From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest) Subject: Level42 Digest V2000 #11 _ ____ _ ____ _ _ ___ // //__ // / //__ // /__// __// //__ //__ \\_/ //__ //__ // /__ D I G E S T Level42 Digest Volume 2000 : Issue 11 1174 subscribers Today's topics: Re: David Beckham smashie Hi, this is lee Tav here, ZTAVENDL Hughes Paul J Re: Early Level 12's for sale Julian Morey Call for Unreached Levels seekers Mark Lindup Boon missing?? KNAPPT Re: Mrs. Pink JJBAZ1 GB & LATJC DonZipf All The President's Men Andrew Goodwin Club Tropicana 12", Incognito LP Andrew Goodwin Vocal stuff Jackson, Lolita Lisa Seichter1 Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #10 Brian Flint A first-timer's meandering thoughts... Level42starchild willem en kirsti ------------------------------ Subject: Re: David Beckham From: "smashie" Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:19:06 -0000 >Q : What do you do if David Beckham throws a pin at you ? >A : Run, he's got a pin in his mouth ! A grenade in his mouth SHURELY! Sorry U.S. fans. It'll probably mean nothing to you. On a more L42 note, Eric it's great to have the digest back. Look forward to seeing you guys at Bartok in the next couple of weeks. Sadly I couldn't make this Wednesday gone - but it's great to hear it was a good gig. I don't know how much this has been discussed before but the remake of Lessons In Love is IMHO fantastic. Was it released? It just goes to show that the collection of songwriters in Level 42 are pure genius. Very few songs can stand the test of time and be re-made... and *still* sound fresh and up to date. All this heavy Level listening has come up because my little brother visited last week saying how much he loved that one that went "du du du dum dum du du du dum dum"... roughly translated as 'Heathrow'. It just reminded me how I would play those albums morning, noon and night when I was a teenager! Fantastic. P.S. Mrs Pink. We love you. ------------------------------ Subject: Hi, this is lee Tav here, From: "ZTAVENDL" Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:35:18 -0000 This is lee here, and im a 16 year old mad bass player who thinks "Mr King" is a rather good musician. Im a level head, and do any of you remember my introduction messages at Lisbot.com. My address is: Ztavendl @ fullbrook.surrey.sch.uk By the way, looking at what someone said about jamiroquai production credits, is that the same gary barnacle that plays the fantastic sax section on "Heathrow", i must admit, when i first recognised his name in the "travelling without moving", i was well impressed. My favourite song is "Sandstorm", and my favourite bass line from Level 42 is off "Almost there". Gotta go, looking forward to anyone interested in giving out messages! ------------------------------ Subject: From: Hughes Paul J Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:50:01 -0000 A late entry from a new kid (even though I'm almost 32!!) on the (email) block! I have been into the boys since 1981 - a pal of mine's older bro' got us into Level 42...what an impact this had on a bunch of 13 year old South East Londoners! A far cry from the New Romantic poop that was taking hold of all and sundry. But not us, oh no. Level 42 have played a major part in my life ever since - 'Something About You' was even the song my wife and I had as our first dance at our wedding! My vinyl collection is almost complete - I'm only missing 'Love Meeting Love' (12"), and 'Beezer One'. Can anyone tell me how rare 10" copy of 'Leaving Me Now" is, and what it would fetch (not that I'd ever consider selling!!). I've seen the boys on 13 occasions and: was present at Woolwich Coronet in 1985 when 'A Physical Presence' was recorded, attended 3 nights at the 1990 Hammersmith stint, was at the Albert Hall on October 14th 1994 - and am not ashamed to admit that a few tears were shed. Also saw MK at Shepherd's Bush and Croydon on the 'One Man' tour. I was also at the Jazz Café in November. If anyone has got a copy of the live album from this gig, can you let me know if ,during the bass solo b4 'Mr Pink' you can hear my dulcet South East London tones yelling ' go on my son' at the top of my voice? My eldest is only 6, yet can already recite most of the lyrics from the bigger hits - and counts 'Pamela' as his favourite MK solo tune. My favourites are probably 'Something About You', 'Love Meeting Love' and 'You Can't Blame Louis'. Anyone live in the South East London/North Kent area? PAUL EMAIL Paul.Hughes @ icl.com ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Early Level 12's for sale From: Julian Morey Organization: Club 21 Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 12:30:37 +0100 Level 42: The Chinese Way (extended version) 12" single (POSPX 538 b/w 88 (Live) plus the bundled "12" of Weave Your Spell (Extended Version) (POSPX 500) b/w Dune Tune (live) Love Games (Live) both singles are near mint and covers are very good(+) £10 for the pair plus p+p please reply to julian.morey @ virgin.net ------------------------------ Subject: Call for Unreached Levels seekers From: Mark Lindup Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 05:28:31 -0800 (PST) Can the following people confirm whether they REALLY want to obtain unreached levels CD set or not, and if so, I'll send you the details. This is the last opportunity to get it, my burner gets a bit tired of burning always the same cd's ;-) Europe only of course. US/Asia residents should contact Winman for details. Full details on this 4xCD set are available at (the best Level 42 resource) http://www.forevernow.com If no reply, you will be deleted from the list. If I receive nothing within 3 weeks after email confirmation, you'll end up in the recycle bin aswell, hope you understand, sorry! Tom Slikker tony iles JOHN SHORE Steve Henty Roy Lake Mike Pritchard Mark M Walsham Brian Moore patrizia andreozzi Turner, Joe Sarah Biles Palmer, David Verónica Sánchez Pete Willis Sem Hillenius thanks! greetings, 'the set creator' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Subject: Boon missing?? From: KNAPPT @ ldcorp.com (KNAPPT) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:07:04 -0500 >>we almost had a 'full set' of L42 working on it, including Wally, >>with only Boon missing. Boon wasn't totally missing He wrote the lyrics, which IMHO are far superior to guaranteed (even though I like that albumn too) theron ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Mrs. Pink From: JJBAZ1 @ aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:16:35 EST My husband and I read every edition of this newsletter (from way over the pond, in sunny California) and (although we don't write too often) we have thoroughly enjoyed your contributions. Last weekend we tried, in eager anticipation, to access your website and since entry was denied we imagined it was because you were busy redecorating. It was with sadness that we read your true story. The world seems to be full of muck-ups who want to spoil the party for everybody. This same thing has happened in my (once) favorite Santana site, and in Barry's favorite go-karting forum. Now the disease has spread here, and it's BEYOND A SHAME. Your personal site notwithstanding, don't let anybody try to throw you off of THIS bus!!! Remember, YOU ARE IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT!! We will do our best to protect and support you. Stiff upper lip. Yours from America-- Jan B. ------------------------------ Subject: GB & LATJC From: DonZipf @ aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:15:40 EST > For those interested Bernie was the brains behind Goodfellow and > Nightingale basses but after getting shafted by the corporate manufacturing > machine now handbuilds custom basses from the basement of Gig Sounds, > a music shop in Streatham, South London. Sorry, but your info is a bit out-of-date. Bernie has since formed GB Custom Guitars with Giles Ballantine and Dick Straker. His R&D shop is in Croydon, while the factory - with at least four craftsmen - is in Brighton. His basses have changed quite a bit since then, as well. BTW, "GB" stands for your choice of: Goodfellow Basses, Giles Ballantine, or Great Britain - take your pick! * * * * * * * On the subject of LIVE AT THE JAZZ CAFE: I don't see why any MK fan wouldn't love this disc - it's fabulous! If you were expecting the lush production values of Level 42, forget it - you were wrong to expect that. This stuff was recorded in a small club on DA-88 machines, and probably mixed on a Mackie 8-bus mixer (like the one used to record it). Given the budget, I think it's fantastic. Would I like to remix it myself on better equipment? Absolutely! But one's expectations must be kept in line with reality. Otherwise, you'll always have something to whine about [apparently, some people just like to whine]. It's not gonna get any better for us, gang. Enjoy what we have, while we have it. Cheers! - Don Z. ------------------------------ Subject: All The President's Men From: "Andrew Goodwin" Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 18:32:51 -0000 Well, I have to say I'm disappointed in you all. In your response to MrsPinkGate that is. Where was the rounding up of the posse? The threats of physical violence? The co-ordination of mass e-mail bombardment? What's happened to the senseless mob mentality that surfaces when something comes along and rocks these idyllic, level (tee hee) waters? Tsk. A panegyric to Lisa for her commendable restraint in not naming and shaming. However, curiosity overwhelms me, so can someone please spill it? > Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #9 > From: L.F.Green @ shu.ac.uk (Laurence F. GREEN\(SED\)) > > My dad likes Barry Manilow. Faye and I are considering having 'Bermuda > Traingle' (the most hilarious song of all time) as the first song at our > wedding reception. Try to see it from his angle. > Subject: hmm, what is the subject... > From: "JENNY LINDSKOG" > > 1. Really AG, your sense of humour is getting worse and worse! > Maybe you should take more irony pills? ;) Sorry, I've been a bit tied up sending needlessly malicious e-mails to ISPs. > 3. What song do would you listen to while dancing naked in your apartement? The Funky Gibbon by The Goodies. > Subject: The Xoom Whistleblowers and Shunters Social Club > From: ERICWHE01 @ aol.com > > Anyway, on a more serious note can someone say what is happening with Mr King > ? He has sold Joe Daflos, put out a (IMO poorly produced) live album quicker > than Live Aid did Actually, there was never a Live Aid album. I realise this is neither interesting nor amusing, I merely mention it as a tribute to the lost art of pedantry. AG ------------------------------ Subject: Club Tropicana 12", Incognito LP From: "Andrew Goodwin" Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 18:37:16 -0000 Many moons ago someone (possibly Dirk Vael) was looking for the 12" of Club Tropicana, which has finally come into my possession. So if that person is still after it, let me know. Also, I've got the first Incognito LP 'Jazz Funk' to sell, so if anybody's after that drop me a line. Sleeve a little worn, but the vinyl is fine. AG ------------------------------ Subject: Vocal stuff From: "Jackson, Lolita" Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:06:15 -0500 >Actually, falsetto is a part of your range and good singers are those you have completely smoothed the transition so that in the case of an ascending scale the transition takes place as early as possible and on the descending scale as late as possible. This has been the hardest thing for me to accomplish as a jazz singer, and has taken me years. I finally have it though. I basically just always describe it as The Head Voice versus The Chest Voice. >Mike sings in falsetto sometimes also and it sounds so good because he has managed, or is genetically suited to have his falsetto sound very close to his true voice. Dead on! That is a very good description of Mike's voice. >In other words, the section of a range where the voice most naturally falls and has the most resonant quality. I have a low bass range, but am a baritone not because I can not hit the notes, but because the sound of my voice resonates at a higher frequency and the sound quality of my low notes is not that of a bass singer This is the best description of this that I have ever heard. Then again, I have never taken a voice lesson or a vocal music class in my life, so this is most likely standard fare. I have no idea what I am; I have a wide range [contralto to fairly high soprano], but I think I am your basic alto. I figure that my speaking voice is really what gives it away, and I have the same speaking range as Oleta Adams and Cassandra Wilson, both of whom are altos. >True about John, Gary and co. I've been checking out my Jamiroquai albums and found them in the credits which I was happy to see. Also, check out Swing Out Sister's Live at the Jazz Cafe CD [not to be confused with Mark's; I think it is a different Jazz Cafe in Tokyo] from '94. The Henpecked Horns are all over it, and there is an unbelievable solo on Breakout from Gary Barnacle. >Hey levelheads,as I start aquiring more info about the band I discovered a CD called "As years go by",at least I think its been released,however I can't seem to locate it in all level42's discographies could someone please advise me about getting it here in Toronto.Thanks james Um, it's not on the discography because it was done by this very digest!! It is an unofficial bootleg that we did in 1996 [I am proud to say that I wrote the liner notes, with help from Loz]. I'm sure someone from here will contact you about possibly burning another one, but the last ones were burned some time ago. Subject: Mike Lindup at bartok From: John.O'Connell @ Equant.com Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:33:45 +0000 WHERE WERE YOU ALL? Janet and I had a fantastic time at Bartok and were really surprised that there were only a couple of faces we recognised in the audience. Believe me, if I lived in England I would have been there. Lolita **** Important Notice to Recipients **** It is important that you do not use e-mail to request, authorize or effect the purchase or sale of any security or commodity, to send fund transfer instructions, or to effect any other transactions. Any such request, orders, or instructions that you send will not be accepted and will not be processed by Morgan Stanley Dean Witter. **************************************** ------------------------------ Subject: Lisa From: Seichter1 @ aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 17:17:06 EST Mrs Lisa Pink, don't know you personally, never met you (but recognized you in the Jazz Café in November).....and don't know exactly what happened there with your site......but just would like to tell you how much amazing I found your PASSION for your website.....!! I surfed through it a lot of times, enjoyed it and always thought how courageous it is to share all these personal experiences with "the entire world"! Because it makes someone very vulnerable.....and I guess that's in a way what happened here.... There always will be people who are envious of what other people have.....because they don't have it or something like it....I for myself enjoyed it e.g. to see how often you obviously met MarkyBaby (and the other boys).....*youluckyyou*.....and he even played "Mr Pink" for YOU!!!!......*youmusthavebeeninheaven*.....(Mark, that was soooooo, so, so nice of you!!!!!).....and just don't forget: nobody can ever take THAT away from you!!!......know what I mean?? Keep your passion for all this.....no matter if you share it with others or "just" on your own.....JUST KEEP IT!! (I'm sure there is no other way for you anyway..*smile*) Hugs, Sabine ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #10 From: "Brian Flint" Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 16:04:30 PST I realise there are a few different types of people here (Master of the obvious comments to follow). There are those that enjoy collecting every little bit of Level 42 memorabilia they can possibly get there hands on. Speaking of which, any body who wants a copy of A Physsical Presence volume 1 on LP let me know. I'm not one of those people, I enjoy the music and that's about it. Then there are those that are bass players, which I am part of. Now, just like every other past time, some of us get so into it we know the difference between the gages and styles and components and every little bit of tedious spec info we can possibly gather. That is fine, but I'm not one of those. I'm along the lines that if it sounds good it's fine. I've gotten strings from brands I've never seen. I've made strings last long because I boil them, I owned a bass called Mako once. Anyway, what's my point? I have no idea....... Anybody know of a website that has chromatic scales written out for the majority of the obscure keys. Just a curiosity. Buh Bye Bri ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: A first-timer's meandering thoughts... From: Level42starchild @ aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 01:01:59 EST Hello Digesters, I'm a first-timer to the digest, though I've been camping out for about a year. I thought, as such, that I should finally make an appearance. The first Level 42 song I ever heard was Freedom Someday, when my best friend put together a tape of songs for me that had that one on it. It took me some time to figure out that it was Level 42, and when I heard Heaven In My Hands, I started looking for more of their music. The lyric, then and now, speaks to my life particularly. I can't tell you much about instruments people play, or how they do it, but I, like all of us I'm sure, know when a song stirs me in my soul. Heaven In My Hands did it for me, and Children Say also does this for me, particularly the line, "why don't the dreams of the young ever come to be?" It makes me wish I knew how to play an instrument or sing, and I'm thankful for someone else who can articulate and express how I am feeling at a particular moment. Leaving My Now and Lying Still are beautiful songs to me. I'm listening to Leaving Me Now as I write this and I'm amazed at how it brings back a memory of someone I hadn't thought of in quite awhile. I also love how the beginning of It's Over draws me into the song, and how I was disappointed when Level Best came out, because all I could think of was how the beginning was edited out. Silence is another beautiful ballad, as with many of the others, musically and lyrically drawing me into a memory, and a pondering of things going on in my life. I enjoy reading what others have to say about different songs, as that causes me to listen to that song (if it's in my collection) to enjoy it in my own way, and appreciate why others in this group enjoy the music. I read about many of you who own nearly everything Level 42 have produced, whether it be audio or video, and have seen some form of the band in concert either as a unit, or as soloists. I don't own nearly as much as I would like. Much of that is due to the music stores not carrying much of a Level 42 selection. They didn't carry them much in their prime, and as you can probably figure, carry them even less now. But I'm growing my collection, thanks to what little I can find here, and now, with internet CD stores. And I've never seen Level 42 in person or on a video. For a long time, I had no idea what any of the members of the band looked like. But in many ways I'm happy for that, because I didn't have anything to help me interpret the songs but my own ears, heart and soul. That, to me, is the best interpretation. I hope Mark and Mike's solo work catches on. I've only heard limited selections of Mike's work, and I have the One Man CD, which has grown on me quite a lot. Well, thank you for letting me have the opportunity to share how the music has moved me. I am happy to have found like-minded people, even if we all have different favorites for different reasons. All of our favorites are valid. We all relate to the songs in different ways. Maybe someday I can catch a Mark King or Mike Lindup show and be moved by the music in person. Who knows, maybe one of them will make it to the U.S. We have an Isle of Wight in Virginia, where I'm from also. It would really mean a lot to me to have the privilege of seeing a performance. Thank you all for keeping the spirit alive. I enjoy hearing the reviews from the shows, and viewing all the different Level 42-related web sites. Lisa, I hope somehow you don't become too jaded at one person. Because as I'm sure you've seen by the postings and e-mails you've probably received, your work is highly appreciated. I know that without your work, and that of other people sacrificing a lot of their time and money, I, and many others, wouldn't have had the privilege of learning more about the people that made up Level 42. Nor would we have heard or seen so many different things that I, and the rest of us, love. So I thank you, and the rest of the Level 42 digest and fans the world over. Thank you for reading this rambling, meandering tribute by someone who's spent many Hours By The Window, but until now, has remained in Silence. And thanks to Mark, Mike and the rest of the band for sharing what you have with the rest of us. We appreciate you also. (To Terri H., I enjoyed reading your interpretation of Good Man In A Storm. That was a large reason why I felt compelled to write the digest, because I saw how you interpreted the lyric to that song, so thank you, and again, to all of you.) Sincerely, Jimmy "A Starchild lost in space" Level42starchild @ aol.com ------------------------------ Subject: From: "willem en kirsti" Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 20:42:03 +0100 Qouting DonZipf....Digest V2000#9 ."Alex Carter from the Bass Centre was showing me a Daphne Blue GB w/ bule LED's which he'd brought for Mark to try. It was very similar to Mark's blue one, except it had a maple fingerboard," "Well, everybody who saw the bass, assumed it was Mark's and came rushing over to pose with it for photos, and I'm sure they've shown all their friends the pics of them with "Mark King's bass" - but guess what? It isn't. " Gues what Don....I made my pic on monday. I saw Bernie taking the bass off stage and put it near the PA man.(the flightcases from Mark were there) While Bernie was talking to David (the tourmanager) I asked Bernie if he could turn the bass ,so that I could make a picture of it. Bernie suggested to take the bass by myself , and to play a little on it (Bernie took the pic when I'm holding the blue one). After some chit chat he told me that he had more basses upstairs and if I waited a couple of minutes he would bring them downstairs. Marks red cherryburst was already downstairs and Bernie came up with a model that looked similar to a Alembic(I forgot to ask what kind of model it was , as I was very enthousiastic bout holding M's basses). I remember that there were another 2 guys that evening, who also picked up the bass and made some pictures of it. Since you brought up that issue I checked my pics, and did noticed that the pics that I shot on tuesday were indeed NOT Marks bass....(you probably have seen the bass lying on the floor in a flightcase in the midddle of the JC.) If you want to take a look to the picture, me holding one of Marks basses then you should check out my website.. I don't had the time to update it but anyway it's something....When you're there then goto the section "Who am I" you'll see the picture...then go with your mousepointer to the pic and wait a few seconds and you see another bass. (maybe you can give me some more details bout the second bass, although the pic aint that well) Also the picture gallery has some nice pics of Mark/level 42, probably e few you've never seen before !!!! (nice are the pics when Mark promoting basses, which i never have seen him play). Hope you'll enjoy...maybe you will sign my guestbook ? Cheers Willem. Ps. of course you need the URL. http://www.go.to/w.w.w.