From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest) Subject: Level42 Digest V2001 #43 _ ____ _ ____ _ _ ___ // //__ // / //__ // /__// __// //__ //__ \\_/ //__ //__ // /__ D I G E S T Level42 Digest Volume 2001 : Issue 43 1352 subscribers Today's topics: Mark King Interview in German magazine Christian Beyer Re: Level42 Digest V2001 #42 richard.west Correction Christian Beyer - Shakatak bunty omar Starchild News??? Paul Fucito Digest No.42!!! weyhey! goldie100 Going to the UK Tim Wiley RE: [ILF] General trends for IOW 2000 CD's Michael Thomas Payne Guaranteed? Daniel James Want higher sales? 28383 slice7 More Guaranteed, reunion Joey Vela FW: CNN Breaking News Michael Thomas Payne Reunion - London Vs Isle of Wight Desmond Lynch Guaranteed Album Michael Thomas Payne EARN A SERIOUS INCOME AT HOME! earn10k Re-union Brian Luttrull Receive a F R E E 2-Way Motorola Pager 9730 riley_magnolia The best is yet to come SED videos for sale videos for sale ------------------------------ Subject: Mark King Interview in German magazine From: Christian Beyer Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:22:32 +0100 Hi, There is a Mark King interview (promting the reissues and Mark's recent cds) to be found the February 2001 issue of German magazine "Gitarre und Bass". Mark says that the first gig L42 ever did was in Aachen, Germany. He also says he is not interested in producing more commercial albums for a record company. Christian ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2001 #42 From: richard.west @ westsig.co.uk Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:24:54 +0000 >Subject: STALKER... >From: "Pete Devlin" >Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:25:45 -0000 >I really feel that Mark should have edited that >bit of sweat falling off of his head during the >break of Hot Water. It shows disrespect to the >audience to sweat on stage & even keep it in on >a recording. etc. Congrats Pete, you made me laugh out loud in the office. I haven't giggled so much in ages. Brilliant stuff. ------------------------------ Subject: Correction From: Christian Beyer Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:27:10 +0100 In the interview, Mark says that he is tired of having marketing managers' telling him he should be more commercial - not that he is uninterested in producing commercial albums anymore. Sorry about the confusion. Christian ------------------------------ Subject: - Shakatak From: "bunty omar" Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:11:38 -0500 There are certain things that should be left in the 80's and one of them is Shakatak for sure. I mean, who in their right mind would travel out to see Shakatak, how many classic jazz-funk tracks have they to their credit? When our brave lads took to the stage, they were cutting edge playing with the Police and the Stranglers, (and getting pelted with firecrackers in the proccess), an antidote to the dying punk scene no less. Shakatak are hardly worthy of playing against L42 and are no longer marketable. If you were to pull in some proper heavyweights like JTQ, Courduroy, Incognito, Omar, Al Green, Lewis Taylor, K-Creative, Carleen Anderson, Johnny Hates Jazz (joke) then you'd have a right meaty line up on your hands. But ..... Shakatak, aaaagggghhhh, you are so wrong man! .... and as for those those weedy female vocals!!!! I need to have a lie down now, maybe blow the dust off the 'Drivin Hard' album and remind myself how middle of the road Shakatak were even then, then maybe play SITL just to piss on Shakatak and then twiddle the knob of my pink prophet. Shakatak?! I arsk yah --------------------------------------------------------------- Using a Macintosh? Get FREE E-mail, web space and MORE http://www.applelinks.com/ --- Discuss your favorite Macintosh Topics http://www.macboards.com --------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: Starchild News??? From: Paul Fucito Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:54:52 -0800 (PST) Any more info on the new Starchild mix? I'm getting nowhere with the label. I will order the new MK CD's today and have some thoughts on DVD vs CDRom. The CDrom format works worldwide, while the DVD format would need to be converted into PAL & NTSC format, which would cost quite a bit. Why they STILL have two formats now for DVD is beyond me and actually pisses me off. But, at least I don't have to feel left out without an opportunity to see the footage.... paul F __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Subject: Digest No.42!!! weyhey! From: "goldie100" Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:03:55 -0000 Hi all, 1) Maybe the evil spammer is Philip Gould - just a thought 2) Maybe "The best is yet to come" refers to a reunion in the offing? - we can but hope 3) Caister could be good - I think L42 did a couple of soul weekenders there many moons ago 4) It doesn't really matter when or where the gig would take place, we would all try to get there (although IOW would be handy for me - I'm on the south coast) 5) 'Guaranteed' IMHO is crap and always will be - no matter how many times I play it, I don't like it !!!! 6) I considered it a real honour to be both sweated and spat on by the Kingster in 1987 (Brighton Centre). The poor chap couldn't help it and it was that night that I actually realised he was a real human being - not a God. Cheers, Lozzie xxxxx ------------------------------ Subject: Going to the UK From: Tim Wiley Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:16:17 -0500 I'm from Philadelphia and will be in England next week for work. I'll be in London for 4 days and Coventry for 2. While I'm there, I would love to pick up any Level 42 stuff that you can't get in the states. If anybody has any ideas of where to go - let me know. In particular, I would like to get a copy of "Changes". Thanks. OlloR "You're caught in a web you've spun yourself." timw @ wendovercorp.com **************************************************************************** * The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. . **************************************************************************** * ------------------------------ Subject: RE: [ILF] General trends for IOW 2000 CD's From: Michael Thomas Payne Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:59:44 -0600 You forget to mention: "Well, I was disappointed that the track ___________________________ wasn't on their, but Dream Crazy, TCOY, and Lying Still are so cool!" Mikey PS: I think that we should concentrate on getting Mike and Mark back together for another album, maybe tour rather the whole of the ol L42, I think that this is more likely in the next 5 years. Remember Phil Gould's attitude about the L42 reissues, it seem that those bad vibes are still there. Also, why is the digest full of adverts lately, is this a JOE P campaign or what? Also, the guy who made reference to Mike Lindup twiddling the knobs of the Prophet, too funny for a Monday morning read, still snorting after that. -----Original Message----- From: GJWillett @ aol.com [mailto:GJWillett @ aol.com] Sent: February 12, 2001 8:56 AM To: ilf @ worldmachine.com Subject: [ILF] General trends for IOW 2000 CD's I think somebody should keep a count on how many digesters mention the following about the IOW 2000 CD's: 1. I only sent my e-mail/letter in the post on whatever day and received the CD's on whatever day. Wow they came so quickly. 2. The packaging/artwork is great. 3. The CD's are the dogs b***ocks (or similar words to that affect). 4. The inlay on the audio CD reads "...and the best is yet to come" - This must be a reference to Trash 2 being on it's way. 5. I don't know why Mark didn't release the CD on DVD or video - it looks better than OK to me. 6. How do I convert the CD-ROM to a VCD (or something else) so that I can watch it on my TV? 7. Can I play the CD-ROM on my DVD? There appears to be a general trend in the e-mails so far and it's so funny to see the same things being mentioned!!! :-) Carl, you'll have to put this up on forevernow.com as a substitute to not having the 'who has what numbered CD!' Glyn. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- The Level 42 "ILF" mailing list is an electronic bulletin system for news about International Levelfests. To unsubscribe from the ILF list, please send an email to with "unsubscribe" as the subject. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ------------------------------ Subject: Guaranteed? From: Daniel James Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:09:30 -0800 >>Also, can someone tell me where I can get a copy of "guaranteed" the album >>on cd, tavs has it and i cant find it ANYWHERE!!! > >Sorry Ben - this album has been deleted - you may be able to pick it up >in a second hand shop somewhere or try: It has? 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------------------------------ Subject: More Guaranteed, reunion From: Joey Vela Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:43:45 -0600 > GUARANTEED is indeed one of Level 42's best, although > some of the die-hards here regard it as rubbish. It's > a splendid example of a band getting on with it after > the departure (both literally and figuratively) of > some beloved members, and exploring new territory > rather than regurgitating an increasingly dated sound. > > I was thinking the other day about movies which opened > as box-office failures, only to become cherished > classics many years later: Casablanca, It's a > Wonderful Life, The Wizard of Oz,.... And so, I > believe, shall it be for GUARANTEED in the world of > Level 42 lore. > I feel the love growing already! - Don Z Excellent post! I second everything Don says regarding Guaranteed. It seems that every time this album gets mentioned, it subsequently brings out more applause. The number of Guaranteed fans continues to grow while the ranks of those who hate it are dwindling. > PS - I also think The Doobie Bros. were better AFTER > Michael McDonald joined! Yeah, and the Moody Blues were better after Denny Lane left and Justin Heyward joined and TOTALLY changed their sound. Just another note regarding the "reunion hopes". So I may have been wrong about only Digesters being the ones who would buy tickets to a Level 42 reunion. I see it now. Each Digester brings his/her clan and they tell 2 friends who tell 2 friends who tell 2 friends and so on and so on and so on... Level 42 may even sell enough tickets to sell-out Wembley Stadium. However, to whoever mentioned Jamiroquai sharing the bill, which BTW was a brilliant idea, Jay and the boys would headline, not Level 42. Jamiroquai would be the bigger draw based on CURRENT album sales, ticket sales, airplay, etc. The banner would read something like "Britfunk Fest Featuring Jamiroquai with special very guests: Level 42, Shakatak, et al. Alright. So we have surmised that ticket sales shouldn't be a problem, but first thing's first. HOW DO WE GET MARK, MIKE, PHIL, BOON, AND WALLY TOGETHER IN THE SAME ROOM LONG ENOUGH TO TALK TO ONE ANOTHER LET ALONE DISCUSS A POSSIBLE REUNION????? Letter writing campaign perhaps? I vote for Des Lynch to write an impassioned plea, similar to his reunion ravings here on the Digest, to each one of them. However, I wouldn't emphasize money or ticket sales. I would instead focus on reliving the magic as well as the chance to let newer Level 42 fans experience it. It's true that Kiss regrouped with its original members and makeup after 16 years, but that was due in part to money. They found themselves no longer playing stadiums. So I don't think their reasons for regrouping with Ace and Peter were really all that noble. Bauhaus reformed briefly in 1999 after 15 years apart, but they didn't exactly play to packed houses, at least here in the States. I also read recently that Roxy Music was regrouping (sans Brian Eno and Paul Thompson) after a 17 year absence, and they will tour the States! So, let's see. It seems that the average group breakup lasts anywhere from 15 to 17 years. Based on those numbers, I don't think we'll see any Level 42 reunion until at least 2009. TCOY, Joey V 101010 2A ------------------------------ Subject: FW: CNN Breaking News From: Michael Thomas Payne Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:10:40 -0600 -----Original Message----- From: BreakingNews @ CNN.COM [mailto:BreakingNews @ CNN.COM] Sent: February 12, 2001 12:13 PM To: TEXTBREAKINGNEWS @ CNNIMAIL4.CNN.COM Subject: CNN Breaking News BREAKING NEWS from CNN.com -- Appeals court upholds most of Napster injunction, CNN reports. For complete coverage of this story visit: http://www.CNN.com ===================================================== To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE to any CNN E-MAIL service visit: http://www.cnn.com/EMAIL (c) 2001 Cable News Network, Inc. An AOL Time Warner Company CNN Interactive email id:7074131301131168 ------------------------------ Subject: Reunion - London Vs Isle of Wight From: "Desmond Lynch" Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:14:28 -0000 Yeah good points for both possable venues, However having worked in the media in London for a good few years, I know damn well that if you want to get any media coverage at all, then the Lazy Bastards will not bother going to the isle of wight, but they will all just about roll out for any gig in London. But a summers weekend on the island would be just perfect, and rather than just trotting home after a london gig, we could have an aftershow digesters party on the beach, ..that would be a riot wouldn't it? a combined original 42 Gig and an ILF rolled into one..mmmmmmm I dunno about hughsies post yesterday about having it In upton Park!!!!!that place has not been sold out for over a century...LOL!!(sorry mate) and i don't think by dredging up all the past media tags about 42 fans driving cortina's and Capri's with fury dice should be kept, (even though i used to drive a capri!) we don't drive them anymore. Just the original 42 of phil, mark, boon, mark, wally, mike, barnacle, and a good percussionist will do, on a stage, with a superb sound system, I don't care what lights they have as long as the band are visable, and forget the flashy stage outfits, 42 played better when they wern't posing, bring back the old T shirts, muscle vests, & boots oh and loz, you say you don't mind if wally is not part of the equasion, well, on an instrumental night, how about Chief Inspector being played by 42 & wally, I would be dancing on my seat to that one, just the icing on the cake eh? Laters Des _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Subject: Guaranteed Album From: Michael Thomas Payne Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:09:59 -0600 Hello YAWL!!!!!!!! I have to say that the Guaranteed album has always been since its release, one of my most favourite albums. My thoughts on this album were strong, as they were finally able to play the music they wanted to play without the pressure from the marketing dept at Polydor. Although Polydor refused the album, RCA was right to accept the album without changes. I have heard stories however that Gary did most of the keyboard parts on this album and that Mike Lindup was not pleased with some of the songs...and that Gary did not (and still doesn't) have a very high regard for Mike Lindup. I got the album weeks before its release while I was serving in Saudi Arabia, the lady at RCA-BMG was nice enough to send me an advance copy on a promo cassette along with a million other promo cassettes. Right when I heard Guaranteed, I thought it was an awesome song, then it was followed by Overtime, and so on.... All the songs (except THE APE) had a dynamic sound and was sonically different from anything I felt they had done before. It lifted my spirits while driving through the streets of Riyadh, Saudi Arabia at 3:00AM, so it holds a special place in time and place for me. I actually heard A Kinder Eye on a NW flight going to the UK in October (or it could have been March) 1994, it couldn't believe it. I don't understand the critiques it gets from time to time, except for the track THE APE (which is probably the worst song L42 ever did..and should have been the soundtrack to the old Atari video game Donkey Kong). The album had a nice feel to it, it started high and festive, then sank into things lost, then ended with an awesome melody of With A Little Love. If you haven't listened to it for a few years, go back and play it again, you might find that it truly is one of the best albums they did! Mikey PS: Back in 1996 I did a "Weird Al" parody of the lyrics of Guaranteed, called Stampede, some of you might enjoy it, you will have to look in the digest archives for 1996, using search word Stampede! ------------------------------ Subject: EARN A SERIOUS INCOME AT HOME! From: earn10k @ firstnight.co.uk Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:15:30 -0700 ------=_NextPart_000_55A3_00005396.000059A2 Content-Type: text/html; Let's get right to the point.

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------------------------------ Subject: Re-union From: Brian Luttrull Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:14:40 -0600 Then: Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V99 #105 From: L.F.Green @ shu.ac.uk (Laurence F. GREEN) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:17:56 +0100 > The will never be a reunion of the original 4 members of Level 42, yet I suspect > in the years to come there will be more than 1 > collaboration between original members and I would bet my mortgage on Mark and > Mike reforming Level 42 withtin 5 years and > probably much sooner. Now: Subject: all those in favour say aye From: "Laurence F. GREEN(SED)" Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:50:15 +0000 > > OK - so we organise a funk weekender on the IOW > The highlight being a set by the greatest funk outfit of all time, Level 42. > > Maybe what we need is a petition, maybe's everyone can write a letter to the > band members and try > to go for the heart string. What about if we all go on hunger strike until the > reunion? There has > to be a way. I'm chewing gum at the moment - would that count? Glad maybe you've changed your mind, Loz. I'd say you're probably the driving force needed to get a reunion organized. But can we add one more performance night of just Metallica covers? Brian ------------------------------ Subject: Receive a F R E E 2-Way Motorola Pager 9730 From: riley_magnolia @ hotmail.com Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:26:43 -0500 F R E E 2-Way Motorola PAGER . New 2-Way Motorola Pager for F R E E! No long term contract No activation fee No big prepayment of airtime No credit check PAGING AMERICA is going to give you absolutely F R E E the Brand new 2-Way Motorola pager. This top of the line pager will even receive your E-MAIL! Included with your new pager is the technology that allows you to respond to the E-mails you receive. You can also send messages back and forth between pagers! Don't pass this offer up! 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It's obviously a joke reference to the 'see you at the bar' brouhaha. Honestly, sometimes I hang my head in shame thinking about what Mark must've thought of some of those comments, mind you, it was hilarious, he just HAS to say it at the end of every gig from now on. Respectfully L()Z ------------------------------ Subject: videos for sale From: "" Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:39:08 Hi all...... Anybody want to know of a website that sells video copies of the following Level 42 concerts ? Rockpalast 1983 Rockpalast 1984 BBC Sight And Sounds Hitchin Mark King Ohne Filter gig Visit www.promusicfind.com/videoresource This is a guy running a company that sells concerts of loads of different artists. All videos are 35 dollars each plus shipping. He can supply them in NTSC or PAL (extra charge for PAL conversion). I bought the Rockpalast gigs from him a couple years ago and they are top quality copies. I am in no way assiociated with this company other than I bought from him before and I know he is very reputable, and I know that other digesters will be interested in these gigs. TCOY Dean _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Subject: videos for sale From: "" Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:39:23 Hi all...... Anybody want to know of a website that sells video copies of the following Level 42 concerts ? Rockpalast 1983 Rockpalast 1984 BBC Sight And Sounds Hitchin Mark King Ohne Filter gig Visit www.promusicfind.com/videoresource This is a guy running a company that sells concerts of loads of different artists. All videos are 35 dollars each plus shipping. He can supply them in NTSC or PAL (extra charge for PAL conversion). I bought the Rockpalast gigs from him a couple years ago and they are top quality copies. 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