From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest)
Subject: Level42 Digest V2000 #3

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Level42 Digest                                          Volume 2000 : Issue 3
                                                        1160 subscribers
Today's topics:
   Telephone?                                        Martin Brindley
   Hi all                                            Phil Jarvis
   Bending Harmonics (Was: Re: Bass question)        Mark Tweedale
   One Man Digest!                                   murgatroyd
   harmonics                                         James Watkins
   to Sam Hemillus                                   greg white
   Re: Welcome back...and all that stuff             Sean Green
   notes for l42                                     Jenny Lindskog
   Welcome back Digest                               Bowman Brian J 2dLt 452 >>
   level 42 - the video coleection / information r>> MDear36910
   Dennis The Menace                                 Andrew Goodwin
   London                                            Patrick Key
   Level42 Digest V2000 #2                           CD32569
   Re: Bass Question                                 Savagerush
   TSGD (3)                                          Jay Krause
   Fender Jazz                                       Hans de Graaf
   Levelfest, Lyndon Connah                          Pascal Koolen
   hello fellows                                     BHConrad
   Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #2                       TenthSun
   Fender Jazz Bass                                  Brian L
   Re: Steely Dan                                    Martin T. Best

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Subject: Telephone?
From: Martin Brindley <martin.brindley @ mccint.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:00:52 -0000

Hi,

I have to admit to overall liking the live CD more than not, and have played
it an awful lot - in fact to prove this, has anyone else noticed the sound
of a ringing telephone for about a second halfway through TCW?!

Maybe it's the anticipation of the bass solo getting to me...

Ciao

Martin

Martin Brindley, Account Executive, MCC International Ltd
Strategic Media Relations & Marketing for the IT Industry
Tel: + 44(0)1962 888100 E: martin.brindley @ mccint.com
Fax: + 44 (0)1962 888125 W:http://www.mccint.com

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Subject: Hi all
From: "Phil Jarvis" <phil_jarvis @ hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 03:30:02 PST

Just a quick mail to see if any of you digesters have any idea who handles
distribution of Marks live albums via his post box. The reason I ask this
question is that I have sent my My bands latest album to him on the off
chance that we might be able to get him to produce our new stuff!(A long
shot I know!)
I have heard nothing and am wondering if someone has knicked it or its
proping up a mug of coffee in Joe Daflo's.

It would be nice to know if it's made it into Marks CD player.

If any of you guys are interested in FunkRock, check our Website out and
listen to our taster tracks.

http://www.funkrock1.demon.co.uk/Html/TutFramesPage.htm

Cheers,

Phil D

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Subject: Bending Harmonics (Was: Re: Bass question)
From: Mark Tweedale <mark @ lindos.co.uk>
Organization: Lindos Electronics
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:24:40 -0000

Greetings all!

Regarding Dennis Bazylinski's question re: bending harmonics on the bass.  A
quick reply:

Bend up a la Mark King etc - Play the harmonic then press on the appropriate
string between the head bridge (is it called the nut?) and the tuning peg.

Bend down a la Jaco or our old friend Morgan - Press on bass body and
headstock in opposite directions to bend the neck outwards slightly.  Used
more for vibrato than anything else for obvious reasons!

No need to touch those tuners.
You could always get a bass with a wammy bar.  Mark has used one on a
recording you know.  Have a listen to "Lying Still".  In an interview for the
first ever issue of "Making Music" magazine back in the 80's he describes
using it.

TCOY,  Mark - The Bassman
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Mark J Tweedale   MEng MAES AMIEE
Design Engineer, Lindos Electronics,
Saddlemakers Lane, Melton, Woodbridge, Suffolk, IP12 1PP, UK.
Tel: 01394 380307 (ask for Mark)            Fax: 01394 385156

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Subject: One Man Digest!
From: "murgatroyd" <murgatroyd @ breathe.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:53:24 -0000

wow!  I can't beleive that I had the whole Digest to myself the other day!
The things I could have said and done (and didn't).  Any old how, just a bit
of further fuel to the debate about the LATJCCD (or whatever it is destined
to be called forever more/now).

Background/Audience noise.  I don't know about everyone else but I was
singing in tune!

Chris M

"Da da da dada da da, da da da dada da dee...  (spot the intro)

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Subject: harmonics
From: "James Watkins" <james.bpbaxter @ btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:22:24 -0000

Hi everyone,

From: Dennis Bazylinski <dbazylin @ iastate.edu>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:44:47 -0600

Hello all:

I have a bass question that I really need answered. In many songs including
Kansas City Milkman, Mark strikes a harmonic and seems to bend it up at
least a half-tone and then comes back down in pitch (I think Stanley Clarke
does something similar in some of his material). Does anyone know how he
does this? Is he really bending the string or turning the tuning key?

The answer is quite easy. Simply strike the harmonic and then press the
string BETWEEN the nut and the tuning peg. The note goes up, and when it is
released, it returns to its natural tuning (if your nut and machine heads
are up to it).

Cheers

Jimbo

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Subject: to Sam Hemillus
From: exhobie @ webtv.net (greg white)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:01:09 -0500 (EST)

Big Steely Dan fan here--favorite album is AJA--thanks for the reunion
news,Sam

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Subject: Re: Welcome back...and all that stuff
From: Sean Green <sdgreen @ flash.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:28:09 -0600

Hello all,

It's nice to see so many of you here once again!  I really was starting
to worry when the digest didn't come back as my birthday present on Feb
4th, so I will just consider this a belated one -- thanks, man!!!  ;)

I am also going to auction off (at Ebay,) my original copy of the LAST
digest letter that was sent out before the changeover that struck over
1,100 digesters in the gut.  I'm not sure what the price will be, but
I'm sure it will get me at least a candy bar --- or something!?!?!?!
--> just kidding. I know it will be worth much more than that!

Cheers to Monique and Julie for meeting up with us in New Orleans over
the weekend.  I'm tellin' you -- ya' got to go to N.O. for a visit if
you haven't already been.  What a blast!  Thanks M&J for walking around
with us and socializing at such an early morning time!  (noon.)  Love
you guys!

Take care all.  Will see you in the future!

~Sean

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Subject: notes for l42
From: "Jenny Lindskog" <lennier42 @ hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:50:48 CET

I need help!! i'm taking this singing course and i need a song to sing.
I want it to be a l42 song but i don't have any notes or anything!
Before xmas i was in contact with a guy who said he could help me, but i've
lost his e-mail.
Could u contact me?

love/jennix (Hey AG, mail coming soon, i am so sorry aboutkeeping u waiting.
=) )
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Subject: Welcome back Digest
From: Bowman Brian J 2dLt 452 WG/PA <Brian.Bowman @ riv.afrc.af.mil>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 08:47:04 -0800

Hello Levelheads,

Just some short notes from sunny (today at least) So. Calif. ...

Eric -- Thanks for bringing back the Digest ... hope your upgrade powers
your business to continued success!

SoCal LevelFesters from January -- Sorry I didn't make it ... I coach a
middle school baseball team and we had our season opener (winter league) on
Jan. 15 ... I was especially bummed because I heard Carl and Laurel Mueller
(spell?) were there, and I would love to thank them in person for the
awesome Forevernow.com.

To East Coast Levelheads -- I'm attending a two-month school in Maryland,
starting in mid-March ... if there are any Fests being planned for the
mid-March to mid-May time period, could someone drop me a line ... ALSO,
I've never been to New York City and was wondering if any of you New Yorkers
(Winman, Lolita, etc.?) would be willing to show me around, or have a
mini-fest get together or something.

General (non-Level related) -- I was so glad to see Santana beat out the
teeny-bop pack last night at the Grammys ... and Sting winning out over some
of them was a real shocker, too -- and definitely cool. I was hoping Brian
McKnight would win in R&B, if for no other reason than to make his gig in
San Diego tonight (which I'm attending) more lively ... BTW, does anyone out
there like McKnight?

Anyone notice Dominic Miller (sp?) in Sting's band last night? He is the
same guy who played some with Level 42, isn't he?

Sorry for the lengthy post ... Brian Bowman

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Subject: level 42 - the video coleection / information required.
From: MDear36910 @ aol.com
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:00:03 EST

I come across in a second hand store near me a level 42 video box set
containing three L42 videos:

Family of five
Live at Wembley
Fait Accompli

So naturally enough i purchased the said item - I already have these videos
(bought seperately) - but what I am looking for is some information on it
such as how many copies was it limited to, approximate value etc.

Aslo if someone is prepared to swap it for some good MK / L42 live stuff  I
could be very interested. I am not interested in making any money just
expanding my L42 collection. I own all of the "released" albums and vids but
am looking for some of the rarer stuff / digest compilations. that are
floating around that I can never seem to get hold of............

Thanks in advance,

Michael

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Subject: Dennis The Menace
From: "Andrew Goodwin" <nightfly82 @ nightfly82.screaming.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:32:15 -0000

> Subject: steely dan
> From: Sem Hillenius <showman @ xs4all.nl>
>
> just to remind you all: this friday a small miracle will occur...the new
> Steely Dan album will see the light of day! any fans on the Digest ?

Can we not rid the all-new, 'alternate days are a new beginning' Digest of
this kind of superfluous sidetracking? Nobody cares about a bunch of old
gits who haven't bothered to make an album for 20 years.

> Subject: level 42 digest 2000 # 3
> From: "Norman van den Wildenberg" <express @ wish.net>
>
> ps. bought a copy of Donald Fagen - The Nightfly; Great album!!!

Who? What? Was yesterday National Dutch Irrelevance Day or something?

> Subject: Re: Bass question
> From: Dennis Bazylinski <dbazylin @ iastate.edu>
>
> so the rest of digest members don't get bored with all the bass talk.

Yes, too right, on top of all this nonsense about people nobody cares
about, we can do without you and your endless daily postings! Why would
anybody here care about bass guitars?

AG

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Subject: London
From: "Patrick Key" <key @ spinell.se>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 20:53:47 +0100

Hello levelheads!

I am going to London in May and would like to know if anyone out there have any 
good URLs, where I can check out concerts etc?

Thanx!

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Subject: Level42 Digest V2000 #2
From: CD32569 <CD32569 @ compuserve.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:48:47 -0500

Has Level 42 received any BRIT or World Music awards over the years?

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Subject: Re: Bass Question
From: Savagerush @ aol.com
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:54:28 EST

As to the question of bending harmonics....It's pretty simple (hard, but a
simple concept.)

Strike, pluck or whatever a harmonic on the old 4-stringed lady, then while
it's still ringing, you've got to bend the string BETWEEN the Tuner and the
Fretboard.  It's really tight here on some basses, so it takes a little
getting used to.

That answer the question?  Hope so.

Feel the Bass, Greg

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Subject: TSGD (3)
From: "Jay Krause" <jaykrause @ jkrause.fsnet.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 21:27:11 -0000

>Nope, that's the 3 track 12 inch PROMO with the Tin tin out mix on it.
>This is a plain white cover 4 tracks including instrumental Omar version.

I don't know - my promo version has the four tracks including the
instrumental, no Tin Tin Out -

TSGD (1.98 Remix)
TSGD (1.98 Instrumental)
TSGD (1.98 Club Version)
TSGD (1.98 Radio Edit)

Sorry to bore everyone with this useless trivia, not much to say today!

Dale K

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Subject: Fender Jazz
From: Hans de Graaf <hans.bass @ wxs.nl>
Organization: World Access
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:48:39 +0100

Nice to read that the opinion on the Fender Jazz are more or less the
same as mine, There is however a big mystery here. As most bass players
know, the old Fender Jazz basses are the best sounding ones. David
Jacobs wrote about it and I couldn't agree more. I have had the same
kind of experience with an old '63 bass. Also in a shop somewhere, I
guess it was in Deventer, Holland. And the outcome was very much the
same; I didn't buy it. It sounded great even unplugged, it was a fretted
bass and it didn't sound anything like my modern Jazz from '95. It was
way too expensive so I had to let it go (3500,-- (Guilders aprox 1650
dollars).
The shape is the same, the weight is the same, the pickups are the same,
(but I played it only un-plugged so I can't really tell). It felt pretty
much the same. And now for the twenty million dollar question:WHY
DOESN'T IT SOUND THE SAME!
Why is it that an old beat-up Fender Jazz sound A LOT better than a
"just left the factory" sample?
This is NOT something unique for Fenders. I have a home built Jazz copy
(I made it frettless)  from Ibanez from aprox'67, and that one is closer
to the '63 one in the shop than my brand new Mexican from '98.
A few possibilities I might name.
1. Is it the wearing finish of the bass, simpler put, the lack of paint
on it?
2. Are the pickups different, does the magnetic field change slowly
through the years? (Not a very strong one because the phenomena can be
heard without the bass plugged in, or is there a acoustic connection
between the strings and the magnetic pull of the pickups?)
3. Hand grease! The thing we try so hard polishing off after a sweaty
gig, does it soak the wood. changes it vibration.
4. Age? If this is true, than after a while even the '75 or '80 basses
would start to sound better. Is this true, are there people out there
with such an experience? (Try buy a new bass for your new born baby,
just in case he decides to play bass when he is 18!)
5. could it be the fret metal? I don't think so because it happens to
frettless basses too.

To end this story and put some more mystery in it, I have done ( and
still do) some testing. I bought early this year that Mexican frettless.
At the same time a friend bought the same bass, at the same shop. He is
still one of the best bass players I know but due to his work, he isn't
able to play a lot.
I play my bass a lot. Compared to my bass, his instrument is like new.
Still there is no difference in sound audible, so although it is a short
test ( only one year ) I don't think that playing a lot will mean a
difference.
Ok food for thought I would say, any one??? Mark perhaps, he has an
immense experience with all kinds of basses and ever since he not only
interested in the slap thing (he played a home made fretless Moon bass
(jazz copy) on Forever Now) he might add a lot to this discussion.
Wouldn't that be great?
Nick Bennet: Thanks for the support mail pall, you're absolutely right,
music comes from the heart, but every once in a while there is this
mystery that is there to be solved, or at least understood! This is one
of them.

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Subject: Levelfest, Lyndon Connah
From: "Pascal Koolen" <pkoolen @ dds.nl>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:57:58 +0100

Hya Levelheaddies!!

Hey,i think i've found something about Lyndon Connah,maybe some old news,but
i'm sure that some of you don't know this.
Last week when i've humpin around my collection i saw a picture of him in
the Guaranteed tourbook,
with also at the credits in the middle of the book:"Lyndon Connah-Backing
vocals"
i've never noticed this before,can somebody explain the details?

D.James wrote:
<<To those planning the "Levelfest2000", let us know when you set a date.
<<I'm planning a trip to Amsterdam to visit friends sometime in the late
<<spring to early fall.  I don't imagine it's much of a train ride to where
<<you're planning it.  Then again, there was some discussion of a fest in
<<Rotterdamn too which would certainly be more convenient :)

Daniel,i'm living in Weert,i'm organising this fest,so why must i travel to
Amsterdam or Rotterdam for it?
There is also a Airport in Eindhoven & a train station in Weert.
If i had a reason for Rotterdam,i would sure do!

But why in Weert?.......in the very easy to find CAFE where it's gonna
happen,is almost for free,only +/- 10 Pounds all in  each person,drinks &
food as much as you need,for the whole day long,big TV-screen,bar,so what
else you need to get a good fest?

Weert is a central located city for Belgium & Germany,that's why those
people are now interested to go to Holland to visit the fest.
From the UK: Airplane to Eindhoven is absolutely no problem,easy & fast
connection to Weert with traveling by train,
it takes only 45 minutes from Eindhoven Airport to Weert,+/- 2 hours from
Heathrow,after when you have checked in of course.

I visited also in november  the Jazz-cafe gigs,i traveled from Weert to
Amsterdam airport,then to Heathrow,finally we arrived in Camden town 6 hours
later,aahhh.
Also,everything is hard to find,when you go to Amsterdam or Rotterdam,please
believe me.
That's why i'm not going to Rotterdam or somewere else.
I hope that i have informed you enough.

Date for the Levelfest will be anounced next week.
Andy Smith:thanks for all interest!

TCOY & best wishes to you all,
Pascal Koolen

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Subject: hello fellows
From: BHConrad @ aol.com
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 20:21:39 EST

Yes, the Level 42 digest is back to life. I was getting used to life without
it, too...
What happened in the last few years :) since the last edition?
Level 42 reformed and released a new hit album, Mark sold JoDaflo's bar :( -
I really wanted one of those t-shirts, and Phil sold a drumkit.
OK, so I made the first one up :))

However, I was reading an article in 'The Boston Globe', and noticided that
it featured a quote from our esteemed David Loundy "a Chicago attorney who
specializes in Internet law".
The article had nothing to do with Level 42, but I think he should have found
a way to mention them, me thinks :)

Bruce   //hometown.aol.com/bhconrad/index.html
p.s. L42CC cassettes will be on their way shortly - really!!! I finally got
off my lazy butt to finish them. I'll email people privately to let them
know...thanks.

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Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #2
From: TenthSun @ aol.com
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 21:39:27 EST

Hi all,

we get a lot of discussion in the Digest about musical instruments and
jamming and evens lyrics sometimes. But is anybody interested in Mark and
Mike's voices (and songwriting)? Every time I hear Level 42 I marvel at the
way Mark and Mike overcame their individual vocal limitations and created
beautiful harmonies long before the Backstreet Boys (Yikes!) and their ilk.
If anyone wants to discuss please let me know. You can e-mail
tenthsun @ aol.com. Maybe we can start a sidebar discussion. Ta!

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Subject: Fender Jazz Bass
From: Brian L <bluttrull @ home.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:10:21 -0600

> I'd like to start a topic about one of Mark's latest tools, the Fender
> Jazz Bass.
>
> I am interested in one but I don't know whether it is suitable for me
> or not.
>
> I will use it for about 50% slapping and 50% fingerstyle.
>
> I must say, of all the basses in the music store (and they had a LOT of
> variety), the Fender Jazz Bass slapped like a DREAM.
> It had this unique "bouncing" feel on the strings, a typical
> characteristic of a good slapping bass guitar.
> All the actions of all the guitars in the shop were set equally low,
> but the Fender Jazz Bass felt best.
> And the tone was brilliant.
> Unfortunately the price is a little bit high for a guitar made in
> Mexico.

I was thinking of getting a bass too (first one).  Is there any other bass that
offers the performance in that price range?   Another question - 4 or 5
string? I play some acoustic guitar now if that matters. So how long does it
take to learn to slap anyway?

Almost had one of those L42 siting things.   I noticed in a parking garage this
weekend on the wall was a large nicely colored, painted 'Level 4'.  Even looked
somewhat like a L42 emblem, w/ the 4 being inside a large circle.   Nevermind..

I heard Steely Dan announced a tour.  Any dates yet?

Brian

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Subject: Re: Steely Dan
From: "Martin T. Best" <martinbest @ sniffout.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:54:02 -0000

Sam: Here's at least one other SD fan - I've got an old cassette copy of
"Alive in America" with Dennis Chambers on drum duty; awesome!  Nice to know
they're still about (still ALIVE, even...)

Richard M: Leroy Williams was the early-days percussionist.  I've often
wondered where he is now.

Anyone: Latest news on Phil's activities would be nice.  I still get
goosebumps watching him play on the L42 videos.

Regards,
Martin
www.sniffout.net/home/martinbest