From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest) Subject: Level42 Digest V2001 #19 _ ____ _ ____ _ _ ___ // //__ // / //__ // /__// __// //__ //__ \\_/ //__ //__ // /__ D I G E S T Level42 Digest Volume 2001 : Issue 19 1383 subscribers Today's topics: Gum Nigel Collier leave my wrigleys out of it! Spencer, Paul Hic richard.west Days Of Thunder Andrew Goodwin Women and Bass vs. Drums Eric Pseja Starchild 2001 Stephen.Whyte I hate the audience Marcus.Bone instumental love goldie100 Stinkers JuJuGuru politeness is free Erik Terheggen Re: Level42 Digest V2001 #18 William Burnett Ben Gay EMIKATIE Barbarella EMIKATIE ------------------------------ Subject: Gum From: "Nigel Collier" Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:17:51 -0000 I went to see my friend and sometime bass tutor play some jazz at a cafe not so long ago. I was talking with him and the keyboard player and....like the predictable proselytizer I am....steered the conversation around to Mark King. One of the first things the two musicians both mentioned was the fact that he chewed gum whilst playing. Of all the attributes these two very good musicians could have recalled about Mark, they mentioned the gum - not that he was a drummer, nor that he played EVERYTHING on some of his solo stuff, nor that he was actually left-handed. They both seemed to be _impressed_ that he could chew gum whilst playing. I'm still puzzled. Is that hard to do? BTW, where's Bilal these days? Nigel ------------------------------ Subject: leave my wrigleys out of it! From: "Spencer, Paul" Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:39:21 +0000 (GMT) Steve offered us this; >Subject: DRYING UP ON STAGE >From: "Randall, Steve" >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:38:41 -0000 >Being a singer of many years standing I am well aware that >one's mouth can >dry up. However, most singers in bands have a drinks >bottle which they >resort to in the blackout at the end of a number. Club and >pub bands resort >to a mouth full of beer between verses. >Chewing gum is disgusting and it's about time it was banned >anyway. It's worst than smoking, and makes a mess when >thrown on the ground. Easy tiger! I don't recall saying anything whatsoever on the morality of chewing gum, I was just pointing out that this appears to be the method of choice for lubricating the working parts of MK gob during his singing performances. If you look closely, he chews gum throughout the 'live at wembley' video (especially during the bass solo). Please climb down from that moral pedestal:- you'll hurt yourself if you fall. Then the gum debate continues with.... >Subject: Non Smoker!!!! >From: ChrisMurgy @ aol.com >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:04:48 EST >Quote just before encore >"Yes I smoke! It's OK - I can give up, I've given up >hundreds of times" Oh he's such a kidder! Maybe by the time it got to the crystal palace gig, he had given in to the evil temptation that is smoking (can you tell I was a twenty a dayer!) because I swear I heard MK say in the 'fait accompli' video that he didn't drink, didn't smoke and worked out. Maybe my eyes and ears deceive me. Let me be clear, I don't care whether you love gum or hate gum, I was merely commenting on a possible explanation as to why he was chewing, but I take my hat off to Ed who offered us these possible reasons:- "My theories as to Why he chews gum are: 1- when you can do 5 impossible things, why not add another? 2- when you take drugs to play that fast, you chew a lot; 3- he sings a different rhythm to that which he plays: maybe he chews in a cross rhythm, and maybe that helps; 4- perhaps he sticks something in his gob to prevent Jarrett murmuring into the vocal mike, or maybe to stop himself from going "deo, deeeeee-o" all the time." Finally, I will add another of my own; maybe he has gum in his mouth to offer some flavour to the bottom lip that he also seems to chew! I'll sit back now and watch the furore unfold and I'll enjoy it too! :) paul.. ---------------------------------------- Paul Spencer research student uwe, bristol ------------------------------ Subject: Hic From: richard.west @ westsig.co.uk Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:30:26 +0000 >However, most singers in bands have a drinks bottle Or in John Entwistle's 'Too Late the Hero' days, two cycle-flasks -- one containing white wine and the other Southern Comfort... >1- when you can do 5 impossible things, why not add another? And if you've done six impossible things this morning, why not round it off with breakfast at Milliway's -- the Restaurant at the End of the Universe ------------------------------ Subject: Days Of Thunder From: "Andrew Goodwin" Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:26:43 -0000 >Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2001 #17 >From: "Laurence F. GREEN(SED)" > >Alexi Sayle - I think the track was 'Hello John I have got a new motor'. That must have been the Fred the Slim Pickens bass player Grammatically Precise Remix. AG PS Do all keep up with this bassists vs drummers stuff. Most diverting to those of us who know there’s only one instrument really worth being able to play. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Subject: Women and Bass vs. Drums From: "Eric Pseja" Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:03:12 -0500 In my past experiences, I've found (and seen) that drummers usually get the easy trashy girls while bassists get the needy emotionally scarred girls. Lesson: Musicians - don't look for your wife in the crowd at a gig. +EPseja+ ------------------------------ Subject: Starchild 2001 From: Stephen.Whyte @ pearsontv.com Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:17:38 +0000 Hi folks Just for the record, I went into the Virgin Megastore on Oxford St. the other day and asked about the BMR + L42 'Starchild' release. Sadly, they had no listing for such a release, and have no idea when it may appear. If anyone has any info, then please let me know. I'd love to hear it, never mind own it! Cheers Steve *************************************************************************************** This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person: to do so could be a breach of confidence. 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The sort of "I hate the audience" attitude >> one expects from The Beautiful South, not L42. >There is a bona fide reason for Mark to chew gum and not >because he was dying for a cig (he's a non-smoker). > >One's throat and mouth become pretty dry after a while of >hurling your voice (you try for an hour or two!), so the >gum provides that welcome relief of extra saliva to >lubricate the working parts! > >Hope that this clears that little anomaly up then.. I think Mark still smoked at the time of the Gauranteed Live video - maybe someone should start selling bottled saliva?- but however while talking about people who hate the audience we must not forget Van Morrison! Later Marcus Bone ------------------------------ Subject: instumental love From: "goldie100" Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:32:43 -0000 Hi all, I once know of a bass player who certainly got more drummers than women - but then that was a heterosexual woman! and she never did give me any advice on bass playing OR drumming. And she certainly didn't look like she was doing the five knuckle shuffle when she played, either!!. Ha ha, I just KNEW the response I would get from you lot - you are so predictable! especially you, Friesen. When I read my mailing I realised my grammatical error, and decided to leave it unchanged - and you lot didn't disappoint. I think, regarding the 'ferry aid' thing - the person asking the original question about the unknown track had already stated that it wasn't 'ferry aid' he was talking about - he probably got really pissed off with a couple of people jumping the gun and saying "it was 'ferry aid'"!!!!!!!!!!. Loz Green is right (yeah, I did just say that) regarding album covers. The later ones were pure pants. For real decent art work you must look to the earlier singles. As for crap tunes, I really think it is all down to personal choice. Personally, IMHO 'weave your spell' is one of the best. 'Love games' and 'The chinese way' are best heard live - ditto 'Hot water'. Hang on, I think I have said all this before. Cheers, Lozzie xxx ------------------------------ Subject: Stinkers From: JuJuGuru @ aol.com Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:57:26 EST >Subject: The Crap Tunes Game >From: "David Robertson" >Organization: Dundee University >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:21:41 -0000 >I think the Crap Tunes list is an interesting little exercise. So here >are some stinkers - >Flying on the Wings of Love >Woman >Starchild >Weave Your Spell - the instrumental break is great though >Dance on Heavy Weather >Can't Walk You Home >Tracie >She Can't Help Herself >There was a really horrible one on Forever Now which isn't on the >Resurgence reissue. I can't remember it now but it really sucked. The worst Level 42 song of all time has to be 'Time Will Heal' and that was on the Resurgence album. Top 5 stinkers..... 1. time will heal 2. the ape 3. tracie 4. at this great distance 5. learn to say no Some people probably love these tracks but I look at it this way; if somebody had never heard Level 42 and then they heard one of these and then something like 'return of the handsome rugged man' they'd never believe it was the same band. ------------------------------ Subject: politeness is free From: Erik Terheggen Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:05:54 -0800 (PST) Mike (Sydney City Milkman) wrote: >Or maybe you're just a rude git? How would I know? >Mate, would it kill you to respond to someone's offer of >information or help after you requested it? Even if it's >"thanks but no thanks." On the occasions I've asked for >info on the Digest, I've always replied to those >who responded to my question. Call me precious, Erik, >but politeness is free. And necessary in an environment >like the Digest. Mike, Another form op politeness would be sending me your complaint in private instead of through the digest. (this is not L42 related is it ?) I am thankfull for your reply to my request and your offer, a lot of others replied as well and I thanked them all, and forgot to thank you, for which I am trully sorry. Erik T. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2001 #18 From: William Burnett Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:34:33 +0000 In message <20010119110002.3296.qmail @ mail.worldmachine.com>, Level42 Digest writes >Subject: Bassists and drummers >From: "Smart" >Lozzie - as a drummer I can categorically state that I've never been had by a >bassist... Where, as a bassist, I can categorically state that I'm regularly had by my drummer - usually just after he counts us in. -- ======================================================================== William Burnett http://www.sphere3.co.uk/ ======================================================================== ------------------------------ Subject: Ben Gay From: EMIKATIE @ aol.com Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:53:31 EST Loz, you wrote.... > assume that all the members of Level 42 old and new are gay, and > that on the occasions > of their marriages and child rearing, they temporarily surrendered their > sexual > status in order to > conform with so called sociological norms. Are you saying Boon is in love with a guy named Norm? John ------------------------------ Subject: Barbarella From: EMIKATIE @ aol.com Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 19:11:09 EST Alex wrote: > 3. > Yes, bass players do attract more women. But then they always come up with > some > line like "see you at the bar," and we all know that that marks the end of > the > relationship. Does that phrase also pertain to "see you at the tavern"? Actually, the phrase "see you at the bar" is now commonly used to give someone the slip. I've seen it myself on a recent Seinfeld re-run. (is that an oxymoron?) Also, if you re-re-re watch This is Spinal Tap, you'll come across the reference towards the middle of the movie.... or was that one of the deleted scenes..... Anyway Alex, next time I come to Toronto, I'll see you at the Horseshoe Tavern. John