From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest) Subject: Level42 Digest V2000 #184 _ ____ _ ____ _ _ ___ // //__ // / //__ // /__// __// //__ //__ \\_/ //__ //__ // /__ D I G E S T Level42 Digest Volume 2000 : Issue 184 1351 subscribers Today's topics: reissues: how silly dirk.vael Today's Topic l.godderidge Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #183 ElSavannah Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #183 ElSavannah Reissues JuJuGuru Videos ntheodor re-issue musings Winston Walker Re-Issues Stock Via Polydor, Deja Vu M. Payne Fest equip Randall, Steve Trouble finding the re-issues ? Smith, Neil re: Isle of Wight Radio interview Mueller, Carl Rereleases, For the dutch fans only Norman van den Wildenberg strings and albums bert w Wally Badarou Vivient Gill Got Japan-made "One Man" CD mariko Re-issues Lars-Ove Larsson ------------------------------ Subject: reissues: how silly From: dirk.vael @ lu.arthurandersen.com Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:16:31 +0100 "no 12" versions of turn it on, love games or starchild, but i suppose if they had put the extended versions on the remasters it would have left no room for ray schmidt volk, and the great guildford/ tunbridge wells version of Sandstorm" the original CD with 12" versions is about 43mins I believe? so they still had 30 mins left... no room? This is so SILLY to put the 7"ish versions on it. Dirk btw, no sign of it over here in Lux about these reissues... :( *******************Internet Email Confidentiality Footer******************* Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. 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Regards Lesley ---Open Email - Email on your tv with talk21--- ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #183 From: ElSavannah @ aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 07:05:35 EDT Hi All Like Glyn I have had copies of the re issues for while now on CDR acetate but also like him i felt i had to do my bit and buy them on the day of release so of i trundled after a hrad days work as an Orthopaedic Medical Secretary into the west end of london looking. You can imagine how pissed off i too was when i discovered that Virgin and Tower records in picadilly did not stock them in fact virgin at picadilly circus went so far as to say that they weren't going to stock them as they would not be chart albums for christs sake. Tower said the release date had not been confirmed yet and they weren't expecting them for a few weeks so i walked off witha sinking feeling inmy stomach to HMV at the trocadero. There on the shelves were some of hte re issues. i.e. 2 of the five titles. I got RITF/SATS and TC/WM and asked about the rest to be told, "we are only stocking hte popular ones but we can order them for you in 10 days" again i bought the two i had and left in a fury. I then took a long bus ride in rush hour traffic up to oxford circus and went into HMV and found two more of the re issues, LFT/ET and PP but no POA/SITL. to be honest i didnt even ask about when they were getting it as the information has been appalling on the record shops part and they dont know their arses from their elbows. Now some of you may know but i used to be a manager for virgin our price and ran the store in waterloo station. it never ceased to amaze me that the head office departments could so deliberately decide what the music buying public could and could not buy and i am afradi they have done it again. i still have friends who work for our price and was told that the our price chain will not be stocking any of the re issues as general stock anc only as customer orders. Virgin will only carry the more 'popular' ones and order the rest. To me this is disgraceful after all the hard work that has gone into getting these things into the shops in the first place. The next thing we will know is that polydor then decided they will not release anything else becuase these have not sold and then say well we told you so. the thing is polydor if you are listening, we wnated to buy the re issues and others would have done too but your distribution system and publicity machine is crap. it always was and always will be. POlydor used to drive me mad when i worked at our price as they never got us their releases on time and it was very frustrating not to have a new release on the day for you customers. SORT IT OUT FOR ONCE. i could never say this when i worked for our price but ill damn well say it now. Ian, Simon, Carl and Winston have done an amazing job in getting these tracks into out hi-fi's and i think it is a disgrace that their efforts have been squandered like this. I hope it does not put them off in the long run in their level crusade. All being said and done it is good to ahve the remasters (what i have of them, four down one to go) in my stereo and as i have discussed with a few people i fell like i am re discovering hte albums all over again. Physical presence in particular is a joy to listen to and the sound quality has really pushed some fresh air into the songs. I love it, I would still however be happier if i had the last set to listen to but i guess i should be used to waiting and will; have to wait some more. yours frustrated having had the moment ruined by bastards who always want to tell me what to listen to......... Mrs Pink ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #183 From: ElSavannah @ aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 07:05:35 EDT Hi All Like Glyn I have had copies of the re issues for while now on CDR acetate but also like him i felt i had to do my bit and buy them on the day of release so of i trundled after a hrad days work as an Orthopaedic Medical Secretary into the west end of london looking. You can imagine how pissed off i too was when i discovered that Virgin and Tower records in picadilly did not stock them in fact virgin at picadilly circus went so far as to say that they weren't going to stock them as they would not be chart albums for christs sake. Tower said the release date had not been confirmed yet and they weren't expecting them for a few weeks so i walked off witha sinking feeling inmy stomach to HMV at the trocadero. There on the shelves were some of hte re issues. i.e. 2 of the five titles. I got RITF/SATS and TC/WM and asked about the rest to be told, "we are only stocking hte popular ones but we can order them for you in 10 days" again i bought the two i had and left in a fury. I then took a long bus ride in rush hour traffic up to oxford circus and went into HMV and found two more of the re issues, LFT/ET and PP but no POA/SITL. to be honest i didnt even ask about when they were getting it as the information has been appalling on the record shops part and they dont know their arses from their elbows. Now some of you may know but i used to be a manager for virgin our price and ran the store in waterloo station. it never ceased to amaze me that the head office departments could so deliberately decide what the music buying public could and could not buy and i am afradi they have done it again. i still have friends who work for our price and was told that the our price chain will not be stocking any of the re issues as general stock anc only as customer orders. Virgin will only carry the more 'popular' ones and order the rest. To me this is disgraceful after all the hard work that has gone into getting these things into the shops in the first place. The next thing we will know is that polydor then decided they will not release anything else becuase these have not sold and then say well we told you so. the thing is polydor if you are listening, we wnated to buy the re issues and others would have done too but your distribution system and publicity machine is crap. it always was and always will be. POlydor used to drive me mad when i worked at our price as they never got us their releases on time and it was very frustrating not to have a new release on the day for you customers. SORT IT OUT FOR ONCE. i could never say this when i worked for our price but ill damn well say it now. Ian, Simon, Carl and Winston have done an amazing job in getting these tracks into out hi-fi's and i think it is a disgrace that their efforts have been squandered like this. I hope it does not put them off in the long run in their level crusade. All being said and done it is good to ahve the remasters (what i have of them, four down one to go) in my stereo and as i have discussed with a few people i fell like i am re discovering hte albums all over again. Physical presence in particular is a joy to listen to and the sound quality has really pushed some fresh air into the songs. I love it, I would still however be happier if i had the last set to listen to but i guess i should be used to waiting and will; have to wait some more. yours frustrated having had the moment ruined by bastards who always want to tell me what to listen to......... Mrs Pink ------------------------------ Subject: Reissues From: JuJuGuru @ aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 07:24:59 EDT I have managed to get all the reissues except POA/SITL. I got them from HMV opposite Bond Street tube. They sent me to Oxford Street's main HMV to get POA/SITL who told me it would be out next Monday. I went in Virgin next to Tottenham Court Road tube and they had a few copies of reissues there. It's not that they're selling well so they're hard to find but these large stores are not stocking enough copies. When I bought them (11.99 each) I was told that they were only carrying a couple of each so it seems to me that if a large London HMV is only carrying a handful, what hope have you got elsewhere? Anyway they sound great, especially GoodbyeRS-V and the live stuff. If you're having trouble getting them and you don't mind taking a gamble on how long they'll take to come, you can order them at hmv.co.uk and they are 9.99. As regards to TIO,LG and SC, I think the idea was to release the reissues with the original versions of songs(i.e what was on the vinyl) as oppose to the later c.d release. Enough of that, for the November gigs we need a dune tune/sandstorm/mr.pink/heathrow/rothrm/88 medley slap bang in the middle of the set. That should do it, and then he can play whatever else he likes! But he must do true believers - I must hear Gary Husband play on that. Goodbye Goodbye Goodbye R S-V JuJu ------------------------------ Subject: Videos From: ntheodor @ email.ypf.com.ar Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:33:42 -0300 Hi everyone ! Does anybody know where/how to get the videos of the Guaranteed and Forever Now albums? Thanks a lot, Nicolas. ------------------------------ Subject: re-issue musings From: Winston Walker Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:34:36 -0400 Congrats to all the folks who have their copies already. Big congrats and thanks to Ian Buck and Simon Carson, who put in all that hard work on these discs, and who with the help of Paul Crockford, finally got these discs in to our hands. These guys really slaved over these things, and it's great to see 'actual fans' working on these items, as opposed to someone at the record company who might not really give a damn. In all honesty, if these guys didnt step up and volunteer, i have the suspicion that these titles would have been released with the 'OLD' covers. I've noticed a lot of grumbling regarding the availability of these discs, but I'm not suprised at all. At least here in the states, most titles are not available day and date, unless it's a major release, from a HUGE artist, with major chart appeal. Most stores order re-issues at their leisure, because they figure the titles are not going to be flying off the shelves. I wonder how many NON digesters actually went to their local record store on the the 21st, in the hopes of picking up the Level 42 re-issues? My guess is we are the only folks who even know about them, unless you have happened to catch one of MK's interviews, or the latest issue of Guitarist magazine. As others have stated, i bet the supply problem works itself out in the next 1 - 2 weeks. I expect the Virgin Megastore in Times Square to carry them as imports, as they have been carrying all available L42 titles since their opening a few years ago. I'll advise pricing when I find out that info. Win ------------------------------ Subject: Re-Issues Stock Via Polydor, Deja Vu From: "M. Payne" Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:01:48 CDT Warning: If you have high blood pressure and/or are currently under alot of stress, reading the following may irriate your condition even further. Author is not liable for any health condition that this posting creates. I just spoke to my contact again at Polydor, and he said and I quote, "Polydor distributers have shipped ALL of the re-issues to their vendors and that they are ALL out and ready to be purchased." (refering only to the UK market, I might add) I asked him if their was only a limited quanity released, he said no, but wouldn't tell me how many of each set were made. He also made a point in telling me that they have no plans to press anymore re-issue CD's, so when these are gone, they are gone! So, better get them while you can! I told him how the digest memebers are finding it very difficult to find these CD's; That either they can get one CD, and not the others, the CD's aren't there at all and the shops said that it was special order, or POA/SITL wasn't available, he again stated that the whole remastered series are out and avaiable to the general public. I asked him then WHY people are having problems finding these 'available' discs, he said that it is up to the stores to offer these CD's. Although he did say that Virgin, HMV, and another store I can't remember the name of now... 'should' have the entire series in a special display that Polydor had sent along to their special vendors to promote (haha) this new release. So basically, it is the same old story, from the same old tired music industry....I hope that the days of depending on these "out-dated" music labels is almost over, this is just plain and utter CRAP! Shouldn't this industry be regulated more scrictly, I would not have been surprised to see a tag-along track of Brittney Spears on the L42 Reissues if they could have gotten away with it! CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME THE MINDSET OF THESE RECORD COMPANIES, AS THEY DEFY ANY SORT OF COMMON SENSE!!!!!!!!! Mikey PS: While writing this email, it came to my attention that there may be someone willing to take advantage of other digesters who may not have the CD set yet, by copying the Promo's and now the proper releases and selling them off market with a rather large mark-up in actual price. I trust that we won't see that, but you know if Polydor got its' arse (thanks Lisa) in line and did this properly, this might not have even been an issue! SAD ISN'T IT! :( If you cannot get the discs, due to stock or you are in Nepal, or some far reach country like that, let the digest know and hopefully someone of decent calibre will stand-up and offer to help you, do not feel that you have to take out a second mortgage on your house to buy these. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: Fest equip From: "Randall, Steve" Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:51:13 +0100 I have a PA and mics for the Godawful Fest. I could supply keyboards but I would suspect most players would want to use thier own. I may bring Tracy with me as well. PS Desmond, I went to the Guildford fanclub gig as mentioned yesterday. Steve Randall ------------------------------ Subject: Trouble finding the re-issues ? From: "Smith, Neil" Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 18:04:00 +0200 Hi, Any of you who have had trouble finding the re-issues either in a store or on the web, suggest you check out www.hmv.co.uk - They have all the CDs listed and are in stock - all listed for 9.99STE. I ordered two of the CDs from Amazon ( The others weren't listed!! ) and they are on back order - Amazing eh ? I know ordering from web isn't quite the same as strolling into a store and picking up the real thing - But who ever gets the tunes through my letterbox first wins. Fait Accompli. Before anyone asks, No I don't work for HMV or any part of the organisation so on ya bikes :-) Later N. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. 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Hoi jongens/meiden de rereleases zijn vanaf het einde van de week te koop op www.level42.zzn.com Heb mijn contact aangesproken en hij heeft er een aantal besteld. Als je ze voor het weekend nog niet hebt gevonden, kijk dan dus eens op mijn site Groeten Norman ------------------------------ Subject: strings and albums From: "bert w" Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 01:23:19 GMT |Hey would someone PLEASE e mail me at my personal e mail address and tell me if Mark is stil using the Elite bass strings 30-50-70-90 and if there have been any new albums relaesed by any of the guyys since the first trash album.... Thanks Bert bertwh @ hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: Wally Badarou From: Vivient Gill Organization: @Home Network Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 21:36:05 -0400 Levelheadz Found a tape produced by Wally Badarou "Words of a Mountain" Executive producer Chris BlackwellGonna listen to it today. Update to come! Viv ------------------------------ Subject: Got Japan-made "One Man" CD From: "mariko" Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:47:27 +0900 I got Japan-made CD of MK's "One Man". Artwork of the jacket is similar to the USA album. Disk itself looks like the UK disc. Nothing special about the comments written on the booklet. There are lyrics, and the translation of lyrics in Japanese. One odd thing is, on CD's 'obi'*, it says, "Mark King was born in Manchester, and ....[so on]". I thought Mark was born in the Isle of Wight. Or, am I wrong ? * 'obi' is 'sash' in Japanese. It's a kind of promotional tag, fastend, mainly on CDs and books. It seems that The Remaster CDs have not arrived to Japan yet. I'm waiting for your call, HMV Shibuya ! --------------------------- 無料Email@ http://JMAIL.CO.JP ------------------------------ Subject: Re-issues From: Lars-Ove Larsson Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:49:45 +0200 After speaking to some of the major record stores in Stockholm I have come to understand that neither the stores nor the record company seems to regard these re-issues as "new products". To us digesters they are new and therefore expect them to be out the day they are released, but the record stores just make their purchases based on demand. So, if they sell out their current stock of Level 42 "regular" cds then eventually they will order the re-issues instead of more of the regulars. Stores who normally won't carry L42 won't carry the re-issues either. This means that it might be months before you see it in the shops unless you order them yourself. But - they will be there eventually... Lars