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Subject: Level42 Digest V2000 #149

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Level42 Digest                                          Volume 2000 : Issue 149
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Today's topics:
   Mark and Fretless                                 Mike Brooks
   weight problem... what weight problem             murgatroyd
   Lasso the Moon                                    DonZipf
   featuring lovely music in movies!                 JENNY LINDSKOG
   Camden and bits...                                M. Payne
   (NL42C) INXS to tour New Zealand                  M. Payne
   Re:fretless bass                                  Doug R
   Re: [ILF] Camden and bits...                      Bilal42
   Re: [ILF] Camden and bits...                      Bilal42
   Re: [ILF] Camden and bits...                      M. Payne
   Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #148                     Alex Humphries
   Concert on the I.O.W                              Sarah Biles
   Line-up for the November 2000 Tour                M. Payne
   www.level42.zzn.com email                         Norman van den Wildenberg
   Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #148                     MRakes1375
   Re: [ILF] Camden and bits...+Barbican             Bilal42
   Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #148                     William Burnett
   Fredless Bass                                     Cymrusmc
   Paul Young                                        Cymrusmc
   Go see Gary and Allan                             BobC971

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Subject: Mark and Fretless
From: "Mike Brooks" <mikebrooks1 @ breathemail.net>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:52:23 +0100

All,
Mark did Seven Years with a fretless but Lasso The Moon was done with the
Wal Midi Bass with a fair degree of 'synth-lag' to emulate a fretless.
Apparently, he didn't enjoy playing the fretless much, so used the Wal
instead, the same one that was up for sale a few years ago with the other
basses. I tried it but didn't like it.

Mike

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Subject: weight problem... what weight problem
From: "murgatroyd" <murgatroyd @ breathe.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:24:12 +0100

Thanks Andrew Goodwin for his hilarious comment regarding my having the
front 4 seats at Liverpool!  brightened up my day mate!

Seriously though - I'm sure seats will count for naught once Marky hits the
first note and we'll all be crowding the stage just like the good(?) old
days!

Chris M

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Subject: Lasso the Moon
From: DonZipf @ aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:02:42 EDT

> Someone asked if Mark ever played fretless on any songs.  I believe that
> Lasso the Moon from Guaranteed is played on a fretless.  Don Z, is that
> correct?

A common misconception!  The bassline on "Lasso the Moon" sounds fretless,
but it's really a Wal bass with an MB4 bass-synth system installed.  The
actual sound doesn't even come from the bass, but from a Yamaha synthesizer
module connected by MIDI.

To my knowledge, "Seven Years" is the only MK fretless recording out there
(although I am suspicious about parts of "Billy's Gone").

Anyone know who owns the Wal/MB4 bass today?  -  Don Z.

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Subject: featuring lovely music in movies!
From: "JENNY LINDSKOG" <jenny.lindskog @ telia.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 16:14:40 +0200

Hi again all! :) Coming back from a lovely week in Skagen, Denmark with
sun and waves, I have lots of mails to go through and lots of digests
unread. Speaking about MI:2 and the L42 reference, are there any L42
songs that have popped up in any movies?
Last night, much too much regret, I saw the horrible Something about
Mary and to my great surprise the lovely Danny Wilson tune - Mary's
Prayer was played in the beginning! :D
Apart from that, the movie wasn't that good...the bit about the hairgel
made me laugh, but my sense of humour isn't the best so... ;)

Jennix

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Subject: Camden and bits...
From: "M. Payne" <mikeyp42 @ hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:28:40 CDT

Howdy!

Firstly, CONGRATS IAN BUCK, I am still jumping up and down!!!!!  :)

Well, let me say that I enjoy staying in Camden, very easy to get around and
close to the gigs where I do not have to worry about catching the trains, so
I can stay after the gigs and visit and eat with other levelheads!  When I
am in London normally when a gig isn't in Camden, I stay @ Kensington/Earls
Court area, which is okay, but I prefer staying in North London.  Ealing is
OKAY, but still a long train ride into the city centre.  Camden just has a
vibe to it, and really enjoy all the shops, markets, and cafe's on the high
street in Camden and Chalk Farm.

I think that people posted to this one, but Mark used a fretless for Seven
Years (GUARANTEED) for sure, Lasso The Moon and My Father's Shoes I am
unsure!  I do remember Mark giving an GWR Interview in 1991, saying that
this was the first time that he had played a fretless in the studio and that
he quite like the freedom that a fretless gave him, I didn't understand what
that meant, but for fact sake there you go!

I am a big PET SHOP BOYS fan, so whoever it was that asked I am one!  I know
I just admitted to this on the L42 digest, what was I thinking?

Brian, I am still trying to find (locally) that CH Rare Disc, still having
no luck.  Dammit Jim!

Does anybody know if Da Lata is recording any of these gigs, has anybody
asked Mike?  Is Mike's solo stuff EVER going to see the light of day?

Well, it seems that the hard core fans, like myself, will be making what
seems to be the annual pilgrimage to Camden for the MK gigs, should we do
shirts for this one, since we've got the time?  How many people are (from
the USA/Canada except Quebec "JK") are going over?

BTW, that Hamburg gig is AWESOME, I have a copy thanks to another digester
and thge sound is just INCREDIBLE, espc Bitter Moon and World Machine, I
also like the Mr Pink riff in RITF.

Well that's all for now, I wish I didn't have a firewall so I could chat
LIVE instead of teh ILF/Digest, but oh-well, just thankful that I have the
Internet/Email at work! :)

Best and Kind Regards,

Mikey
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Subject: (NL42C) INXS to tour New Zealand
From: "M. Payne" <mikeyp42 @ hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:38:21 CDT

I wish I could go to this as well!  :) Mikey

INXS to tour New Zealand

Sydney, AUSTRALIA -- Further fueling rumors of an Australian tour, INXS has
announced that it will tour New Zealand in August, for the first time in ten
years.

The band has not toured since the 1997 death of lead singer Michael
Hutchence. According to on line source Immedia.com, former Noiseworks singer
Jon Stevens, who fronted the band at two recent club gigs, will again join
the band for the tour.

To prepare for the New Zealand tour, INXS will perform on August 16 and 17
in Jindabyne, New South Wales, although no formal plans to tour Australia
have yet been announced.

Courtsey of 9MSN-Australia

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Subject: Re:fretless bass
From: Doug R <saxydrr @ yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 07:47:41 -0700 (PDT)

Hello all,
   In regards to the fretless inquiry- I don't
remember about "Lasso the Moon", but "Seven Years" of
Guaranteed is on fretless- guaranteed. Later

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Subject: Re: [ILF] Camden and bits...
From: Bilal42 @ aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:55:56 EDT

In answer to MP

I think I did see one of Da Lata's guys recording something - I'll ask.

Mike's solo album will see light of day, but right now he's really concentrating 
on Da Lata and his songs album. The whole Da Lata thing has turned out really 
well, the PPF comes no where close to be honest.

Da Lata are awesome, on Sunday, they had the crowd up on their feet, dancing and 
interacting with the band from beginning to end.

They are great musicians, real experienced musos, seem to work really well as a 
team and Mike fits in perfectly. The line up included a chellist(?), a 
saxophonist and a really cool percussionist. Mike's singing was impeccable and 
went so well with Lianna's voice. I had to pinch myself it was so good.

The best thing is that they have a good following and seem to be in the hands of 
a very good record company - so the whole set up seems to be very professional 
and to be honest, equal in caliber to many L42 performances.

Bilal

In a message dated Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:29:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "M. 
Payne" <mikeyp42 @ hotmail.com> writes:

<< Howdy!

Firstly, CONGRATS IAN BUCK, I am still jumping up and down!!!!!  :)

Well, let me say that I enjoy staying in Camden, very easy to get around and
close to the gigs where I do not have to worry about catching the trains, so
I can stay after the gigs and visit and eat with other levelheads!  When I
am in London normally when a gig isn't in Camden, I stay @ Kensington/Earls
Court area, which is okay, but I prefer staying in North London.  Ealing is
OKAY, but still a long train ride into the city centre.  Camden just has a
vibe to it, and really enjoy all the shops, markets, and cafe's on the high
street in Camden and Chalk Farm.

I think that people posted to this one, but Mark used a fretless for Seven
Years (GUARANTEED) for sure, Lasso The Moon and My Father's Shoes I am
unsure!  I do remember Mark giving an GWR Interview in 1991, saying that
this was the first time that he had played a fretless in the studio and that
he quite like the freedom that a fretless gave him, I didn't understand what
that meant, but for fact sake there you go!

I am a big PET SHOP BOYS fan, so whoever it was that asked I am one!  I know
I just admitted to this on the L42 digest, what was I thinking?

Brian, I am still trying to find (locally) that CH Rare Disc, still having
no luck.  Dammit Jim!

Does anybody know if Da Lata is recording any of these gigs, has anybody
asked Mike?  Is Mike's solo stuff EVER going to see the light of day?

Well, it seems that the hard core fans, like myself, will be making what
seems to be the annual pilgrimage to Camden for the MK gigs, should we do
shirts for this one, since we've got the time?  How many people are (from
the USA/Canada except Quebec "JK") are going over?

BTW, that Hamburg gig is AWESOME, I have a copy thanks to another digester
and thge sound is just INCREDIBLE, espc Bitter Moon and World Machine, I
also like the Mr Pink riff in RITF.

Well that's all for now, I wish I didn't have a firewall so I could chat
LIVE instead of teh ILF/Digest, but oh-well, just thankful that I have the
Internet/Email at work! :)

Best and Kind Regards,

Mikey
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Subject: Re: [ILF] Camden and bits...
From: Bilal42 @ aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:55:56 EDT

In answer to MP

I think I did see one of Da Lata's guys recording something - I'll ask.

Mike's solo album will see light of day, but right now he's really concentrating 
on Da Lata and his songs album. The whole Da Lata thing has turned out really 
well, the PPF comes no where close to be honest.

Da Lata are awesome, on Sunday, they had the crowd up on their feet, dancing and 
interacting with the band from beginning to end.

They are great musicians, real experienced musos, seem to work really well as a 
team and Mike fits in perfectly. The line up included a chellist(?), a 
saxophonist and a really cool percussionist. Mike's singing was impeccable and 
went so well with Lianna's voice. I had to pinch myself it was so good.

The best thing is that they have a good following and seem to be in the hands of 
a very good record company - so the whole set up seems to be very professional 
and to be honest, equal in caliber to many L42 performances.

Bilal

In a message dated Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:29:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "M. 
Payne" <mikeyp42 @ hotmail.com> writes:

<< Howdy!

Firstly, CONGRATS IAN BUCK, I am still jumping up and down!!!!!  :)

Well, let me say that I enjoy staying in Camden, very easy to get around and
close to the gigs where I do not have to worry about catching the trains, so
I can stay after the gigs and visit and eat with other levelheads!  When I
am in London normally when a gig isn't in Camden, I stay @ Kensington/Earls
Court area, which is okay, but I prefer staying in North London.  Ealing is
OKAY, but still a long train ride into the city centre.  Camden just has a
vibe to it, and really enjoy all the shops, markets, and cafe's on the high
street in Camden and Chalk Farm.

I think that people posted to this one, but Mark used a fretless for Seven
Years (GUARANTEED) for sure, Lasso The Moon and My Father's Shoes I am
unsure!  I do remember Mark giving an GWR Interview in 1991, saying that
this was the first time that he had played a fretless in the studio and that
he quite like the freedom that a fretless gave him, I didn't understand what
that meant, but for fact sake there you go!

I am a big PET SHOP BOYS fan, so whoever it was that asked I am one!  I know
I just admitted to this on the L42 digest, what was I thinking?

Brian, I am still trying to find (locally) that CH Rare Disc, still having
no luck.  Dammit Jim!

Does anybody know if Da Lata is recording any of these gigs, has anybody
asked Mike?  Is Mike's solo stuff EVER going to see the light of day?

Well, it seems that the hard core fans, like myself, will be making what
seems to be the annual pilgrimage to Camden for the MK gigs, should we do
shirts for this one, since we've got the time?  How many people are (from
the USA/Canada except Quebec "JK") are going over?

BTW, that Hamburg gig is AWESOME, I have a copy thanks to another digester
and thge sound is just INCREDIBLE, espc Bitter Moon and World Machine, I
also like the Mr Pink riff in RITF.

Well that's all for now, I wish I didn't have a firewall so I could chat
LIVE instead of teh ILF/Digest, but oh-well, just thankful that I have the
Internet/Email at work! :)

Best and Kind Regards,

Mikey
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Subject: Re: [ILF] Camden and bits...
From: "M. Payne" <mikeyp42 @ hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:05:22 CDT

Bilal and friends....

That is GREAT news to hear about Mike lindup and De Lata "The CAN", I hope
that Mike is getting the same satisfaction from this group as he did in L42.
  Why has the emphasis changed though from the PPF?  Was this just a group
of his mates that he was giggin' with?

Mikey
"he drinks a whiskey drink,...."

PS:  Did you know that one of PM Blair's left hand men is also named Philip
Gould, same?   I could see Phil in Questiontime! :)

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Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #148
From: "Alex Humphries" <the.duracell @ btinternet.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 18:46:23 +0100

Hi Levelheads!!!

I wonder if any one watched the Bill on Tuesday night, and noticed that one
of the girls name in it was Lisa Harding (-:

Just thought you might want to know

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Subject: Concert on the I.O.W
From: "Sarah Biles" <sarahbiles42 @ hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:20:34 BST

Please Mark if you read this how about you doing another concert on the Isle
Of Wight for all your fans here..maybe Ryde Theatre again..??.
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Subject: Line-up for the November 2000 Tour 
From: "M. Payne" <mikeyp42 @ hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 15:26:44 CDT

For those of you with only e-mail and not the Internet:

Information courtesy of http://www.mark-king.com
More information can be obtained from the above address
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The line-up for the band for the November 2000 tour is as follows:

Mark King, bass/vox
Lyndon J. Connah, keys/b-vox
Nathan King, guitar/b-vox
Gary Husband, drums/token thrasher

Should be great, yet once again!

Mikey

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Subject: www.level42.zzn.com email
From: "Norman van den Wildenberg" <express @ wish.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 00:14:33 +0200

Hi Levelheads,

took a while but after many quistions
www.level42.zzn.com isn't webbased only anymore
POP3 service installed!!!!

so now order your own Level 42 email pop3 adres for free!!!

Norman
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Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #148
From: MRakes1375 @ aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 18:58:12 EDT

In a message dated 7/19/00 6:06:42 AM, Level42-request @ worldmachine.com
writes:

<< Can't believe the news about Paul Young. >>

What happened to Paul Young? I'm in States, haven't heard anything. Please
fill me in thanks.

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Subject: Re: [ILF] Camden and bits...+Barbican
From: Bilal42 @ aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 18:58:34 EDT

Mikey

He seems to be loving Da Lata, and from what I could see at the Barbican,
they seem to  really appreciate him and respect him.

It was like watching him on the Rockpalast or Live at Wembley shows. He was
beeming, often standing up so he could bop while singing and playing.

He even waved over to the bass player when the bassist was about to start his
solo (that brought back a lot of memories)! I'm sure I saw Mike grinning at
that stage, he must have had a little flash back. He also got the group to
line up and bow to the cheering crowd at the end, just like L42 used to (eg
LAW)!

The crowd were having a ball, people in the balconies were standing on chairs
5 rows deep just to see the action.

And the Prophet 5 (with its sea shore effect) was a real treat.

Mike was going to post us all a mail some time ago at mikelindup.com
explaining in his own words why he had left the PPF; but as you know, he is
hardly ever at home to get the chance to pick up or write mail, but hopefully
he'll get the chance soon.

If you want to know more about Da Lata, their (official) bio is on the shows
page at http://www.mikelindup.com.

Bilal

In a message dated 7/19/00 11:05:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mikeyp42 @ hotmail.com writes:

> Bilal and friends....
>
>  That is GREAT news to hear about Mike lindup and De Lata "The CAN", I hope
>  that Mike is getting the same satisfaction from this group as he did in
L42.
>
>    Why has the emphasis changed though from the PPF?  Was this just a group
>  of his mates that he was giggin' with?
>
>  Mikey
>  "he drinks a whiskey drink,...."

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Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #148
From: William Burnett <bill @ eatfirst.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 01:01:41 +0100

In message <20000719100001.18418.qmail @ mail.worldmachine.com>, Level42
Digest <Level42-request @ worldmachine.com> writes
>Good call. Now you just sound like a tosser.

Maybe, but I'm a young tosser. I'm a marketing board's dream
demographic.
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Subject: Fredless Bass
From: Cymrusmc @ aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 22:03:38 EDT

In a message dated 7/19/00 3:06:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
Level42-request @ worldmachine.com writes:

<< Subject: Fretless bass
 From: "Jackson, Lolita" <Lolita_Jackson @ msdw.com>
 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:41:40 -0400

 Someone asked if Mark ever played fretless on any songs.  I believe that
 Lasso the Moon from Guaranteed is played on a fretless.  Don Z, is that
 correct?

 Lolita

He also played fretless on "Seven Years". Remember the long legatos?

--Fred, The Two-Bit Bassist

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Subject: Paul Young
From: Cymrusmc @ aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 22:05:10 EDT

In a message dated 7/19/00 3:06:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
Level42-request @ worldmachine.com writes:

<< Can't believe the news about Paul Young. He was on TV only 2 weeks ago
 plugging the SAS Band and the fact they did the finale at Party In The Park.
 I've seen him quite a few times live with the SAS Band and he was always
 great. What a shame! I know Jamie Moses (guitarist with Brian May & The SAS
 Band) and I'm sure he'll be devastated.

 Laters,
 Mike >>
What? Did I miss something? Did Paul Young die or something?

--Fred, The Two-Bit Bassist

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Subject: Go see Gary and Allan
From: BobC971 @ aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 23:00:05 EDT

Hi all,

Just returned from the Allan Holdsworth show in Boston and I highly recommend
it. You won't be dancing. You won't hear much 4/4. But the musicianship
between Allan, Gary and Jimmi (sic) Johnson is absolutely tremendous. There
are shows coming up in Philly, NYC, Schenectady and Virginia. Go see 'em if
you're around.

Gary is really tremendous on drums. He really blew the crowd away at a sold
out show. Just want to thank him for "putting me on the list" Wednesday night.

Bob C