From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest) Subject: Level42 Digest V2001 #6 _ ____ _ ____ _ _ ___ // //__ // / //__ // /__// __// //__ //__ \\_/ //__ //__ // /__ D I G E S T Level42 Digest Volume 2001 : Issue 6 1387 subscribers Today's topics: 5 albums Willem en Kirsti album releases, etc Winston Walker 'Get a grip...' - The final episode... Stuart Ross crucifixion today! Tom Trudell Digest V2001 #5 goldie100 Thanks To Mr Mooney Desmond Lynch Everybody Hates A Critic Flucks new subscriber mickcole Cliffhanger Andrew Goodwin Re: Level42 Digest V2001 #5 sound like 42 Vivient Gill ------------------------------ Subject: 5 albums From: "Willem en Kirsti" Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 13:10:07 +0100 >>>I just got the trash cd and .....the name sais it all.I always thougt it couldn't get worse, but in the long decline after theGoulds have left this is the lowest point.So, i keep listening to the old stuff ( the first 5 albums ). Forget all therest, and no hope is left for better days.Perhaps you olks like to crucify me now, but i do not think i'm standingalone with my opinion.And i'm still searching for some old live material. C a n s o m e b o d y h e l p m e ?<<<<< Well its nice to have you own opinion, but sorry there are no live recordings made from the early days..just stick with your first 5 albums :-) ------------------------------ Subject: album releases, etc From: "Winston Walker" Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 07:36:29 -0500 To Dean, and all other inquirers..I dont think we hae any definitive info on the release date of Mike's Lp, or the MK dvd/video at this time. Although some sites are having hosting problems at the moment, i'm sure that of a date were confirmed, it would be posted here by the appropriate parties, and the info would be on the remaining websites. Anselm, itsn't Gresham the name of the hotel they stayed in, while work on the SATS lp? i think Dan James tried to stay their while touring ireland. Tcoy, Win ------------------------------ Subject: 'Get a grip...' - The final episode... From: "Stuart Ross" Organization: Moozo Moozic Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 14:14:53 -0000 Dear Joey Vela, Mate, I'm sorry if I offended you (which I obviously did). I genuinely didn't want my comments to be taken quite that literally - so maybe I shouldn't have made them.... I dunno. So many people on the Digest take things so personally though, and so literally, and get all up in arms about it all. I know it's hard to see through to the real sentiment behind plain text, but I thought I'd made it clear that my comments about AIDS, etc., were just examples (allbeit somewhat extreme ones) plucked out of the air, to show how misinformation can impact the masses. Maybe there might've been a young lad who would really suit trad grip, but on reading your post, didn't ever try it because he didn't want to be a "Blackwatch drummer". A seemingly harmless comment might change someone's life, dude. OOPS!! I'm doing it again aren't I?! (Yes. Shut up, Stu!!! - Ed.) I guess I just got carried away, but I will say that I'm surprised that someone who's as experienced as yourself, and obviously very knowledgable, would make such a sweeping statement (especially as you just contradicted it in your reply yesterday). I guess I took that one far too literally, too ;-) Next time I reply to somebody's entry in the Digest, I'll drink a tad less gin! (Tends to make one a bit bonkers sometimes, don't ya think?!), and I'll try not to tread on people's toes too. There are (or should be) no rules in music. After all, the Bumble Bee cannot fly if you apply our laws of aviation and physics to its flying technique and equipment, but we all know that he can.... So let the choice of stick & grip remain as personal a choice as one's cymbals and pedals, and may you bring happiness to many more young students who decide to try a bit of both... (big respect to you for teaching, Joey. It takes a special sort.) Yours semi-retractedly, and a little more humbly, Stuart Ross. P.S. Friends? ------------------------------ Subject: crucifixion today! From: Tom Trudell Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 08:27:43 -0800 "Zippel, Erdmann" wrote: >I just got the trash cd and .....the name sais it all. >I always thougt it couldn't get worse, but in the long decline after the >Goulds have left this is the lowest point. >So, i keep listening to the old stuff ( the first 5 albums ). Forget all the >rest, and no hope is left for better days. >Perhaps you folks like to crucify me now, OK! "Ok, get on there, Zippel!" "Somebody get me three nails - no not those, the bigger ones" "aaagh!""aaagh!""aaagh!" now, everybody, on the count of three, LIFT! One . . . Two . . . Three!!! Handsomely now! Dearest Erdmann, I don't think that Trash was never meant to be compared to a full-blown Level 42 studio album. It's a solo effort done in a pretty professional digidesign rig and I think it sounds pretty smooth. The songwriting, for me, is more interesting than your average L42 album - Trash has an edge of bitterness to it, what with people sticking their heads in ovens and music executives turning out the crap. Perhaps you don't like Mark King's musical dark side? It sounds more honest to me. In any Level 42 staple, MK and Mike Lindup could get really syrupy real quick - Bayybeeeeee. Trash has more real emotion, at least for me. Finally, let's get you down in your basement with your kazoo and a tape recorder - let's hear your solo album and see how you make out! I'm a home recordist myself, and it is a huge pain to get your funk sound just like you want it to!!! I can agree with you, however, that without Phil Gould, there is something missing. Love his drums. He has a sample CD of riffs born of Level 42 and elsewhere that I use continually in my home recording efforts - I can't play drums as well as MK the bassplayer can! crucified enough? -Tom T ------------------------------ Subject: Digest V2001 #5 From: "goldie100" Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 18:27:28 -0000 Hi all, Nice to see I am not the only one who prefers to listen to the old stuff. The first 5 albums are "the most fantastic thing I've ever heard". My all time faves are "Love games" (moves me to tears) and most of "True Colours". I haven't bothered with any of the new stuff, the last one I bought was "Forever now", which I actually thought was pretty crap ("Guaranteed" - ditto). I'm sorry, I cannot help living in the past but the groove has gone. Cheers, Lozzie xx ------------------------------ Subject: Thanks To Mr Mooney From: "Desmond Lynch" Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 19:10:49 -0000 A Huge Thanks must go to Mr Mooney for sending the rare tapes in for Nothing More To Say, & Theme to margaret, I don;t think anyone has thanked him on the digest yet so far, so THANKS. These two Live boots have put a huge smile on my face, just when i thought things were starting to dry up, along come these two gems! Now if anyone else is sitting on rare live stuff, please send it to carl at forevernow.com By the way i love the percussion fills on theme to margaret, why did the band stop doing these fills live? I love it, brings a touch of rio carnival to the party Laters Des Ps what else is on the Capital Radio tapes where the two above tunes come from? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Subject: Everybody Hates A Critic From: "Flucks" Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 12:24:09 -0800 > Subject: Trash > From: "Zippel, Erdmann" > Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:08:02 +0100 > > I just got the trash cd and .....the name sais it all. > I always thougt it couldn't get worse, but in the long decline after the > Goulds have left this is the lowest point. > So, i keep listening to the old stuff ( the first 5 albums ). Forget all the > rest, and no hope is left for better days. Ouch! Something that I'd like to point out Erdi is that you're mentioning "Trash" like it's another 42 album. It's not at all. You shouldn't expect Level 42 music from a CD labeled Mark King. And also it clearly says that the songs on "Trash" are "...a selection of demo songs that were never finished, or used." I tend to be a little less critical when I read liner notes like this. James ________________________ jamesrsutton @ home.com http://www.flucks.net paulacolefan @ hotmail.com ICQ 42991385 "Flucks" ________________________ ------------------------------ Subject: new subscriber From: "mickcole" Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 21:18:17 -0000 hi i have just subscribed to this list so a bit about myself. my name is mick i live in devon, i work at paper mill and am new to computers and play bass. i have been looking for level 42 tab for bass (with no joy) so could anyone please help me mick ------------------------------ Subject: Cliffhanger From: "Andrew Goodwin" Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 00:39:42 -0000 >Subject: AG...Man or Myth? & Video Compilations >From: "LaBossiere, David" > > We could further enliven and enhance their thought processes by >stipulating that you and I and Santa are all one!!! No you've blown it. How long could it have been before everyone realised that just as Santa is a spooky anagram of Satan, so David LaBossiere is an anagram of I, Badass Evil Doer? >Subject: Innuendo >From: "Cliff & Debjani Barua" > >Innuendo was one of Freddie Mercury's final hurrahs on this fine Earth, but >9 years on, the Digest is full of them (including Alex's fine dig at AG). Holy Novascotia, what's going on over there? First Friesen clumsily spells out a pun so leadenly blunt in itself that surely only the terminally obtuse could have failed to get it; and now Barua, in one of his sadly infrequent posts, is lauding him for it! Is it Canadian Point Missing Week or something? AG _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2001 #5 sound like 42 From: Vivient Gill Organization: @Home Network Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 21:47:43 -0500 Walter said: >I was wondering which current bands/groups sound like Level 42. At the >moment, I only can come up with some work of Jamiroquai, which sounds like >Level 42 in the early days. Funky! >Any other suggestions? >Cheers, >Walter Yea check out the new astounding Y-Chromo-Boyz built from the heart of Level 42!...right Jake!