From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest)
Subject: Level42 Digest V2001 #164
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D I G E S T
Level42 Digest Volume 2001 : Issue 164
1260 subscribers
Today's topics:
Re: Group sax Steve Robson
off the digest Jeff Mahoney
WARNING: contains the word 'bollocks' Mike Bartlett
RUNAWAY BRIDE l.godderidge
Gil Scott Heron Eric Pseja
Astrology is Rubbish Randall, Steve
Presidents of the United States of America Tom Trudell
HIstory Brian Flint
Y-Chromo Promo Phil Jarvis
DVD & Y Chromo Boyz Stuart Holman
Which code is the DVD? Byron Wong
Starman Andrew Goodwin
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Subject: Re: Group sax
From: Steve Robson
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:46:57 +0100
>Subject: Group sax
>From: Don Z
>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:38:20 -0700 (PDT)
>
>The occasional use of sax was cool (like the soprano
>in "With a Little Love"), but I never really liked
>Level 42 with horns, to be honest.
>
>Cheers - Z.
Me neither. I always thought the brass section was too much "in yer
face". Just the one sax, Mrs. Wembley.
Regards,
Steve
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Subject: off the digest
From: "Jeff Mahoney"
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:50:58 +1000
Hi
I cannot remember when I have hang out waiting for the digest.it is
hilarious at the momement.
of course it all started with Radiohead and i was going to KILL and maybe
LOZ
you got your wish to liven up things........OFF the digest as you know and
on the digest.......
but it has become a funny place to be and everybody that has thrown there
bit in Thanks.....
but don't anybody slag Gil Scott Heron because I will take my Mike And Mark
wolley ear muffs off and it will get lively.
One thing I am disappointed with is that no one has really answered Mike the
Sydney City Milkmans excellent question about there top 5 concerts.....
this was one of the best questions I have seen on here for ages.......please
don't over look this question
Pissin' in my boxers
an impeccable piss
Jeff
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Subject: WARNING: contains the word 'bollocks'
From: "Mike Bartlett"
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:00:54
Hey chaps....
....firstly, I'd like to say how thrilled I am to see Lawrence back in this
online mosh pit that is the Digest. I told you he'd ignore my post (Digest #
160) and I was right. Wonder if he'll ignore this one? Prob'ly. And now for
some complete and utter bollocks:
William and Lozzie - nice posts, you funny buggers!
Jeff Mahoney - you're a geezer whose musical taste I've always had a lot of
time for - do you think you could record some of that there Gil Scott-Heron
gear for me? It sounds fab in a groovy kind of way. I'd obviously give you a
replacement CD, postage costs and a naked picture of myself. Did you like
the last one - it took me ages to get that monkey to keep still....
Chris Lawless - I read with some interest (not a lot, just some) your list
of fave sticksmen. Cozy Powell is not a name you hear every day - then
again, neither is Foghorn Leghorn, so what does that prove? Hmmmm. Anyway, I
remember him releasing a single called "Dance With The Devil" in the UK a
hundred years ago (Cozy, not Foghorn), when I was knee-high to a dog's
bollocks. I played it almost non-stop and vaguely recall him appearing on
Top Of The Pops, probably between The Osmonds' "Crazy Horses" and Gary
Glitter's "I Love You Love Me Love". My big brother took me to a gig where
Cozy was playing in some band (?) and I remember thinking he was a mad
bastard with five arms (Cozy, not my brother). Did you know Cozy was killed
a couple of years ago when he lost control of his Range Rover on a British
motorway? The cops put it down to the fact that he was talking on his mobile
phone at the time. I wonder if he was related to Don Powell, the drummer out
of Slade - weird to think that he too was involved in a car crash that left
him with a half hour memory span. Nice post, mate - sorry I couldn't answer
any of your questions but I'm really not that bright.
And now for the obligatory Level 42 content: I was talking with my mate RJ
the other day about what question we'd ask Mark if we saw him. My first
question would be "Will you please give me all your bass guitars?" When he
finished slapping me, I'd ask him "Why didn't Level 42 play at Live Aid?" In
the anticipated absence of a response from the man with the plan, does
anyone else know the answer? And what would your question to Mark be? Girls,
no asking how big his nob is, 'cos that's just plain rude.
On a spooky note, did you know that Jaco Pastorius's son John was born on
Mark's 15th birthday - 20 October 1973? Spookier still, Jaco died on the day
I arrived in Australia - 21 September 1987 (I'd like to stress that the two
incidents are entirely unrelated). AND my son Jack has the same right-angle
making triple-jointed thumbs as Jaco had. Just ask RJ - she has a photo!
I went to an Oasis gig in Sydney a couple of years ago and the last words
Liam 'Tossbag' Gallagher said, in his twatty nasal Mancunian tone, were
"Thassit, ya fuckers, we're out of 'ere." Do any other readers recall a
band's amusing, ugly, weird or otherwise memorable final words at a gig? Do
I win a fiver?
Fantastic crowd ~ Mike (Sydney City Milkman, aka Fretbuzz)
P.S. Joke for English digesters - did you hear about the bloke who got run
over by a steam train? He was chuffed to bits....
P.P.S All this talk of Level 42 dreams is making me nervous....
P.P.P.S. I think P.P.S. is about as far as anyone should go....
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Subject: RUNAWAY BRIDE
From: l.godderidge @ talk21.com
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:26:11 +0100
Hi there again Digesters,
Just wandering if anyone has seen the film Runaway Bride starring Julia Roberts
and Richard Gere. Can anyone tell me who performs the films' soundtrack?
I know Go West performed the Pretty Woman one.
Having seen the film three times.
Any info would be appreciated on this subject. So get in touch please.
Cheers Lesley
PS. Rather fancy a garlic and mushroom pizza today.
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Subject: Gil Scott Heron
From: "Eric Pseja"
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:19:30 -0400
Just saw Gil Scott in NYC this past Martin Luther King Day. The whole band
is excellent and not to be missed if you get the chance to see them! Be
prepared to groove.
+EPseja+
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Subject: Astrology is Rubbish
From: "Randall, Steve"
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:40:56 -0400
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So Lawrence, astrology is utter rubbish? No doubt you disbelieved all the
statistical evidence of Michael Guquilon (French bloke but I don't think
I've spelt it right, but I have the book at home and will look tonight) He
was trying to debunk astrology but found statistically significant evidence
in favour of it. Luckily he had an open mind and did not dismiss it, and of
course he had arranged his own statistical perameters so was satisfied with
them.
Librans of course, are good leaders as they, although being driving and
bossy, do weigh everything up, (the scales) but sometimes can never reach a
decision. Every time we started a new term my astrology teacher would ask
"Are there any librans here" Only once was there ever and answer. All the
other times she said "There you are, couldn't make up their mind whether to
come or not".
I grant you horoscopes in newspapers and magazines are dubious, especially
when just made up by people with no astrological knowledge whatsoever.
However they can apply if other planets do not counteract the sun sign,
which is the only thing considered in a zodiac newspaper type horoscope.
Sometimes they can apply a day earlier or later if your sun is away from the
centre of the sign, or another sign will apply if that is your moon sign or
ascendant, or there some other phenomenon, such as a Jones pattern, on the
chart.
Some traditional beliefs, of course, were disproved by an 80s survey in I
think, The Independent, but other things were noted, like the fact that a
statistically significant number of barmaids were Piscean, similarly miners
were Sagittarians. Guquilan found this link with career army officers with
Aries on the ascendant.
Perhaps I should do the boys charts. I haven't done one since the 80s as I
also have a life. You would never get out the door if you consulted the
Ephemeris (or computer now) every time you wanted to do anything. Good idea
to pick a good day for a job interview though and always start a new project
on a new moon. I believe there is research being done at present (I heard it
on Radio 4) with moon cycles and traditional planting times. And of course
the "Three wise men" were reputed to be astrologers. Who else would
recognise a Saturn / Jupiter conjunction above a certain stable (and
everywhere else on the globe) for what it was in 4 ad. (or was it bc?) Sorry
here it is, it was 7bc
http://www.athenasweb.com/1999/columns/Column051499.html Nice
chart of the Star of Bethlehem!
Of course then the argument of destiny / free will comes up again, but "the
planets incline, not compel" So then astrology, are we to say, is a prop
for those who cannot take responsibility for their own lives, as could be
argued, is religion. I use it as perhaps a reason as to why something might
have happened, not a reason for my existence, which I believe to be to pass
on my genes. Obviously one tries to help and not hinder ones fellow man (or
L42 fan) on the way.
Didn't Voltare (1694 - 1778) say "If God did not exist, man would have to
invent Him" ?
DIFFERENT THREAD
I found this site by accident when looking for the French geysers name. I
don't know why the site has this name, it appears to have nothing to do with
Jesus, but boy, is this guy screwed up. He has less of a life than we do. I
thought I was sad but you all might as well chuckle along with me
www.livejournal.com/~sexualjesus
I'm sorry for the long spiel and the lack of lighthouse family content but I
had to rise to the bait. And I am fed up with best fives. My one desert
island disc incidentally would be Theme To Margaret - boy I just put "Theme
to Mark" Freudian or what?
DANGER PAST
DANGER PAST
DANGER PAST
DANGER PAST
DANGER PAST CARRY ON READING
DANGER PAST
DANGER PAST
DANGER PAST
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Subject: Presidents of the United States of America
From: Tom Trudell
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:16:33 -0700
OK,
It doesn't really matter who the American president was or is.
America is about the man and woman in the street who works hard and drinks beer
on
the weekends. Watch your TV, buy those products, and let some corporate whore in
a
suit play monopoly with the world.
To really understand America, all you have to know is that we have 5% of the
world's population, and we consume over 25% of the world's resources, and make
25%
of its trash. Those statistics kind of disgust me.
Speaking of trash, here's a vote for Trash 2.
-Tom
> Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2001 #161
> From: "Laurence F. GREEN(SED)"
> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:43:42 +0100
>
> Following on the fashion of completely non Level 42 posts.
>
> It appears you USAmericans do have some interesting history after all (gasp).
> You literally don't
> know how many presidents you have had (ROTFL)
>
> #12 David Rice Atchison
> #13 Millard Fillmore
>
> But it might have been
> #13 Zachary Taylor -
>
> Depending on how long #12 was there. Apparently though, you didn't even know
> about #12!!!!!!
> (SROTFL)
>
> Just HAVE to stick up for my colonial cousins!!! For no greater reason that
that
> I love Maple syrup.
>
> Anywa, will Mark play Ryde this year? That is the big question.
>
> L()Z
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Laurence Green
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Subject: HIstory
From: "Brian Flint"
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:25:35
In response to LOZ and less seriously, to Alex, I think it's prudent to
point out that one's knowledge of history is usually more detailed in
regards to other nations and other civilazations. For instance, I could care
less how many presidents we've had, and who's "(Insert adjective here) Deal"
was most effective. Or which president's motto was stolen from paris etc. It
would be akin to you Brit's being mistaken in your own history, for
instance, you call it the GREat Insurrection, or rebellion if you will.
However, I know enough about our history to know we have no culture
whatsoever, aside from so good Jazz, everything else is stolen, so, that
being said. We can still conquer anyone we want. Why did we need your help
in Iraq? Well, We didn't want to risk breaking any more of our toys that we
needed to. Gaius Marius was a smart man, the only way he could ensure being
Senior Consul 7 times, was to make the Roman's believe he was the only one
that could protect Rome from all their nasty little enemies. So, British
friends, next time Holland decides to launch it's troop (or maybe they have
two now) against your shores, ask yourself, who is Gaius MArius today, and
then give us a call.
YEs, I've always known that Neil Peart et al is Canadian, but I also now
that Alanis Morrisette is too and you'll never live that down. So deal.
Peace on earth, through tough love
Bri
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Subject: Y-Chromo Promo
From: "Phil Jarvis"
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:34:42
Hi Guys,
I thaught that I'd better put a message up to say that all of those people
who have tried to buy the YCB album and have failed at the shopping cart button,
I have finally discovered what the problem was. I built the page using
dreamweaver and that button requires Shockwave flash to be installed on your
computer.Therefore, I have now changed the button, and there should be no
problems getting through to the shopping cart now! - So please feel free to
order again!
The band got together for a first bout of intensive rehearsels for the album
launch gig last weekend(08/07/2001 - Sudbury-UK) - there's some piccys up on the
site if your interested, here's the link:
http://www.y-chromo-boyz.com/YCB_Rehearsels.htm
Thanks again to everybody who has bought the album so far - hope you are
still enjoying it! - and for those that still haven't - here's the link:
http://www.y-chromo-boyz.com/YCB_Album_Ecommerce.htm
Cheers,
Phil
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Subject: DVD & Y Chromo Boyz
From: "Stuart Holman"
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:17:13 +0100
Great news re the DVD - I knew he'd give in eventually!
My PC is too slow for the CDROM and having just bought a Playstation 2 for
the kids I am now in business!
Any digesters going to YCB's opening gig in Sudbury? If any of you fancy
meeting up before hand drop me a line.
All the best.
Stu
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Subject: Which code is the DVD?
From: Byron Wong
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:22:55 -0700 (PDT)
Hi Everyone!
Does anyone know which code/region the 2000 Isle of Wight DVD is?
Thanks.
>>Byron
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Subject: Starman
From: "Andrew Goodwin"
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:25:19 +0100
>Subject: Lawrence, M.I.A.
>From: "Mike Bartlett"
>
>P.S. Can anyone tell me if Mark plays fretless bass on Lasso The Bastard
>Moon? I missed it the other 37 times.
You should have been here for the Mission Impossible 2 debacle. Maybe you
were, I seem to have mislaid my When Everybody Joined the Digest almanac.
>Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2001 #162
>From: "Laurence F. GREEN(SED)"
>
>My Radiohead jibe was an attempt at livening things up, but no-one took the
>bait
Try cracking a joke which includes the words ‘bowler hat’, that seems to
wake up an awful lot of people. I was hoping the "knowing the minutiae of
the band vs retaining the mystique of the creative process" one might go
somewhere, more fool me. But there’s always the Top 5 Keyboard Players one
if I ever really need a laugh.
>Subject: The Gauntlet
>From: alex.friesen @ sickkids.ca
With a soundtrack featuring the greatest sax player of them all Art Pepper,
no less. Have a gold star.
>But did you know that two days ago?
Line of the Day nominee 1.
>Subject: Guaranteed
>From: "Mario Angeli"
>
>ps: I feel louthed to admit this but I think I'm beginning to like
>Guaranteed. Seven Years and With a little love are decent tunes. Does this
>mean I'm getting old?
No, but possibly hard of hearing. From time to time I give Guaranteed a
listen, just to see whether I’m doing it a disservice. I did this a couple
of nights ago and found to my horror that it’s even worse than I remembered
it. I’m not trying to be contentious here (contentious, moi?), I just find
it an utterly uninspired piece of work in comparison with the rest of their
oeuvre. Anyway, let’s not do the whole Guaranteed thing again just now, that
really has been flogged to death recently.
>Subject: dust to dust.
>From: William Burnett
>
>Meanwhile the trilby and deerstalker industry is facing ruin as
>they too suffer a complete ban on the movement of headgear around the
>country.
Line of the Day nominee 2.
AG
PS Astrology is great, isn’t it? No really, it is.
PPS It’s that time of year again – that "Where the hell do I find the money
for a season ticket?" feeling has descended upon me. As such I have a vast
amount of 12" singles up on eBay looking for a shiny new home. All manner of
old 80s cobblers which should appeal to those of curious taste round here –
Rick Astley, Cathy Dennis (with dreamy calendar photos no less), Go West,
Howard Jones, Incognito, Living In A Box, Pet Shop Boys, a few Shakatak for
Laurence, and there’s even a couple of Lighthouse Family for the tone deaf
amongst you.
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=aaarghh!&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows
If that link doesn't work search under seller "aaarghh!". 10% off to
Digesters. This has been an advert, so let me just say "Y Chromo Boyz" to
legitimise it.
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