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Friday, October 03, 2003 |
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| Topics for Friday, October 03, 2003 1. Pom words - Jeff Mahoney 2. Well that sorted me out - Pete Willis 3. Letter from Mark King - Pete Willis 4. New Thread -- Digester Bio and such. - Sean D. Green 5. Hell, was the "god squad" - Matthew T. Blackmon 6. Give the guy a break! - Mr David F Jacobs 7. The Digest - DonZipf @ aol.com 8. Our L42 cd stashes ... - mikethepom 9. + MARKETPLACE - Level 42 Digest 10. + WEB DIGEST SUMMARY - Level 42 Digest |
| 1. Pom words |
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| From: | Jeff Mahoney <jeffm @ cia.com.au> |
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| Date: | Thu, 2 Oct 2003 19:33:57 +1000 |
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Nice One Pom .could'nt agree More
Love ya..........
Cheers From Sydney
An Impeccable Groove
Jeff
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| 2. Well that sorted me out |
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| From: | Pete Willis <peteburywillis @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:39:57 +0100 |
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Erm thanks to Mike the Pom and jt
Very persuasive arguments there boys (not) and
a nice attitude to go with it.
Very condescending and funnily enough both of you are coming across exactly the same as what you are accusing me
of!
Sure it was tossed into the ring by AG as a bit of
fun, but I felt like giving a response from MY own point of view.
Hey guys, I have been beaten up, laughed at,
ridiculed etc. etc. etc. most of my life for being a Christian so your attack on me is not anything new.
I can happily handle it though wonder why you would
both react so venomously if what I said really did mean nothing at
all.
Quote from Mike
The problem I have with the
'god squad' generally is they cannot take responsibilty for their own lives. And they think their faith is too sacred to debate, instead taking on a smug 'I know better than you' air. Absolutely the opposite for me, you couldn't be
more wrong.
Why the generalisation on your debate
comment.?
Is that based on personal experience, because the
vast majority of Christians I know will happily debate their faith anytime at
all.
Feel free to email me anytime and I will debate
away with you!!!!
Let's just say I'm wrong, what are the consequences
for me? I die and nothing.
However if I dare suggest this, what if you are
wrong? Think of your absolute worst nightmare and multiply it by a billion and
you still won't be close.
You won't get smugness from me. I fail every single
day and as much a sinner as anyone.
However you won't
take away my faith and certainty no matter how many sticks and stones you hurl
my way
Pete
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| 3. Letter from Mark King |
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| From: | Pete Willis <peteburywillis @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:56:59 +0100 |
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I too got that 'letter' from Mark with a slight
alteration!
Quote. but somehow Ipswich stands out as something really
special.
Replace Ipswich with Plymouth and I suspect every
other venue depending on who the letter is sent to and the gig they
attended!!!!.
Good really, that means Mark enjoyed every single
night as a really special occasion!
Seriously, I'm looking forward to the Plymouth gig
and the Wife is even coming with me this year. Her first concert since 1987 and
I'm sure she will enjoy it
I hope they vary the track list from last year to
give it variety for all those that went then.
Howevere just to underline the importance that the
band have to do a fair number of hits though, my Wife would be expecting to hear
those.
There must be many many people going for just
the same reason so us regulars will just have to accept it and enjoy the hits
again!
cheers
Pete
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| 4. New Thread -- Digester Bio and such. |
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| From: | Sean D. Green <seandgreen @ earthlink.net> |
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| Date: | Thu, 02 Oct 2003 07:03:53 -0500 |
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After sifting through some remnants of the old digest, I came across some
of our old BIOs. Albeit mine has changed somewhat after 5 years,
and I thought it might make for a temporary rejuvenation of chatter on
this line that would provide at least something of "value" whilst we wait
to discuss Lindup's new CD once out.
Hope you all are well in life, and enjoying it to the fullest. ~Sean FULL NAME: Sean David Green
L42 DIGEST MEMBER SINCE: Sometime in 95 or 96 I think.
CD's I'D GRAB BEFORE EMBARKING ON A LONG ROAD TRIP:
FAVOURITE FOOD: Anything Middle Eastern and Mexican. Definitely,
NOT American food!
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| 5. Hell, was the "god squad" |
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| From: | Matthew T. Blackmon <segoy @ firesermon.com> |
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| Date: | Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:31:16 -0400 |
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Mike the Pom
quoth:
> What typical
parochial Christian bollocks! You were
> there, were you? I know for just as certain that there > is no god, no higher being, no heaven, no hell, no > afterlife. . . Actually, I can
confirm that there is a Hell. I happen to be listening to it as I type, and the
boys sounded great. :)
I, for one, would
hope that if the main list does not survive this most recent catharsis of the
never-ending lifecycle of mailing lists (search the archives for Sarah
McLaughlin and lifecycle), then I pray that, at-least some part of it survives
in the form of what had been the ILF list of yesteryear. While I do enjoy
keeping up with the goings on of the artists together and severally identifying
themselves as Level 42, in one guise or another, if it didn't come to me in my
mailbox, I'd never hear another word of it.
Alas, there are too
many things pulling in too many directions for me to log onto the web digest and
try to wade through the noise for signal.
And now I'll go back
to lurking.
M
(Zaphod) | ||
| 6. Give the guy a break! |
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| From: | Mr David F Jacobs <man_of_funk @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:32:24 +0100 |
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| Chaps Hey come on - give Pete a break here, he had the courage to come out and air his faith to others, which is not easy!. If he got it out of context, fair enough. That takes guts - it doesn't take any guts to start saying "Smell the shit" or "you're on your own in this world". If that's your views, fine I respect that, but your comments are pretty hurtful to someone with a faith, he wasn't being nasty at all. Mike, I don't think Pete was being holier than thou at all, that's not how I read it. Merely he was stating his faith in relation to a previous point - I wasn't following the thread that closely to be honest, but I was well aware of this statement. I think you were a harsh on the chap! When you announce your gayeity, would you expect the same treatment?! ;) I have similar beliefs but couldn't make a statement like that, and I admire him for having the guts to do so! So, let's all calm down and shake hands, OK?! Since there's shag all to talk about at the moment, I guess anything like this is prime picking! But since I'm on the subject, presuming you've all read that letter from MK that Mikey posted - don't you think it's time someone made a statement from the band, regarding this damned reunion project? Has MK gaffa taped his fingers together or something - can't he use email?!?! Even if it's come to nothing, some kind of statement would be nice for the fans who've bought all the original records, trudged round the world umpteen times to see every incarnation etc., and had their hopes revived by Boons statement?! L42 were always so good at looking after their fans - even the fan club in their heyday, was financed by the band (!) so if they still value their fans, just a quick hello wouldn't hurt! Not just a "Hello friends, there's a new mega greatest hits DVD, out only £19.99, love MK"! It's as if all the spirit is gone and it's just a touring circus, cashing in on the retro generation. Hopefully I'm wrong - but that's how I feel at the moment, deflated and disappointed. What little hope I had in something new has rapidly disappeared due to the lack of feedback. And that letter is like salt to the wound, really. Love to all the people paying £20 to see him in Ipswich, not even a two fingered salute to all those who came to see him play the dog & duck on the One Man tour, remember he couldn't even fill Wolverhampton Civic hall, so had to go somewhere smaller. Needless to say, I won't be going to see any cover 42 gigs this year - regardless of how good I think they sound. You put your fans first. Maybe this is why Phil has gone off in a huff again?! But I guess we'll never find out, 'cos that might stop people buying the next ultimate rip off collection boxed set sack of shit?! What you sow you reap - look after your fans, and you get rewards back ten fold! Look at all the US digesters who came over on the One Man Tour and consequent ones! That's pretty rare, abuse it and it's very hard to get that back. Fans are any bands bread and butter - they buy all your records, It's the die hards who will still come and see you when you're not cool any more, and can't pull the birds. Piss them off, and well - you'll be as popular as Team Knight Rider was in the UK......what?! Exactly! Dave P.S. Sorry for the rant, but it's been a crap week. "Plank Spanking Rhythm and Boogie" Appearing near you soon check out local festivals and theatres Delta Blue in: "The Mob meets the Blues" Visit: http://www.deltablue.co.uk | ||
| 7. The Digest |
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| From: | DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:24:50 EDT |
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| Hey, you guys knock it off with the religious discussion--this ain't the Jesus Digest, it's the Steely Dan Digest, dammit!! ;o) And since we're recounting how we each discovered The Digest: It was January of '97, and AOL had just taken the unprecedented step of offering unlimited internet service for one low price ($20/month) in the US. For years, I had been using CompuServe (text-only), which charged by-the-hour like they all did then, but had never really explored the Internet because there was an extra hourly charge. So I switched to AOL, like millions of other people at that time, and the first thing I searched for was info on Level 42, my favorite band since the late 80's. The first Digester I met was Rich Herron (where is he now?), a professional deejay and magician from Indiana, who stopped in on his way to a James Randi convention in Florida! Then, in May 1998 on the Isle of Wight in England, Lolita almost single-handedly created the International Level Fest where I finally got to meet so many of the fine people I'd known previously only through The Digest. Then, Mark started touring again, and I have been to the UK at least once every year since, except last year, to hear the best live music in the world and hang out with you people. Yes, we owe Eric a lot--this Digest has had an impact on it's readers lives, which he could not have imagined when he started it. Thanks, man!! :o) Z. | ||
| 8. Our L42 cd stashes ... |
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| From: | mikethepom <mikethepom @ yahoo.com> |
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| Date: | Thu, 2 Oct 2003 21:31:27 -0700 (PDT) |
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| Hi campers … if possible, I’d like to kick off a thread that explores our L42 cd stashes and would be interested to read about what you've got. I’m quite proud of mine, even though the majority of it is just different collections of mostly the same songs! So here goes … in addition to Influences, Trash, One Man, Jazz Café and IoW 2000, plus Mike’s Changes and Wally’s Echoes (picked up this week at a second-hand store for $10) I’ve got: Level 42 The Early Tapes The Pursuit Of Accidents Standing In The Light True Colours A Physical Presence World Machine Running In The Family Running In The Family (Platinum) Staring At The Sun Level Best On The Level Guaranteed (‘89) Guaranteed (‘01) The Remixes On A Level Forever Now Forever Now (Resurgence) The Remix Collection Master Series Turn It On (Karussell) Turn It On (Spectrum) Live At Wembley The Very Best Of La Coleccion del Milenio (Venezuela) Physical Presence: Best Level The Reissues: RITF & SATS The Reissues: TC & WM The Reissues: L42 & TET The Reissues: TPOA & SITL The Reissues: APP The Ultimate Collection The Collection These are all ‘real’ CDs and don’t include the two burned gigs I have – Wembley ‘86 and Enschede ‘91. Are there any others I need? Over to you … Cheers ~ Mike (Sydney City Milkman) P.S. How many more CD titles can there be using the word 'level’? Maybe a posthumous collection entitled ‘Spirit Level’? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com | ||
| 9. + MARKETPLACE |
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| Date: | Fri, 3 Oct 2003 03:00:05 -0400 |
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