Level 42 Digest for Friday, March 21, 2003

Drumstix wrote:

“I believe the intro to the Live at Wembley concert is the theme music from a 60s animated puppet TV show called 'Thunderbirds'. If I remeber correctly, the lead 'characters' were Scot and Virgil Tracey, Miss Penelope?, Parker the chauffeur, and of course, Marina!”.

Mostly correct, but Marina was actually from Stingray, another Gerry Anderson puppet show. In fact, she even had a song dedicated to her at the end of every episode.

And before anybody else says it, I know it’s sad that I know these details.

Take care y’all.

Jimbo

1 - HELL
From:	dean.osborn @ bt.com <dean.osborn @ bt.com>
Date:	Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:02:36 -0000	[top]
Dean wrote: > It would have been great to have had HELL on the album, but then again I > guess it doesn't fit the mood of the whole project. Hell is a fantastic > track though, no-one really talks about it much on here, it's a bit of > a 2nd ESSENTIAL, a real showcase for every instrument. Eric wrote... Where can this track be found? I don't think I've heard it. Eric, this track surfaced a couple of years ago. I think you can listen to it on www.forevernow.com Dean

2 - Re: HELL..."where can this track be found?"
From:	Sean D. Green <seandgreen @ earthlink.net>
Date:	Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:27:57 -0600	[top]
Dean wrote: > It would have been great to have had HELL on the album, but then again I > guess it doesn't fit the mood of the whole project. Hell is a fantastic > track though, no-one really talks about it much on here, it's a bit of > a 2nd ESSENTIAL, a real showcase for every instrument. Eric scratched: > Where can this track be found? I don't think I've heard it. You can get it from me. http://www.forevernow.com/music/digest/unrel.shtml Peace to all -- ~Sean -- ********* "The MIDI Extreme" ********* * http://www.flash.net/~questps/midi.htm * * For the best MIDI files on the net!* ******************************************

3 - Cartoon confusion!
From:	rob.a32 <rob.a32 @ ntlworld.com>
Date:	Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:58:55 -0000	[top]
>If I remeber correctly, the lead 'characters' were >Scot and Virgil Tracey, Miss Penelope?, Parker >the chauffeur, and of course, Marina! If I remember correctly, Marina was in 'Stingray', a sister cartoon from the Gerry Anderson stable - the show's theme music was also used by the lads as an intro piece on occasion!

4 - GMK
From:	Laurence Green <laurence.green @ scottwilson.com>
Date:	Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:20:52 -0000	[top]
>I think that's a bit extreme, although I admit that there clearly is a kind of auto-approbation that exists with >>>some fans. I'm not saying we all should shower the current line-up with love and approval, but dumping on >them the way that's been done here in recent weeks is out of line. Wait til they give you something to chew on >for real. Why should we wait / be excited about the output of some people who have nothing to do with Level 42, and in fact were brought up in a different era with different influences? Surely the whole idea of us being here is because we like Level 42 and therefore it stands to reason that the music they produced appeals to us - so why should we just assume any music from different people will appeal to us just because they've been prescribed the name Level 42? You can go on about 'give these guys a chance' all you like, but I'm as interested in their output as I am of the output of any artist I know nothing about, NOT moreso because they're Mark's mates or are masquerading under the Level 42 name. For me, if they produced their own material, it would be STUPID to release it under the Level 42 banner - why would they want to produce decent material and they somehow shoe-horn it in to the canon of another group just because one of their number happened to be a founder member of that group? - that's madness (and probably why the only people who're interested in this happening are the hardcore (7 or 8) Mark o'philes who'd call it Level 42 if it was Mark and the pope. Don't get me wrong, but at the end of the day Grupo Mark King became Level 42 because Mark (sensibly) wanted to play bigger venues - not because he wanted to record with these guys. I guess it was his second choice, because he tried to get the original line-up back together. L()Z Visit our web site at www.scottwilson.com Privilege and Confidentiality Notice. This e-mail and any attachments to it are intended only for the party to whom they are addressed. They may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete any digital copies and destroy any paper copies. Thank you. Scott Wilson Kirkpatrick & Co Ltd Registered in London: No. 880328 Registered office: Scott House, Basing View, Basingstoke, Hampshire, RG21 4JG. UK. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service.

5 - (no subject specified)
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Maria=20Gechou?= <melodycool2001 @ yahoo.de>
Date:	Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:04:09 +0100 (CET)	[top]
Hi all, the war has begun and I´m afraid for L42 who will fly to indonesia at that dangerous time. I really would like to know what L42 are thinking about the political situation.... How must they feel?? greetings Maria Gesendet von http://mail.yahoo.de. 250 Visitenkarten GRATIS! Erstellen Sie Ihre eigenen vollfarbigen Profi-Visitenkarten einfach Online. Nur bei www.vistaprint.de.

6 - "Tired of Waiting"? or Here Come the Tulips
From:	jt <jtraci @ yahoo.com>
Date:	Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:06:50 -0800 (PST)	[top]
Don, > there clearly is a kind of auto-approbation that > exists with some fans. Very much so. In many varieties of the meaning(s). > but dumping on them [new line up] the way that's >been done here in recent weeks is out of line. Wait >til they give you something to chew on for real. Hardly "out of line", if anything, correctly in-line. I am fantastically lost on you thesis of thinking in which getting up on stage for 4-years (not to mention numerous consumer products documenting such acts) does not qualify and something "real" for a basis of critic. Nor the very real 'evidence' on NON-creative efforts. The continual cloaking with excuses of, "it was a greatest hits tour, they can't do anything new" is wa-fer thin, at best. No crowd is ever _not_ gonna appreciate an announcement along the lines of, "this next tune we're gonma do is a new one, but we want you to pretend it's the most fantastic thing you ever heard!". Madonna could do an entire set-list of "greatest hits", L42 could not, nor did not ("Seven Years", anyone?). This is pop music, we are not expecting MK to do an astounding concept album laden with depth and meaning. > The band spent most > all of 2002 touring. While I can't find the agenda for last year,(didn't Carl have all L42 gigs (ie. past) on the site?) I do believe "most" is an over-statement. And also a piss-poor excuse. Hmmm, band together all the time, bus rides, sound checks...this is how music is written alot of the time. (most) Anyone that sets a scheduled time to write music (or anything) is forcing the issue. A band jamming together, that's when shit happens. Friggin O-Town writes tunes on the bus.... >To write, record, and mix an > album that would satisfy the standards of this crowd > will likely take a year. Getting a record deal could take longer. >Give the lads the benefit > of some down time here and there Species have gone extint during this time span. >time for the new > label to get its marketing together Marketing? We _are_ talking about Level 42 here... >We're all impatient for > something new, but let's be realistic. Man, I'm very realistic, I'm not the one juggling excuses for what is pretty apparent! Eric, "Hell" is on Carl's site under..."rare tracks", or something like that. >Nathan said that he has no plans to play on > any future recordings > of Level 42. Now, granted, this doesn't really > confirm or deny anything, > but it raises the very real possibility that any > future recordings > (if there are any) might have totally different > session musicians. Just another very weird piece to this distorted puzzle called L42. Why someone would be a "part" of a band and not want to/need to/be asked to create for it is...well, weird (under-statement). There are many underlying themes this could fall under... 1st day od Spring, at least... j __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com

7 - I Want Love in a Peaceful World
From:	alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca <alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca>
Date:	Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:12:56 -0500	[top]
>> From: Andrew Goodwin <nightfly83 @ hotmail.com> Forgive the momentary solipsism, << Solipsism: to kiss one's own sism. >> we must love everything which bears the name Level 42" hagiography. << Hagiography: to drown out some old tart's boring life story by cranking Level 42. >> Indeed, that's the act. Good job you weren't here in days of yore << Yore: a period in British history when AG's remarks were something between a yawn and a bore. >> to fail to make even cursory attempts << Cursory: a blending of the finest Indian cuisine with tomorrow's regrets about eating it. >> and if the manner in which people construct their messages makes the content abstruse << Abstruse: the feeling that there's something important coming out of AG's mind, but you just can't quite figure out what it is. >> then that falls within my remit. << Remit: what you should quickly do after peeing outside in the Canadian winter. >> From: Michael Payne <michael @ journeyhouse.com> the civilized world << No dissing, no flaming, nothing negative here. I just want to point out civilization first began on this planet in the Levant about 8000 years ago. Go look it up (everybody, not Mr. Payne specifically). ...Alex...

8 - Nathan's answer
From:	DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com>
Date:	Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:19:45 EST	[top]
> I was poking around Lisa's Nathan-King.com website today, and saw that > in one of the Q/A topics posed, Nathan said that he has no plans to play > on any future recordings of Level 42. Now, granted, this doesn't really confirm > or deny anything, but it raises the very real possibility that any future recordings > (if there are any) might have totally different session musicians. Yeah, but the succinct way he put his answer "No plans at the moment", without any elaboration at all, makes it sound like a pat answer a la MK's denials that he's working on anything new. I keep thinking about what MK said in an interview, about how he doesn't like to talk about what he's "going" to do. If it doesn't come to fruition, you end up looking like a bullshitter, so better to just keep quiet until it's done. Let's hope that's the case. Z.

9 - Thunderbirds and Stingray
From:	James Watkins <james @ bpbaxter.co.uk>
Date:	Fri, 21 Mar 2003 10:10:37 -0000	[top]
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