with some other TALENTED
MUSICIANS. You can't bring back the original lineup so my advise is, please
let us know your opinion, it's greatly appreciated and very interesting,
but move on and post some positive messages please.
Excellent site with some interesting forthright
people on it.
Tony | ||
| 3 - 42 bashing |
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| From: | Martyn Fanko <mfanko @ wideopenwest.com> |
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| Date: | Sun, 9 Feb 2003 10:43:58 -0500 |
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ok, freedom of speech and all that is fine, but
bashing albums that you don't like by what is supposedly one of your favourite
bands is becoming tiring and to be honest, a little worrying. who cares
that they made staring at the sun and guaranteed??? the fact that a band
that we so love had a very successful career for more than a decade should be
enough. most bands don't last 5 mins in this industry. also, mark
king is back under the name of level 42!! what a fantastic thing!
not only is that band incredible and reminds me of the early level 42, the real
point is that the music is still out there being played live, new music is being
recorded and the name and sound of level 42 is being brought back and
celebrated. why on earth should we focus our attention on the albums that
we don't like as much when there are a huge amount of albums and singles and
videos to satisfy the level 42 fan, not to mention the new stuff that i
personally am very thankful for. if i were mark king, and if i read the
last week's worth of digest messages, i would be wondering why on earth i went
back to my roots if those "fans" i thought i had are 42 bashing and complaining about what i am doing now.
ok, so maybe i went a little far, but guys, please,
let's celebrate the band, not knock them for decisions that were made by people
we don't know. maybe they had no choice, maybe the record company edged
them into a direction they didn't want to go. maybe they DID decide to go
in a new direction - who cares! it's good music and that's what
counts.
i love level 42 for their jazz/funk era, yes,
but hell, i'll listen to the later stuff over most of the crap that's out there
today.
thank you and remember they are great people who
live for music and love what they do and i wish i was in their
position.
martyn fanko
interCHEMISTRY
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| 4 - Guarunteed |
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| From: | Andy Kennedy <andy @ amk.uklinux.net> |
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| Date: | Sun, 09 Feb 2003 19:58:01 +0000 |
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| >Why is Guaranteed the most talked about album on the digest? Answer - >because it's not just the poorest and least Level42-like Level 42 album, >but it's the poorest by some long way, and it sits incongruously alongside >some classy albums. Guaranteed is not poor, it is different. With a Little Love has one of the coolest grooves. AMK | ||
| 5 - World Machine |
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| From: | Dave Mock <dfmock @ rocketmail.com> |
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| Date: | Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:09:15 -0800 (PST) |
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| Hey, Micro-Kids: Considering the news these days, I'm starting to crank up the vocal version of "Coup d'Etat" from UK "World Machine" more and more. That song kicks...and the lyrics are still relevant. TCOY, The Duke ===== "...brotherhood is not so wild a dream as those who profit by postponing it pretend." (Norman Corwin) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com | ||
| 6 - Mr Holland's Opus |
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| From: | Andrew Goodwin <nightfly83 @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Sun, 09 Feb 2003 23:13:27 +0000 |
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| >6 - Level 42 @ Sherwood Forest >From: GJWillett @ aol.com < GJWillett @ aol.com> > >HOT NEWS! Level 42 will be playing an open air concert in Sherwood Forest >on June 14th as part of this year's Concert in the Forest. Also playing at >the 3 day long weekend event will be Status Quo on the 13th and Jools >Holland on the 15th. Status Quo AND Jools Holland?! I know the all-new Level 42 isn't to everybody's taste, but who did they upset to get themselves sandwiched between two such paragons of tediously repetitive, if-it-ain't-broke-don't-fix-it drivel? AG _________________________________________________________________ Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=186&DI=1059 | ||
| 7 - SoCal LevelFest...you guys are awesome! |
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| From: | Maurice Shannon <Level42man @ netscape.net> |
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| Date: | Sun, 09 Feb 2003 16:41:01 -0800 |
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First and foremost (cliché!), I would like to thank Zak & Leslie for opening up their home. My L42 experience has largely been one of a private nature (at home, in the shower, in my car). I never knew how extensive the fan loyalty was. To all that attended, you are THE nicest group of people I have ever met. Good jam....Adam w/his superb "chops". Thanks to Winston for a rich multimedia experience, and to all my fellow technical gurus'. I look forward to the next gathering. Perhaps I'll tap out Wally Badarou next time (I'm a little shy). -maurice Maurice Shannon Pres. & CTO Shannon Media Technologies | ||
| 8 - the downfall of modern society |
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| From: | Eric J. Hansen <ehansen @ worldmachine.com> |
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| Date: | Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:21:40 -0500 (EST) |
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| Jay Traci wrote: >> Subject: Fwd: FW: In Memoriam >> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 15:29:18 -0600 > > How the hell did that slip by, Eric? dunno... I think this was intentionally forwarded by Monique. If not, then I blame society at large for spam and UCE. Colin Gupta wrote: > Hey did the guys do drugs and have groupies and stuff? Aha, finally some "controversial" topics. Goodie. I think we can assume they had groupies, although perhaps not the same time that Van Halen or Motley Crue had. Re: drugs, I believe that Mark used to be an alcoholic (wasn't that the whole interview spiel in Fait Accompli?) but I don't know about actual drugs per se... wasn't there a story about Boon and Mike coming up with the name "Level 42" while smoking pot in a parking garage in NYC or something? cheers, Eric | ||
| 9 - royalties |
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| From: | dean.osborn @ bt.com <dean.osborn @ bt.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:45:14 -0000 |
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| >>Furthermore, the recent Mark King outing as Level 42 will have silently >>generated income for Mark, Phil, Mike, Boon & Wally Badarou in the form of >>P.R.S. royalties from each venue for each Level 42 song that they had >>writing credits on. I bet you Mark will have filled in his P.R.S. returns >>form for each venue! Royalty distribution is a bit more complex than I have >>just outlined, but it doesn't stop after albums can no longer be purchased. >>Regards >>Nick Good points Nick, I hadn't thought of those. I guess the whole Royalties this IS more complex than I thought. I guess there are quite a few Level 42 comps out there also which Boon, Mike, Wally, Phil etc...get some nifty royalties from those too. Different countries seem to have diff comps as well. Dean | ||
| 10 - Nik Kershaw |
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| From: | Stephen.Whyte @ lpc.tv <Stephen.Whyte @ lpc.tv> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:30:57 +0000 |
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I've got Nik Kershaws albums on vinyl but would like to get copies on cd. If anyone is willing to burn me copies, please email me privately. Naturally, I'll cover all costs. Cheers Steve *************************************************************************** This email is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, you are in notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person: to do so could be a breach of confidence. Thank you for your co-operation. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of The RTL Group or its associated companies. Please contact our IT Helpdesk on +44 (0)20 7691 6996 or e-mail support.it @ fremantlemedia.com if you require further assistance. *************************************************************************** | ||
| 11 - Listening to the Sun _far_ more damaging that Staring |
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| From: | jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 02:29:08 -0800 (PST) |
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| >Indeed, I'm a bit bemused to see Guaranteed lumped in >together so often with >Staring At The Sun, a flawed but definitely superior >album. AG, Shirley you jest... I gotta go more with Dan's breakdown, although he wasn't harsh enough!. AG, slap the CD in, give it the ol' breakdown, I'd do it but I'm still impaired from the last listening... j __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com | ||
| 12 - I haven't finished aping you all! |
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| From: | Steve Randall <Steve.Randall @ mouchel.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:31:09 +0000 |
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| Let's not start on SATS yet. I've only just listed to Guaranteed over the weekend, and am still collecting my thoughts. I was busy however and couldn't write anything down. However Ape thoughts. Interesting lyric about evolution, though only some lines were coherent, OK it's not a story. One can picture Australopithecine Lucy trudging across the Seregheti, or whatever it was way back then. Its an interesting track in that it is all percussion, with strange jazzy brass breaks. I would think that is is all Mark, featuring those roto-toms he was left with after the 15 nights at the Appollo. I think he may actually like this track himself for that. However, you'll never hear it live now after the slating! I hope, as a joke, Mark announces it as a number on the next tour, just to see the jaws drop in the front row. It probably really belongs on Trash as its all Mark. You could actually dance to it! While going through the CD pile I found that promo CD by the YchromoBoys. I quite enjoyed it. Competant playing. But as I thought at the time I got it, they need a singer. The information in this e-mail is confidential and intended to be solely for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain copyright and/or legally privileged information. If you are not the addressee (or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee) please e-mail us at postmaster @ mouchel.com and delete the message from your computer; copying, distribution, use or disclosure of its contents is strictly prohibited. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption no responsibility is accepted for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice contained in any e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. In addition, no liability or responsibility is accepted for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Please note that for business purposes, outgoing and incoming emails from and to the company may be monitored and recorded. Mouchel Consulting Ltd, Registered Office : West Hall, Parvis Road, West Byfleet, Surrey UK KT14 6EZ Registered No : 1686040 | ||
| 13 - FM |
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| From: | Andrew Goodwin <nightfly83 @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:34:59 +0000 |
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| Thought this might be of interest to some people here, not least tomorrow's edition: http://www.npr.org/programs/pianojazz/upcomingguests.html Unfortunately, since Britain isn't yet officially the 51st state of the USA, I won't be able to hear it myself. AG _________________________________________________________________ Chat online in real time with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk | ||
| 14 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE for 2/10/2003 |
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| Date: | Mon, 10 Feb 2003 05:50:46 -0500 |
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