From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest) Subject: Level42 Digest V2000 #185 _ ____ _ ____ _ _ ___ // //__ // / //__ // /__// __// //__ //__ \\_/ //__ //__ // /__ D I G E S T Level42 Digest Volume 2000 : Issue 185 1352 subscribers Today's topics: Re-issues availability IanTara1 Re-issues availability IanTara1 What Else - Re-Issues stock problems silly you say? Winston Walker Getting those CDs! smashie Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #184 Tony Bassette Re issues Ian Budhu Total FUNKING disgUSt! Ataz On Holiday EMIKATIE Audiophileimport pricing AtaZ Re-Issues JULIAN TANNER More Air Specials Released Mike T. Payne Air Fares...CONT Mike T. Payne Forevernow.com Adam Hankinson Reissues Level42starchild ------------------------------ Subject: Re-issues availability From: IanTara1 @ aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 06:52:39 EDT I contacted Polydor with people's concerns re: the availability of the re-issues, and below is the reply I received. At the end of the day these are "just" re-issues and not a major release, but nonetheless should be more readily available. BTW - huge thanks to Chris (Dickman), Winston and Carl, who supplied a good few of the rare photo's in the sleeves. If it wasn't for them, the sleeves would have been rather photoless! Ian Reply from Polydor:- "Dear Ian, I mentioned to you on the phone that I was disappointed with the pre sales. In the marketing of anything distribution is crucial and the reaction people are getting from stores is not unique. The re-issues were offered to the whole retail trade but only taken by selected stores. We offer a 24 hour service for shops who order from us. The international picture is not clear yet. As for Europe, they close down for holiday during August and so will be out in September. Tell your friends on the web that they have to go into the stores and ask them to order quoting cat. no's if necessary. This will help convince dealers who did not order initially to do so." ------------------------------ Subject: Re-issues availability From: IanTara1 @ aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 06:52:39 EDT I contacted Polydor with people's concerns re: the availability of the re-issues, and below is the reply I received. At the end of the day these are "just" re-issues and not a major release, but nonetheless should be more readily available. BTW - huge thanks to Chris (Dickman), Winston and Carl, who supplied a good few of the rare photo's in the sleeves. If it wasn't for them, the sleeves would have been rather photoless! Ian Reply from Polydor:- "Dear Ian, I mentioned to you on the phone that I was disappointed with the pre sales. In the marketing of anything distribution is crucial and the reaction people are getting from stores is not unique. The re-issues were offered to the whole retail trade but only taken by selected stores. We offer a 24 hour service for shops who order from us. The international picture is not clear yet. As for Europe, they close down for holiday during August and so will be out in September. Tell your friends on the web that they have to go into the stores and ask them to order quoting cat. no's if necessary. This will help convince dealers who did not order initially to do so." ------------------------------ Subject: What Else - Re-Issues stock problems From: "" Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:24:45 GMT OK This is really beginning to P*** me off now ! I'm one of the lucky ones I guess in that my local HMV has 4 out of the 5 reissues in stock on the day of release. But all i'm reading is people saying that they can't find them. I guessed that Polydor/record stores would not bother with promotion, but this is a total Joke !. How can POA/SITL be out of stock on the day of release ?, and why is there so much conflicting info about them ?. I wonder if Mark has done all these TV/Radio interviews off his own back to promote them, knowing that Polydor wouldn't bother. And why no involvement from Mike at all (Da-Lata or no Da-lata it seems he has been left out of the loop on this one) Winston is probably correct when he questioned how many non-digesters would even be aware of the fact that they exist. The one thing that really would have helped push these along would have been a remixed single release, followed by promo in all the right places. You need to be hit between the eyes with promotion for them,not have to go looking for it in some small Minority magazine article or something. You need full page ads in Q magazine and Daily newspapers like ' THE SUN ' in the UK, which has a massive and very influential readership . To date i've only seen a very small eview in Guitarist magazine, and again only because I was directed there by a digest member. This whole thing smacks of the ONE MAN fiasco yet again. I don't know why but I really thought Polydor might get this one right,and put Level 42 to bed once and for all with a proper send off, but kinda guessed deep down that it wouldn't happen....it's so frustrating. Perhaps I'm showing my age a bit but why do record companies see fit to shove bland guitar groups and boy bands down my throat till the cows come home, yet tell me I will have to work hard to find CD's by real musicians who sold 30 million records at their peak all over the world only a few years ago !!! SORT IT OUT SOMEONE !!!! Dean ' now very angry ' Osborn ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: silly you say? From: "Winston Walker" Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 07:30:05 -0400 Dirk, i dont understand what you are getting at regarding the 12" versions being left off the first album. First off, all the albums HAD to stay the same as the vinyl originals. They could NOT make changes to the original, just add things in the space that was left available. The versions of Turn It On, Starchild, and Love Games are the EXACT same versions from the original album and CD. But the rest of the disc was filled up with extra b-sides, live tracks, and unreleased tunes. There are no 7 inch versions on the remasters, just the original album versions. I guess they could have put 12 inch versions on these albums, but i'd much rather have things that were not on cd, and unheard tunes in great quality, than remixes we all have on cd anyway. Just my opinion. Of course there are some remixes on these discs, but only when demos, etc were not approved or available. Win ------------------------------ Subject: Getting those CDs! From: "smashie" Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:08:09 +0100 Mrs Pink said: > You can imagine how pissed off i too was when i discovered that Virgin and Tower > records in picadilly did not stock them In which case I'm kinda glad I didn't try hunting round the west end myself on Tuesday. Because I almost did... but Principles had a sale on and I... oh you don't want to know any of this... > the thing is polydor if you are listening, we wnated to buy the re issues and > others would have done too but your distribution system and publicity machine is > crap. Hmm. Well here's the deal. A couple of weeks ago I asked my boss to get me some promo copies of the new CDs. He very nicely (and it's the first freebie I've blagged this year... honest!) spoke to our Polydor rep. Result? Nothing. They promised - but as of today, I haven't recieved anything. Unbelievable considering that means that *nobody* at the station got copies of the Cds? Grrr. So yeah, my local HMV has just taken 48 quid off me (they didn't have the early tapes one... anyone help?!) because I couldn't wait ANY longer to hear the tracks. The plan was always to buy them but I didn't think it would be THIS difficult! If I ever do get these promo CDs, I might just have the purchased HMV copies available but I'll make that clear IF it ever happens. Polydor's publicity machine *can* work when they want it to - but considering the radio interviews Mark did get, it was pretty disappointing. Where was Virgin, Heart, Ocean, GWR (and all it's little babies!) etc.? And JUST Channel 5? I'm one of their few regular viewers but admit it's a pretty low rating station. And I can remember trying to get an interview with Mark when One Man came out (admittedly different publicity machine). I got screwed around like there was no tomorrow - and we were one of the few stations PLAYING the thing! And what really drove me mad? For the first time in my life yesterday, I actually had to share 'rack space' in the store with a woman who was also trying to buy Level 42 stuff. It's normally just me skulking in the 'L' section between 'Lennon' and 'Levert'. Grr. The audience is there! If you're one of the few still waiting for a cassette or MD of the MK interviews, don't panic, they're on their way in the next couple of days. I've got the week off and if I'm not getting paid, I might as well take it a BIT easy... but those parcels are in the mail! ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #184 From: Tony Bassette Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:05:54 +0200 Vivient Gill wrote: > Levelheadz > > Found a tape produced by Wally Badarou "Words of a Mountain" Executive > producer Chris BlackwellGonna listen to it today. > Update to come! AFAIK this is his 3rd album : Back to scale tonight (1979) Echos (1983/1984) Word of a mountain (1988/1989) (All dates are from my small memory I'll recheck tonight) I found the first one only in vynil and got a sound close to Level. He is currently working on his fourth album, in fact he is working on it for at least 7 years (have come and gone ...). The latest news I had about that is the album is on hold because he was too busy to work on it. Take Care. -- o Pétition contre les brevets logiciels : http://petition.eurolinux.org o Tony Bassette: tbassette @ april.org ( ICQ : 25995434 ) o APRIL : http://www.april.org/ o THE CORRS : http://www.thecorrs.net/ ------------------------------ Subject: Re issues From: Ian Budhu Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 05:54:09 -0700 With all the problems people are having with obtaining the re issues I thought people might like to know that I got mine through an independant retailer called Disque. I ordered them in advance and they did me a deal of 2 CD's for =A320 or =A312.99 each so I got the lot for =A353.00. They also didn't receive TPOA/SITL on 21 August but they telephoned me on Wednesday said it was in and I now have the set. The moral here perhaps is to deal with an independant. They seem to have more appreciation of people like us with more refined musical tastes. Disque were both friendly and cooperative. They have a website @ http://www.disque.co.uk . check them out. ------------------------------ Subject: Total FUNKING disgUSt! From: "Ataz @ earthlink.net" Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:37:47 -0400 Hi all, Notice the US in disgUSt. Being across the west side of the pond I was toatally disappointed in the likelyhood of my obtaining the reissues. As you all have read. POLYDOR will not be releasing them to the US, and, call me a fool, but this is what I've discovered... CDnow does not carry them Amazon.com does not carry them Amazon.co.uk only shows 2 Jungle dot com only shows 2 I'm waiting to hear from Audiophileimports Point Being.... the good news is, HMV.co.uk had them all at £8.50 each plus I got Influences and Turn it on for another £11.47 total. The above prices are without the VAT and shipping so with shipping to the US if the exchange rate is about 1.56 I should be paying about $98 USD for a total of 12 CD's! ($8.17 USD each). Dan ------------------------------ Subject: On Holiday From: EMIKATIE @ aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:18:34 EDT Sorry all.... Hope I can be forgiven for announcing this late, but I left on holiday August 18 and won't be back until August 28. The machine stops, John ------------------------------ Subject: Audiophileimport pricing From: "AtaZ" Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:32:42 -0400 Hi US gang, here's a clip from Audiophileimports, use your judgement but I paid about $13.26 usd plus shipping of about 2.34 per set at hmv.co.uk >D means domestic (US) cd E means European cd we should have the Level 42 >reissues next week $24.99 for each 2 cd set plus shipping. ------------------------------ Subject: Re-Issues From: "JULIAN TANNER" Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:19:12 GMT Dear All May i add my thanks to Ian Buck and Simon Carson for their work in bringing the Re-Issues to life. The bonus for me is to hear many tracks/remixes that i have purchased over the years but have never managed to hear unless they have been featured on CD/Cassette as for the past 10 years i have not owned a means of playing vinyl. This is due to being too tight to buy a deck and too lazy to use my brothers!!!! At last i have been able to realise a dream of listening to the ASDC mix of TBWYA, the Sisa mix of SAY and others. I took great delight in bragging about it to my brother on the phone as he has yet to get his copies!!! Which brings me neatly onto my next point, namely the struggle various digesters have had in obtaining copies of the Re-Issues. I am extremely lucky in having a very good local shop who i deal with, Barney's Compact Discs in St Neots Cambs. I spoke to them about the releases a good month ago and the owner told me he would stock them all but advised me to pre-order copies to ensure availability. This i did and sure enough on Monday i picked up all five discs at £9.99 each and i didn't even pay a deposit for them. Shops want your business, so if they provide an ordering service, then take advantage and even for the outlay of a couple of quid deposit get your order in and guarantee your copies when you want them, on the release date,with the minimum of fuss. I have done this with Bitter Moon,One Man and other stuff from dare i say it "other artists". Once again thanks to everyone involved in the Re-Issues, they are great and i am going to have great fun working my way through them Roll on November Julian ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: More Air Specials Released From: "Mike T. Payne" Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:18:01 CDT FOR US DIGESTERS ONLY........ This is a short list of US cities that are running specials in November for London, there are other cities besides the ones listed below, but after checking several cities, I will check other cities not listed per email request. Different airlines have been used, but all routes are on major carriers (AA, UA, US, CO, DL, NW) on a non-stop/connecting basis and eligible for frequent flyer mileage. Email me back if you are interested in purchasing or would like more info, and even a quote. I just want to help as many fans as possible get over to the UK cheaply so they can enjoy MK play live, as trust me it is truly worth every penny! I have a toll free number, so if you want to speak, email me and I will email it to you in return. The prices below were based on the following dates of travel. Depart: 10 November 2000 Return: 18 November 2000 If you want different dates that may/may not change the fare, a Saturday night stayover is however mandatory for all fares listed, these fares are not guaranteed until purchased and subject to an extreme limited inventory: Prices as of 08-24-2000 1215CDT COACH/ECONOMY CLASSES All prices are in US$, PER PERSON INCLUDING ALL TAXES AND FEES LAX 499.00 SFO 496.00 SEA 519.00 PDX 545.00 LAS 579.00 DEN 537.00 DFW 489.00 ORD 439.00 MSY 585.00 BNA 449.00 DTW 487.00 RDU 391.00 (CLT is about the same) MIA 519.00 NYC 389.00 (JFK, EWR, LGA only) WAS 395.00 (IAD, BWI, DCA only) BOS 375.00 If you can find a lower price than this, please by all means let me know where you found it and I will look into it for you. Best and Kind Regards, Mikey "the un-official travel agent for The L42 Digest" ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: Air Fares...CONT From: "Mike T. Payne" Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:58:31 CDT Those fares that I mention, MUST be purchased 45 days prior to departure, if they are still available then......... Also, those fares are final, all taxes, handling/ticketing fees, and that 'evil' fuel surcharges are INCLUDED!!! Mikey ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: Forevernow.com From: "Adam Hankinson" Organization: www.AHAssociates.co.uk Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:37:00 -0700 Well, Did anyone notice that when Carl updated his website with a stunning picture of ME he suddenly gets awarded the golden web award for 2000-2001 ! If anyone else would like an exclusive picture to boost your hits and gain new awards, just contact my manager/agent/wife and she will hook you up :-) Adz (It's true - Carl will do anything for a Sammy's) :-) ------------------------------ Subject: Reissues From: Level42starchild @ aol.com Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:59:55 EDT Well, speaking for a U.S. digester, it's equally, if not more frustrating. I preordered off of hmv and all I've gotten are e-mails (4 of them now) saying they don't have it in stock (are on back order) and that they would contact me when/if they came in. I was hoping they'd come before I left for my Canadian vacation this weekend, but alas, I should have figured better. It would have made for great car music to listen to everything...but since I do have most of their music in a different form, I'll just have to listen to that on my drive up and back. I still hope to get across the Atlantic for one of the shows in November. Maybe then I won't feel the disappointment of not seeing/hearing MK live, or getting the short shrift on the releases in the U.S., but on that note, most everyone seems to be getting a bit shafted here. So, for those who've had a listen to the reissues, enjoy. For the rest of us, I only hope the big brother types that control releases and how much of them are made don't arbitrarily determine what we can listen to (of course they do anyway). I don't begrudge anyone the music that moves them, however insipid I might find it, because we all have different tastes and such, but we shouldn't be shut out in exchange for the next barbie/boy band release the music companies want to push upon us. So with that I leave with no bitterness, no hatred, but in the end, I vote them off of the music industry island. Let the fans be the Survivors and be rewarded with their music!