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Friday, January 24, 2003 |
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| Today's Topics 1 - Just curious ... - HOLMAN, Stuart 2 - Re: Bass Bash - Jan 17th - Carl & Laurel Mueller 3 - worst songs - bunty omar 4 - Level Cover Ideas - Dan Nesselroth 5 - Friesen is sub-par and the Truth about L-42 - Brian Flint 6 - Level 42 track that sounds LEAST like Level 42? - Eric J. Hansen 7 - faves - Eric Johnson 8 - Idoru - alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca 9 - 1st Exam Paper Marked (alex.friesen) - Dannymkavanagh @ aol.com 10 - john mayer fans - Willem 11 - Various - Dave Mock 12 - Debarge - AltoforHire @ aol.com 13 - New Gary Husband Trio - Lars-Ove Larsson 14 - The Naked Lunch - Andrew Goodwin 15 - What if..... - ERICWHE01 @ aol.com 16 - Grammar correction - Andy Kennedy 17 - Slanted pickup - DonZipf @ aol.com 18 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE for 1/24/2003 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE |
| 1 - Just curious ... |
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| From: | HOLMAN, Stuart <HOLMANS @ NORWICH-UNION.CO.UK> |
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| Date: | Thu, 23 Jan 2003 13:28:28 -0000 |
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| Not that I've got the cash at the moment but does anyone have an ex - MK bass for sale ? I'm more curious than anything but if I won the Lottery then who knows !!! Stu. ********************************************************************** This email and any files sent with it are intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient please telephone/email the sender immediately. You should not disclose the content or take/retain/distribute any copies. ********************************************************************** Norwich Union Insurance Limited Registered Office 8 Surrey Street Norwich Norfolk NR1 3NG Registered in England Number 99122 Member of the General Insurance Standards Council For Further enquiries 01603 622200 | ||
| 2 - Re: Bass Bash - Jan 17th |
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| From: | Carl & Laurel Mueller <cmueller @ inland.net> |
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| Date: | Thu, 23 Jan 2003 06:38:03 -0800 |
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| I should've posted about this a few days ago :-) Last Friday, Laurel, myself, Adz & Shannon went to JT Schmid in Anaheim to see Bass Bash 2003. Featured bassists included Keith Horne (Don tipped me off on his awesome (lefty!) playing. Thanks again Z) Michael Manring, Steve Lawson and others. With as the grand finale Victor Bailey and suprise guest Omar Hakim! http://www.boylesdesign.com/bassquake2/html/bass_bash.html Steve certainly is a nice chap! I'll get the pics developed one of these days (remind me to get a digital camera haha) Carl | ||
| 3 - worst songs |
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| From: | bunty omar <bunty @ mac-email.com> |
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| Date: | Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:12:10 -0500 |
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| the worst 1.Tracey - awful lyrics, the final nail in their commercial coffin 2.RITF - epitomises the switch from musos to media whores 3.Chant Has Begun - a bit clunky?? 4.Her Big Day - "punch you in the eye" (can't condone violenece to women or bad lyrics) 5.Staring at the Sun - someone hand me the prozac Current top 5 1. Romance - Had Al Green or Barry White had sung this, it would be a classic 2. Foundation and Empire - awsome Jazz Funk 3. Woman - lift music to the untrained ears, subtle 4. A Pharoahs dream of Endless Time - wehey, f*cking nuts! 5. Man - just for the laid back bass groove after the spoken "fall and fade away" bit wonder what the mooted 2003 album will be like? who will appear on it? --------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------- Free eMail and Web Site for Macintosh Users http://www.applelinks.com/ ---------------------------------------------------- The "iClock" on at the Applelinks Store http://store.applelinks.com/ ---------------------------------------------------- Web Hosting http://hosting.applelinks.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------- | ||
| 4 - Level Cover Ideas |
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| From: | Dan Nesselroth <dnesselroth @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Thu, 23 Jan 2003 07:38:29 -0800 |
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To jump back into the old questions: Best Song: Are You Hearing What I Hear? And worst: For me it's got to be "The Chinese Way"...lumbering, and kind of prejudicial in a vague way, not to mention lyrically akward..."who knows what they know, the chinese legend grows". I know, for some reason it is a CLASSIC. Never liked it that much, although I have enjoyed seeing it live. Okay...if Level 42 were to cover certain songs, what do you think they should be? I have always wanted to hear them do "Too Shy" by Kajagoogoo! Mike could sing it, and there is a funky bassline in there. How about "Catch Me Before I have to Testify" by average white band?? Mark singing "Virtual Insanity" by Jamiroquai would be interesting. I would like to hear Boon cover "Armageddon Days (are here again)" by The The. He has the voice...the rest of the boys needn't turn up for that. It could be a solo release. >From the Beatles: "Martha My Dear" or "Lovely Rita" Stevie Wonder: "Superstition" or "Higher Ground" I wonder what they would do with "Killing in the Name Of" by Rage Against the Machine! _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail | ||
| 5 - Friesen is sub-par and the Truth about L-42 |
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| From: | Brian Flint <wolfbard @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:20:10 +0000 |
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Alex, my friend, if you think you will test my resolve by merely taking my statement "Stop aiming for the lowest common denominator" and turning it around on me, "How else would I be sure you got the joke (I'm paraphrasing), you have a long way to go. How pedestrian. It's School yard teasing my friend. Perhaps living in the back of your Mercur has dulled your wits. Again, I'll forgive you, but please...step up a bit, for the good of all men and women of this world. You are representing Canada, do it with pride. On to Level 42. IT's a little known fact that Mark's first band was actually a collaboration effort with obscure Kioto player Matt Wang, the legendary singer Nat Cole and Mark in an experimental Folk Hindu project called Matt King Cole. Bri _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail | ||
| 6 - Level 42 track that sounds LEAST like Level 42? |
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| From: | Eric J. Hansen <ehansen @ worldmachine.com> |
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| Date: | Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:10:47 -0500 |
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| Tom Foolery wrote: > my middlemost neutral song that I am the most ambivalent about is > "Gresham Man" or whatever it's called. I don't care if it lives, dies, > or wins a grammy - I'm so nonplussed as to not really be certain of its > correct title, and far too disinterested to get up and check. I think this might actually be a brand new topic (!) Anyways, I actually do like Gresham Man, but it brings about yet another topic, which is "what song do you think sounds LEAST like Level 42"? In this category, I would definitely nominate Gresham Man, and probably also At This Great Distance (always sounded a bit like Rush to me). What do folks think? cheers, Eric | ||
| 7 - faves |
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| From: | Eric Johnson <pgi1 @ frontpanels.com> |
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| Date: | Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:25:10 -0500 |
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Thanks to Eric Hansen for the Steely Dan album
update. An interesting link between Steely Dan and Level 42:
Back in 1989 I saw Donald Fagen at the Lone
Star Cafe in Manhattan with Boz Scaggs(prior to New York Rock and Soul review) .
Before and after the gig, music is played through the soundboard (often times
favorites of the artist) The song which came on just before the curtain opened
was Fashion Fever by Level 42. Ever since then I've wondered if the ever-grouchy
Donald Fagen actually likes Level 42. Although I doubt he likes ANY
pop.
Ok here's my least favorite mix tape I need to make
to help turn off my friends to Level 42 (in no particular order)
Levelwurst
The Ape
The Chant Has Begun
Are you Hearing (What I Hear)
Coup d'Etat
Take Care of Yourself
Heart On The Line
Set Me Up
Goodbye Ray Schmidt Volk( Although I bet they never
dreamed this would be on the internet) | ||
| 8 - Idoru |
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| From: | alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca <alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca> |
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| Date: | Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:13:05 -0500 |
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>> From: Pete Devlin <tazbad @ madasafish.com> Went to see Steve Lawson, Michael Manring & David Friesen at a gig here in Reading in December. << I only know the other two in passing, but Manring is truly amazing! I highly recommend his album _Thonk_. Mind you, it's a bit of an acquired taste, but he's quite the slapmeister. ...Alex... | ||
| 9 - 1st Exam Paper Marked (alex.friesen) |
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| From: | Dannymkavanagh @ aol.com <Dannymkavanagh @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Thu, 23 Jan 2003 13:50:22 EST |
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| Alex I have marked your answers: You get 1 and a half points. For those of you who may have missed the questions here they are again (and Alexs' answers): Q1. In what band did Phil and Boon Gould play in immediately prior to Level 42? The touring production of Starlight Express (Incorrect - band not production pse) Q2. In what band did Mark King play in immediately prior to Level 42? The Beatles (Not a chance lol) Q3. What instrument did he play? Bazooki initially, then he switched to drums (half a point) Q4. Which member of Level 42 had a top 20 No1 hit in the 1970's? Mark (incorrect) Q5. What was the name of the band and title of the record? M. "Pop Music." (Is the correct answer 1 point) | ||
| 10 - john mayer fans |
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| From: | Willem <willem.kirsti @ quicknet.nl> |
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| Date: | Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:11:57 +0100 |
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Don
wrote
Also regarding other artists: I know there are some John Mayer fans
here
[Willem] what about this ! ; Recorded
live at the Oak Mountain Amphitheater in Birmingham, Alabama, on September 12,
2002, "Any Given Thursday" captures all the magic, wit, and warmth of John Mayer
in concert. Featuring live versions of songs from John's albums - the
multi-platinum selling breakthrough album, "Room For Squares," and his recently
re-released independent debut "Inside Wants Out" - as well as previously
unreleased new material, "Any Given Thursday" showcases all of John's talents:
his passionate singing, his lyrical guitar-work, his off-the-wall humor.
Tracks Include: 3x5 No Such Thing Back To You City Love Something's Missing* Lenny/ Man On The Side* Message In a Bottle* Love Song For No One Why Georgia Your Body Is A Wonderland My Stupid Mouth Covered In Rain* 83 Comfortable Neon | ||
| 11 - Various |
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| From: | Dave Mock <dfmock @ rocketmail.com> |
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| Date: | Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:41:15 -0800 (PST) |
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| Hey, Micro-Kids: Good to see the Digest is getting back to its high-decibel norm. Someone here mentioned how L42 after "World Machine" got a little slick and overproduced on some tracks. Which makes me wonder what L42, Wally, Julian et al were thinking on some of the "Staring At the Sun" mixes -- or whether Polygram folks were pressuring them to sound slick. "Heaving In My Hands" and "Two Hearts Collide" have potentially killer grooves, but the mixes were so gooey MK's bassline was almost an afterthought. And "Man," tremendous song as it is (with very smart lyrics), doesn't get a groove until mid-song with the killer chord change. I have to say "Gresham Blues" is a moving instrumental, almost like the "SNL" closing music. TCOY, The Duke ===== "...brotherhood is not so wild a dream as those who profit by postponing it pretend." (Norman Corwin) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com | ||
| 12 - Debarge |
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| From: | AltoforHire @ aol.com <AltoforHire @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:04:25 EST |
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In a message dated 1/23/03 4:34:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, level42 @ worldmachine.com writes:> What do you mean by this, Eric? What song by Debarge does it "rip off?" Oh ok, so you were talking about the production. I would never have thought that the chord structure and vibe would be similar. You should probably have said that the group, Debarge "ripped off" Level 42 though, since "People" came out in 83 before "Rhythm..." did in 85. Hhmmm... Angel | ||
| 13 - New Gary Husband Trio |
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| From: | Lars-Ove Larsson <lazlar @ home.se> |
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| Date: | Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:28:51 +0100 |
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Hi
all!
On the web digest a couple
of days ago someone tipped us off on a recording of The New Gary
Husband Trio which is available at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/jazz/jon3/jon3010803fhusband.shtml
I have even managed to
download the video and audio, replace the audio in the video stream with the
separate audio, sync it up reasonably good, just so I could burn a VCD of the
gig. It runs for 39 minutes, and like the original poster said, if you're
expecting Level 42 then you're in for a big shock. Now I'll just need to design
a cover (which should be easy since the site also features some great photos
from the gig).
If you haven't heard/seen
Gary play keyboards before check it out.
Lars
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| 14 - The Naked Lunch |
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| From: | Andrew Goodwin <nightfly83 @ hotmail.com> |
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| Date: | Fri, 24 Jan 2003 00:23:23 +0000 |
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| >4 - various and random responses >From: Eric J. Hansen < >ehansen @ worldmachine.com> > >This is a matter of opinion, and from what I've seen since December, >every broadcast from the studios of WJAZ has been _only_ complaints. I wait all night for comments like these. >See what I'm talking about? If you don't have anything nice to say, >don't say anything at all. Dolphins. >6 - Other-artist news >From: DonZipf @ aol.com < DonZipf @ aol.com> > >In other artist news, I just heard that Steely Dan's new album Everything >Must Go will be released 6 May 2003! (I apologize if this is old news to >the group, as I just heard it.) Duh! Some of us had known that for, I don’t know, 20 lines! >Also regarding other artists: I know there are some John Mayer fans here. >I just got the original self-released version of his Room For Squares >album, called Inside Wants Out. I had seen it on the internet, but now >it's in stores...and well worth the $10. I kind of like the pared-down >arrangements even better than the fully-produced versions of the commercial >release, as they seem a bit jazzier and certainly more intimate. Also >there are a couple of songs on there that didn't make it onto the redux. I >can't imagine a Level 42 fan not digging this music, so get both if you >haven't already! I saw this chap recommended on that other place – probably by your very self – but nothing that was up on eBay was remotely affordable, and I’d have to go a VERY long way back to find the last time I bought a full price CD at UK shop prices without knowing exactly what I was getting. So, other than the ‘Level 42 fans would surely enjoy this’ tagline (which, as a cautionary tale, I’ve seen used about The Lighthouse Family), can you expand? AG _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk | ||
| 15 - What if..... |
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| From: | ERICWHE01 @ aol.com <ERICWHE01 @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:19:08 EST |
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| I find it totally ironic that Level 42 seperated from (or were chucked by) Polydor for not making a commercial enough product. Was it not Mark King's goal to get rich by fine tuning the commercial sound that made Running in the Family such a good pop album and a huge commercial success. So why did Guaranteed fall flat on its face ? Had Level 42 got "too big for its boots" by insisting on releasing their version of Guaranteed and not trusting on the record company's instincts ?
What if.. Polydor had prevailed and they got their commercial 'guaranteed' album - Would it have done better than the BMG version ? There are the detractors on here who see Polydor as the arch enemy, betrayers etc, but didn't they have their fingers more on the commercial pulse than the likes of MK and ML. Didn't the apparent blandness of the album and the abject dejection that I felt after waiting so long for its release prove Polydor right ?? I think so. If there was more to the split than that, then please enlighten me.... Eric W | ||
| 16 - Grammar correction |
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| From: | Andy Kennedy <andy @ amk.uklinux.net> |
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| Date: | Fri, 24 Jan 2003 00:51:14 +0000 |
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| Tom Foolery wrote - { my middlemost neutral song that I am the most ambivalent about is "Gresham Man" or whatever it's called. I don't care if it lives, dies, or wins a grammy - I'm so nonplussed as to not really be certain of its correct title, and far too disinterested to get up and check. } Actually, you are uninterested. Somebody who has never heard of Level42 would be disinterested (I think). And it's either Gresham Blues or Man. Does anyone on this list play the saxophone - we could bore everyone by discussing mouthpieces and reeds!!! AMK | ||
| 17 - Slanted pickup |
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| From: | DonZipf @ aol.com <DonZipf @ aol.com> |
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| Date: | Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:34:23 EST |
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| > Hey Don, sweet bass. Odd setting of the front pickup, > kinda slanted, no? Yeah, they slant it so that you don't rap your knuckles on it when slapping, and it really works! Peace - Z. | ||
| 18 - Level 42 Digest MARKETPLACE for 1/24/2003 |
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