From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest) Subject: Level42 Digest V2001 #164 _ ____ _ ____ _ _ ___ // //__ // / //__ // /__// __// //__ //__ \\_/ //__ //__ // /__ D I G E S T Level42 Digest Volume 2001 : Issue 164 1260 subscribers Today's topics: Re: Group sax Steve Robson off the digest Jeff Mahoney WARNING: contains the word 'bollocks' Mike Bartlett RUNAWAY BRIDE l.godderidge Gil Scott Heron Eric Pseja Astrology is Rubbish Randall, Steve Presidents of the United States of America Tom Trudell HIstory Brian Flint Y-Chromo Promo Phil Jarvis DVD & Y Chromo Boyz Stuart Holman Which code is the DVD? Byron Wong Starman Andrew Goodwin ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Group sax From: Steve Robson Organization: Cadence Design Systems Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:46:57 +0100 >Subject: Group sax >From: Don Z >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:38:20 -0700 (PDT) > >The occasional use of sax was cool (like the soprano >in "With a Little Love"), but I never really liked >Level 42 with horns, to be honest. > >Cheers - Z. Me neither. I always thought the brass section was too much "in yer face". Just the one sax, Mrs. Wembley. Regards, Steve IT Support - UNIX Cadence Design Systems Tel: +44 (0)1344 866523 Bagshot Road Mobile: +44 (0)7901 855046 Bracknell BERKSHIRE Fax: +44 (0)1344 866588 RG12 0PH UK ------------------------------ Subject: off the digest From: "Jeff Mahoney" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:50:58 +1000 Hi I cannot remember when I have hang out waiting for the digest.it is hilarious at the momement. of course it all started with Radiohead and i was going to KILL and maybe LOZ you got your wish to liven up things........OFF the digest as you know and on the digest....... but it has become a funny place to be and everybody that has thrown there bit in Thanks..... but don't anybody slag Gil Scott Heron because I will take my Mike And Mark wolley ear muffs off and it will get lively. One thing I am disappointed with is that no one has really answered Mike the Sydney City Milkmans excellent question about there top 5 concerts..... this was one of the best questions I have seen on here for ages.......please don't over look this question Pissin' in my boxers an impeccable piss Jeff ------------------------------ Subject: WARNING: contains the word 'bollocks' From: "Mike Bartlett" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:00:54 Hey chaps.... ....firstly, I'd like to say how thrilled I am to see Lawrence back in this online mosh pit that is the Digest. I told you he'd ignore my post (Digest # 160) and I was right. Wonder if he'll ignore this one? Prob'ly. And now for some complete and utter bollocks: William and Lozzie - nice posts, you funny buggers! Jeff Mahoney - you're a geezer whose musical taste I've always had a lot of time for - do you think you could record some of that there Gil Scott-Heron gear for me? It sounds fab in a groovy kind of way. I'd obviously give you a replacement CD, postage costs and a naked picture of myself. Did you like the last one - it took me ages to get that monkey to keep still.... Chris Lawless - I read with some interest (not a lot, just some) your list of fave sticksmen. Cozy Powell is not a name you hear every day - then again, neither is Foghorn Leghorn, so what does that prove? Hmmmm. Anyway, I remember him releasing a single called "Dance With The Devil" in the UK a hundred years ago (Cozy, not Foghorn), when I was knee-high to a dog's bollocks. I played it almost non-stop and vaguely recall him appearing on Top Of The Pops, probably between The Osmonds' "Crazy Horses" and Gary Glitter's "I Love You Love Me Love". My big brother took me to a gig where Cozy was playing in some band (?) and I remember thinking he was a mad bastard with five arms (Cozy, not my brother). Did you know Cozy was killed a couple of years ago when he lost control of his Range Rover on a British motorway? The cops put it down to the fact that he was talking on his mobile phone at the time. I wonder if he was related to Don Powell, the drummer out of Slade - weird to think that he too was involved in a car crash that left him with a half hour memory span. Nice post, mate - sorry I couldn't answer any of your questions but I'm really not that bright. And now for the obligatory Level 42 content: I was talking with my mate RJ the other day about what question we'd ask Mark if we saw him. My first question would be "Will you please give me all your bass guitars?" When he finished slapping me, I'd ask him "Why didn't Level 42 play at Live Aid?" In the anticipated absence of a response from the man with the plan, does anyone else know the answer? And what would your question to Mark be? Girls, no asking how big his nob is, 'cos that's just plain rude. On a spooky note, did you know that Jaco Pastorius's son John was born on Mark's 15th birthday - 20 October 1973? Spookier still, Jaco died on the day I arrived in Australia - 21 September 1987 (I'd like to stress that the two incidents are entirely unrelated). AND my son Jack has the same right-angle making triple-jointed thumbs as Jaco had. Just ask RJ - she has a photo! I went to an Oasis gig in Sydney a couple of years ago and the last words Liam 'Tossbag' Gallagher said, in his twatty nasal Mancunian tone, were "Thassit, ya fuckers, we're out of 'ere." Do any other readers recall a band's amusing, ugly, weird or otherwise memorable final words at a gig? Do I win a fiver? Fantastic crowd ~ Mike (Sydney City Milkman, aka Fretbuzz) P.S. Joke for English digesters - did you hear about the bloke who got run over by a steam train? He was chuffed to bits.... P.P.S All this talk of Level 42 dreams is making me nervous.... P.P.P.S. I think P.P.S. is about as far as anyone should go.... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Subject: RUNAWAY BRIDE From: l.godderidge @ talk21.com Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:26:11 +0100 Hi there again Digesters, Just wandering if anyone has seen the film Runaway Bride starring Julia Roberts and Richard Gere. Can anyone tell me who performs the films' soundtrack? I know Go West performed the Pretty Woman one. Having seen the film three times. Any info would be appreciated on this subject. So get in touch please. Cheers Lesley PS. Rather fancy a garlic and mushroom pizza today. ---Open Email - Email on your TV with talk21--- ------------------------------ Subject: Gil Scott Heron From: "Eric Pseja" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:19:30 -0400 Just saw Gil Scott in NYC this past Martin Luther King Day. The whole band is excellent and not to be missed if you get the chance to see them! Be prepared to groove. +EPseja+ ------------------------------ Subject: Astrology is Rubbish From: "Randall, Steve" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:40:56 -0400 WARNING WARNING WARNING NON LIGHTHOUSE FAMILY CONTENT PLEASE PAGE DOWN NOW WARNING WARNING WARNING \/ V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V WARNING WARNING So Lawrence, astrology is utter rubbish? No doubt you disbelieved all the statistical evidence of Michael Guquilon (French bloke but I don't think I've spelt it right, but I have the book at home and will look tonight) He was trying to debunk astrology but found statistically significant evidence in favour of it. Luckily he had an open mind and did not dismiss it, and of course he had arranged his own statistical perameters so was satisfied with them. Librans of course, are good leaders as they, although being driving and bossy, do weigh everything up, (the scales) but sometimes can never reach a decision. Every time we started a new term my astrology teacher would ask "Are there any librans here" Only once was there ever and answer. All the other times she said "There you are, couldn't make up their mind whether to come or not". I grant you horoscopes in newspapers and magazines are dubious, especially when just made up by people with no astrological knowledge whatsoever. However they can apply if other planets do not counteract the sun sign, which is the only thing considered in a zodiac newspaper type horoscope. Sometimes they can apply a day earlier or later if your sun is away from the centre of the sign, or another sign will apply if that is your moon sign or ascendant, or there some other phenomenon, such as a Jones pattern, on the chart. Some traditional beliefs, of course, were disproved by an 80s survey in I think, The Independent, but other things were noted, like the fact that a statistically significant number of barmaids were Piscean, similarly miners were Sagittarians. Guquilan found this link with career army officers with Aries on the ascendant. Perhaps I should do the boys charts. I haven't done one since the 80s as I also have a life. You would never get out the door if you consulted the Ephemeris (or computer now) every time you wanted to do anything. Good idea to pick a good day for a job interview though and always start a new project on a new moon. I believe there is research being done at present (I heard it on Radio 4) with moon cycles and traditional planting times. And of course the "Three wise men" were reputed to be astrologers. Who else would recognise a Saturn / Jupiter conjunction above a certain stable (and everywhere else on the globe) for what it was in 4 ad. (or was it bc?) Sorry here it is, it was 7bc http://www.athenasweb.com/1999/columns/Column051499.html Nice chart of the Star of Bethlehem! Of course then the argument of destiny / free will comes up again, but "the planets incline, not compel" So then astrology, are we to say, is a prop for those who cannot take responsibility for their own lives, as could be argued, is religion. I use it as perhaps a reason as to why something might have happened, not a reason for my existence, which I believe to be to pass on my genes. Obviously one tries to help and not hinder ones fellow man (or L42 fan) on the way. Didn't Voltare (1694 - 1778) say "If God did not exist, man would have to invent Him" ? DIFFERENT THREAD I found this site by accident when looking for the French geysers name. I don't know why the site has this name, it appears to have nothing to do with Jesus, but boy, is this guy screwed up. He has less of a life than we do. I thought I was sad but you all might as well chuckle along with me www.livejournal.com/~sexualjesus I'm sorry for the long spiel and the lack of lighthouse family content but I had to rise to the bait. And I am fed up with best fives. My one desert island disc incidentally would be Theme To Margaret - boy I just put "Theme to Mark" Freudian or what? DANGER PAST DANGER PAST DANGER PAST DANGER PAST DANGER PAST CARRY ON READING DANGER PAST DANGER PAST DANGER PAST ------------------------------ Subject: Presidents of the United States of America From: Tom Trudell Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:16:33 -0700 OK, It doesn't really matter who the American president was or is. America is about the man and woman in the street who works hard and drinks beer on the weekends. Watch your TV, buy those products, and let some corporate whore in a suit play monopoly with the world. To really understand America, all you have to know is that we have 5% of the world's population, and we consume over 25% of the world's resources, and make 25% of its trash. Those statistics kind of disgust me. Speaking of trash, here's a vote for Trash 2. -Tom > Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2001 #161 > From: "Laurence F. GREEN(SED)" > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:43:42 +0100 > > Following on the fashion of completely non Level 42 posts. > > It appears you USAmericans do have some interesting history after all (gasp). > You literally don't > know how many presidents you have had (ROTFL) > > #12 David Rice Atchison > #13 Millard Fillmore > > But it might have been > #13 Zachary Taylor - > > Depending on how long #12 was there. Apparently though, you didn't even know > about #12!!!!!! > (SROTFL) > > Just HAVE to stick up for my colonial cousins!!! For no greater reason that that > I love Maple syrup. > > Anywa, will Mark play Ryde this year? That is the big question. > > L()Z > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Laurence Green ------------------------------ Subject: HIstory From: "Brian Flint" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:25:35 In response to LOZ and less seriously, to Alex, I think it's prudent to point out that one's knowledge of history is usually more detailed in regards to other nations and other civilazations. For instance, I could care less how many presidents we've had, and who's "(Insert adjective here) Deal" was most effective. Or which president's motto was stolen from paris etc. It would be akin to you Brit's being mistaken in your own history, for instance, you call it the GREat Insurrection, or rebellion if you will. However, I know enough about our history to know we have no culture whatsoever, aside from so good Jazz, everything else is stolen, so, that being said. We can still conquer anyone we want. Why did we need your help in Iraq? Well, We didn't want to risk breaking any more of our toys that we needed to. Gaius Marius was a smart man, the only way he could ensure being Senior Consul 7 times, was to make the Roman's believe he was the only one that could protect Rome from all their nasty little enemies. So, British friends, next time Holland decides to launch it's troop (or maybe they have two now) against your shores, ask yourself, who is Gaius MArius today, and then give us a call. YEs, I've always known that Neil Peart et al is Canadian, but I also now that Alanis Morrisette is too and you'll never live that down. So deal. Peace on earth, through tough love Bri _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Subject: Y-Chromo Promo From: "Phil Jarvis" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:34:42

Hi Guys,

I thaught that I'd better put a message up to say that all of those people who have tried to buy the YCB album and have failed at the shopping cart button, I have finally discovered what the problem was. I built the page using dreamweaver and that button requires Shockwave flash to be installed on your computer.Therefore, I have now changed the button, and there should be no problems getting through to the shopping cart now! - So please feel free to order again!

The band got together for a first bout of intensive rehearsels for the album launch gig last weekend(08/07/2001 - Sudbury-UK) - there's some piccys up on the site if your interested, here's the link:

http://www.y-chromo-boyz.com/YCB_Rehearsels.htm

Thanks again to everybody who has bought the album so far - hope you are still enjoying it! - and for those that still haven't - here's the link:

http://www.y-chromo-boyz.com/YCB_Album_Ecommerce.htm

 

Cheers,

Phil


 



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------------------------------ Subject: DVD & Y Chromo Boyz From: "Stuart Holman" Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:17:13 +0100 Great news re the DVD - I knew he'd give in eventually! My PC is too slow for the CDROM and having just bought a Playstation 2 for the kids I am now in business! Any digesters going to YCB's opening gig in Sudbury? If any of you fancy meeting up before hand drop me a line. All the best. Stu ------------------------------ Subject: Which code is the DVD? From: Byron Wong Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Hi Everyone! Does anyone know which code/region the 2000 Isle of Wight DVD is? Thanks. >>Byron _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Subject: Starman From: "Andrew Goodwin" Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:25:19 +0100 >Subject: Lawrence, M.I.A. >From: "Mike Bartlett" > >P.S. Can anyone tell me if Mark plays fretless bass on Lasso The Bastard >Moon? I missed it the other 37 times. You should have been here for the Mission Impossible 2 debacle. Maybe you were, I seem to have mislaid my When Everybody Joined the Digest almanac. >Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2001 #162 >From: "Laurence F. GREEN(SED)" > >My Radiohead jibe was an attempt at livening things up, but no-one took the >bait Try cracking a joke which includes the words ‘bowler hat’, that seems to wake up an awful lot of people. I was hoping the "knowing the minutiae of the band vs retaining the mystique of the creative process" one might go somewhere, more fool me. But there’s always the Top 5 Keyboard Players one if I ever really need a laugh. >Subject: The Gauntlet >From: alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca With a soundtrack featuring the greatest sax player of them all Art Pepper, no less. Have a gold star. >But did you know that two days ago? Line of the Day nominee 1. >Subject: Guaranteed >From: "Mario Angeli" > >ps: I feel louthed to admit this but I think I'm beginning to like >Guaranteed. Seven Years and With a little love are decent tunes. Does this >mean I'm getting old? No, but possibly hard of hearing. From time to time I give Guaranteed a listen, just to see whether I’m doing it a disservice. I did this a couple of nights ago and found to my horror that it’s even worse than I remembered it. I’m not trying to be contentious here (contentious, moi?), I just find it an utterly uninspired piece of work in comparison with the rest of their oeuvre. Anyway, let’s not do the whole Guaranteed thing again just now, that really has been flogged to death recently. >Subject: dust to dust. >From: William Burnett > >Meanwhile the trilby and deerstalker industry is facing ruin as >they too suffer a complete ban on the movement of headgear around the >country. Line of the Day nominee 2. AG PS Astrology is great, isn’t it? No really, it is. PPS It’s that time of year again – that "Where the hell do I find the money for a season ticket?" feeling has descended upon me. As such I have a vast amount of 12" singles up on eBay looking for a shiny new home. All manner of old 80s cobblers which should appeal to those of curious taste round here – Rick Astley, Cathy Dennis (with dreamy calendar photos no less), Go West, Howard Jones, Incognito, Living In A Box, Pet Shop Boys, a few Shakatak for Laurence, and there’s even a couple of Lighthouse Family for the tone deaf amongst you. http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=aaarghh!&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows If that link doesn't work search under seller "aaarghh!". 10% off to Digesters. This has been an advert, so let me just say "Y Chromo Boyz" to legitimise it. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.