From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest) Subject: Level42 Digest V2001 #24 _ ____ _ ____ _ _ ___ // //__ // / //__ // /__// __// //__ //__ \\_/ //__ //__ // /__ D I G E S T Level42 Digest Volume 2001 : Issue 24 1382 subscribers Today's topics: diff versions / compillations SED Re: Level42 Digest V2001 #23 Ed Bilson The System, SOS, UK/US World Machine Lolitaj Iron Maiden, Metallica, & Level 42 Eric Pseja Level42 on DVD ED Nowak Ring Tones Sony CMD Z5 steve thompson Gary Husband Pascal Koolen Rush Brian Luttrull ------------------------------ Subject: diff versions / compillations From: "Laurence F. GREEN(SED)" Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 11:05:57 +0000 Level42 @ worldmachine.com writes: >My L42 collection explodes with this kind of compilations,why don't they >release some interesting rare stuff?????????????? You said it man, teh compillation has been out for about 6 months. There's still a few bits and pieces that Polydor/Universal could throw on these things to make it actually worthwhile for fans to buy them. There's the old argument as to whether 'World Machine' US or UK makes more sense, or 'Forever Now' RCA vs. Resurgence, but there could be some interesting Well, Resurgence have no artistsic input into any of their products, the Resurgence version of Forever Now is how the band wanted you to hear that album. The US version of World Machine is inferior to the UK version in my opinon. L()Z ------------------------------------------------------ Laurence Green Research Assistant Sheffield Hallam University School Of Environment and Development City Campus Advanced Construction Research, Room 302 Sheffield S1 1WB TEL: 0114 2253368 ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2001 #23 From: Ed Bilson Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:19:01 +0000 Replying to: Subject: Porno Music From: Winston Walker Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:49:10 -0500 Nigel, you hit the nail on the head with 'The Jeff Lorber Fusion' as his band was called. He did some great albums, as has always been one of my fave keyboard players. He also had some pretty good bass players in his bands. Danny Wilson & Lester McFarland being the main guys, but Stanley Clarke did some guest work as well. If you ever thought Kenny G sucked on sax, please check out his playing on these early albums, which is waaaay before he went 'smooth jazz'. #### Vail Johnson is almost as good as MK! I've got a tape from a video of the Kenny G band doing midnight motion even better than on the live CD. Sure, Kenny G is lame, and he sucks. (Well, he self-evidently blows too.) This ends with a guitar-hero-style battle - lick from Kenny, lick from Vail, etc - about 6 times till Johnson takes it away with a funky fuck off riff - and Kenny G walks off, then a staggering bass solo. If anyone knows where I can download or ... even BUY! .. a (better) recording of this battle I'd be grateful. (VJ is not quite as spot-on-the-beat as MK, nor the colour ... but maybe he's slightly faster on the thunderthumbs front. Do not buy his CD unless you can face looking at some truly awful pics, "Made in Amerrrca" and musclebound) ------------------------------ Subject: The System, SOS, UK/US World Machine From: Lolitaj @ aol.com Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:55:01 EST 1) You Are In My System was a major hit on black radio for The System [along with the song Don't Disturb This Groove - remember that??]. I totally forgot that Robert Palmer did a cover of it. Did somebody say Mark did a remix of this? I'm confused. 2) UK World Machine beats US hands down, if only for the reason that Dream Crazy and I Sleep on My Heart are there. Intruiging suggestion to reorder POA and some of the other CDs - I'm curious to see what folks responses will be. 3) Any Swing Out Sister fans need to go get the Japanese import CD Filth & Dreams from 1999 if they don't own it. I just got it and it is in heavy rotation in my CD player. The song and production quality are top notch - it is some of their best work in years. Later! Lolita ------------------------------ Subject: Iron Maiden, Metallica, & Level 42 From: "Eric Pseja" Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:00:54 -0500 > Ed Bilson wrote: > > What place has any discussion about Metallica and Iron Maiden got here? Someone > tried to persuade me that the former were worthy of a few minutes attention, since > their bass player was very good. Well, compared to your average heavy metal, > plectrum-wielding incompetent, he is - but not in the league we discuss here. > In terms of quality music, they are irrelevant. Well Ed, let me first answer your question as to why we're talking about Iron Maiden and Metallica here. Level 42's music is primarily known for it's world-class bass playing by Mark King. We all agree that he is second to almost none across many styles of music. However, most skilled musicians and real music lovers I know recognize that Mark King is not the only bassist in the world, and Level 42's style of jazz fusion pop is not the only genre of music. There are many styles of music and genres of bands that make very good music. Iron Maiden and Metallica are two bands that are tops in their genre, and since we're talking about their *bassists* and we all like Level 42 (get the thread?) we're bringing it up here. Let me ask you something... Have you even listened to more than the odd handful of "popular" Metallica and Iron Maiden songs? I would bet you haven't. Just like "Something About You" certainly doesn't sum up the entire range of Mark King's talent, "Enter Sandman" and "Wasted Years" do not sum up the entire range of Jason Newsted and Steve Harris's talents. If you took the time to listen to more of these bands' tunes with a musician's ear, you'll find that Jaosn Newsted is (was) one of the most aggressive, emotive, and tight heavy metal bassists out there and Steve Harris finger-plays beautifully intricate, theory-driven basslines at speeds that rival Mark's speedy slap and pop. And both add a key element to the sounds that have made both of these bands so hugely popular in their times. Lastly, since both Metallica and Iron Maiden have had plenty more commercial success than Level 42 ever had, it is quite erroneous (and especially pompous) to call them irrelevant! While I recognize that everyone may not love all types of music, it's hard for me to accept when someone talks bad about a band or genre of music that they've never really heard or experienced enough to know the difference, as is obvious here. Peace out! +EPseja+ ------------------------------ Subject: Level42 on DVD From: "ED Nowak" Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:25:28 +0100 Hi I have question How many Level42 concerts and which are given on DVD ? Edward www.edward.prv.pl ------------------------------ Subject: Ring Tones Sony CMD Z5 From: "steve thompson" Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:34:50 -0000 Hi All Some time ago I asked if anyone knew where I could get Level 42 ring tones for my phone... no one replied... there must be someone out there who can help? The phone has a composer, so if anyone can e-mail me the notes perhaps I will be able to input them... thanks Best wishes Steve _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Subject: Gary Husband From: "Pascal Koolen" Organization: www.level42.nl Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:49:20 +0100 Gary told me at the JC gigs that he has recorded his new cd in the Netherlands,"the studio's in Holland are perfect and you get the best quality" Well,we will find it out... I was inspired by the "background"music after Mark played at the JC gigs every night, can anyone tell me wich kind of artists i need to search to find this jazz-funky style of music? TCOY! Pascal **************************************************************************** ************** Level 42 homepage: www.level42.nl E-mail: webmaster @ level42.nl Icq-chat: 33951627 (download icq : www.mirabilis.com) Phonenumber: 0031-495-526651 Visit the Levelfest2001,Weert,the Netherlands. **************************************************************************** ************** ------------------------------ Subject: Rush From: Brian Luttrull Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:02:53 -0600 I was reading where director Jay Roach is planning a cinematic version of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy w/ a script by Douglas Adams. Surely this was an old article since it already came out last summer, under the title MI2. From: Joey Vela > > On a lighter note, the new Geddy Lee solo album, My Favorite Headache, is > really quite good although a departure from Rush. Check it out. I recorded Geddy on Rockline a few weeks ago. Also made some snap shots of his webcam broadcast of the show. For you Rush fans... Jan 20th from melodicrock.com: > > RUSH BACK IN THE STUDIO AFTER LONG HIATUS: > This press story was sent in to me and I thought it was rather good and > worthy of re-printing. > Exclusive Geddy Lee on the Rush reunion By Paul Cantin - Senior > Reporter, JAM! Showbiz. > > For the first time since the summer of 1997, the members of Rush are back > together making music. > Singer-bassist Geddy Lee confirmed to JAM! Music Friday that he, guitarist > Alex Lifeson and drummer Neil Peart have ended a lengthy hiatus and > gathered in a Toronto-area studio to begin work on a new record. > "We are all back together now, and we are just starting that process of > writing," Lee told JAM! Music on Friday in an exclusive interview. > "It is too early to say anything concrete has gone down. We are just getting > to know each other again and getting comfortable with the prospect of > hanging out together for the next couple of months." > On Wednesday, the threesome met up at the studio, but most of the time > since then has been spent setting up their gear and working out technical > bugs. A cold hit guitarist Alex Lifeson, which further put a crimp in the > momentum, as well as the fact that the studio has been a beehive of > activity. > "It was a bit surreal, I would say. I think everyone would agree on that," Lee > said. > "It was really just a lot of talking. A lot of hubbub going on. It all seemed > like a bit too much fuss. Everyone is getting comfortable and debugging the > equipment. > A lot of conversations are happening. A lot more talk than writing, at this > stage, which is what needs to go down." > As Rush finds its footing, the myriad assistants and techs will gradually be > excused and the three will begin work in earnest. > "We will strip everything right down. Once everything is up and running (in > the studio), we will just have someone around for equipment problems. But > we will try to keep it as low-key as humanly possible," he said. > "We're trying to make this session as casual and relaxed as possible, > considering all that has gone down in the last number of years, I think that > is extremely important for us, to keep things emotionally humane." > The band's last performance was July 4, 1997 at Ottawa's Corel Centre, the > final date in support of their Test For Echo album. Following that, Peart > endured two tragedies the death of his daughter in a car crash and the loss > of his wife due to cancer, which triggered the group's open-ended hiatus. > In light of that, Lee said it is crucial that the three keep a casual, > low-pressure approach to the sessions, which will hopefully yield the > group's 17th studio album. > "This project is about so much more than us making a record," Lee said. > "It is about us coming back together. It is about the psychological health and > welfare of all the people who have gone through a very difficult time...I > want it to happen, and I want it to happen in a very positive and natural > way." > Given that approach, the last thing on anyone's mind is when to expect a > new record. > "I have totally thrown the timetable out," he said. "I insisted that be the case > with this project ... I think the pressure of deadline is exceedingly > inappropriate at this time in our career." Brian PS: Can't you get 42 from 2112 somehow?