From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest) Subject: Level42 Digest V2001 #209 _ ____ _ ____ _ _ ___ // //__ // / //__ // /__// __// //__ //__ \\_/ //__ //__ // /__ D I G E S T Level42 Digest Volume 2001 : Issue 209 1259 subscribers Today's topics: Danny Wilson, Winston Walker oh, the humanity Tom Trudell Instrumental Jabs from Phil Moores Jeff Lorber bassist ZW75 Phil, the lyricist Don Z Phil's drum loops Don Z ------------------------------ Subject: Danny Wilson, From: "Winston Walker" Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 10:44:56 -0400 Nigel, the bassist on the Jeff Lorber Fusion's 'Wizard Island' CD is 'Danny Wilson. The rest of the Lineup is as follows: Jeff Lrober - keys, Dennis Bradford - drums, Kenny Gorelick (G) on flute, and saxes. Gotta agre with a few people on the Phil lyrical situation. Sure Phil mave had said that one tune, or two was written about his relationship with Mark, but it seems some people are giving Phil a lot more credit. Until Phil talks about it, i will not assume i know the meaning behind his written words. Thats the cool thing about lyrics, everyone can have their own interpretation of them, then realize 10 years later that you were singin the words wrong. haha I learned about Osiris weighing souls, long before I ever purchased a record. Some people do read ya know...granted it was a comic book, but that is reading, right? JC Tables...I think DON Z is correct. Some venues do this in NYC, because what happens is 20 people reserve tables, then the night of the gig, they dont show up, and dont bother calling, because they havent been charged. SO that leaves the venue with no bookings. Some venues cant afford to hope for people off the street the night of the gig, so they will lose money. I cant imagine too many people going to the Jazz Cafe ONLY for a meal. :-) Win ------------------------------ Subject: oh, the humanity From: Tom Trudell Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 08:35:11 -0700 Hi y'all, I hope you are all well and having excellent musical adventures. Phil's lyrics are much much better than average, in my opinion. The individual who criticized them could illuminate his/her position by providing a few examples of what lyricists really float their boat, so to speak . . . if not Phil then who? Or is that "whom?" And now, in an attempt to alleviate the golden stream of piffle, I humbly present for your dilectation, the playlist from last night's Grooveyard radio show, 91.9 KMUN in Astoria, OR 1. Eddie Harris - It's All Right Now 2. Cymande - The Message 3. Angelique Kidjo - Bitchifi 4. Ken DeRouchie Band - Get With You 5. the Meters - Just Kissed My Baby 6. Dr. Villock - Hervon 7. Heavy Brothers - Heavy Brother 8. Kool & the Gang - NT 9. Chris Botti - Regroovable 10. theme from Dukes of Hazzard 11. theme from the Love Boat 12. theme from Starsky and Hutch 13. Maxine Nightingale - Right Back Where We Started From 14. Yello - Oh, Yeah 15. the Buggles - Video Killed the Radio Star 16. King Crimson - Elephant Talk 17. Level 42 - Standing in the Light 18. Brand New Heavies - Have a Good Time 19. Swing Out Sister - Better Make it Better 20. Simply Red - Money's Too Tight to Mention 21. Thomas Dolby - Close but no Cigar 22. Joe Satriani - Flying in a Blue Dream 23. Beat Farmers - Happy Boy 24. Johnny Cash - I Walk the Line 25. theme from "Jeeves and Wooster" 26. Hugh Laurie - 47 Ginger Headed Sailors 27. theme from the Benny Hill show gotta love public radio! take care then, -Tom ------------------------------ Subject: Instrumental Jabs from Phil From: "Moores" Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 11:37:19 -0700 >"I'm also a bit sick of interpreting every song as a jab from Phil >at Mark. Sure, they didn't see eye to eye on everything, but I >just can't imagine Phil being so obsessed with this friction that >that's all he wrote about." > >if you really think that then you are being incredibly naive, On a lighter note, has anybody really "dissected" their early instrumental tunes like "Sandstorm", "Theme to Margaret", "Beezer Town", and "Heathrow". Listen to how Phil plays his drums in each tune and I'm sure you'll be convinced that he's "jabbing Mark everytime he hits a tom or a crash cymbal. From the sound of his high hat in "Heathrow" I'm just waiting for him to explode and start cussing out Mark in the middle of the song. It's not an instrumental but I'm sure that "run" down his toms at the beginning of "Dance on Heavy Weather" was solely directed at Mark in jest. C'mon Royal ------------------------------ Subject: Jeff Lorber bassist From: ZW75 @ aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 15:40:12 EDT Hey Nigel, I have been a longtime fan of Jeff Lorber, too. The bassist of Jeff Lorber Fusion on "Water Sign", "Wizard Island", and "Galaxian" is Danny Wilson. When he recorded and toured with the JLF, he was in his early twenties!!! He's probably around MK age. I loved the bass solo on "Can't Get Enough" from "Wizard Island". I had the opportunity to see Jeff Lorber in concert a few weeks back in Portland, Oregon. It was nice. He had Nate Phillips on bass from Pleasure, an ol'skool funk/R&B band, Rayford Griffin on drums(he played with Jean Luc Ponty). The other cats were tite, too. Check out his website at www.lorber.com. I saw he is coming to London soon, so check out the site. Level 42 content: How did it take for people to get the Live at Gillingham CD? It's been a few weeks and haven't got it yet. About the lyric analysis, I never thought about some of the songs that way. Most are pretty simple where others are more complex like "Eyes Waterfalling", "Are you hearing..." Peace, Zanchie ------------------------------ Subject: Phil, the lyricist From: Don Z Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 13:10:28 -0700 (PDT) > Okay so he's no Shakespeare, but don't you like "A > Floating Life"? Or "Hours By the Window"? Or "Kansas > City Milkman"? I think Phil wrote some pretty good lyrics in general, but there always seems to be some imperfection. KCM, for instance, is indeed about much more than a milkman in Kansas City. But I always wondered why he chose that particular symbol--we haven't had home milk delivery in the US since the sixties. It makes an otherwise great song sound silly. Also, in RITF, I think all the lines are great except that stupid one about Joseph & Emily on the back seat. Who the hell are they? With little effort, he could have come up with something better. >> his reliance on simple rhyme patterns > > "How can it be that a love carved out of caring.... SAY definitely has some nice words, well-excuted without rhyme, but Phil didn't write them...Boon did. As Mark himself put it: "Boon wrote the lyrics, which are fantastic. But Phil had been the main lyricist. So the seeds of discontent were sown." I think Phil was a master of metaphor, but I often wish he had spent more time polishing things up. There are too many silly lines in L42 songs. Just MHO - Don Z. donzipf @ aol.com http://members.aol.com/donworld __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Subject: Phil's drum loops From: Don Z Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 22:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Just received this announcement: Phil Gould on Drums - Former Level 42 drummer lays out a massive collection of beats & hits! Format: Audio, .wav & AIFF Regular Price $99.95 Summer Blowout Special $29.95 www.bigfishaudio.com Heck of a deal for this set. I paid $50 a while back, and it was well worth that. 2 discs: one audio-format and one sampler-formats. Anybody who does loop-based production definitely should get it! Cheers - Z. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/