From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest) Subject: Level42 Digest V2000 #102 _ ____ _ ____ _ _ ___ // //__ // / //__ // /__// __// //__ //__ \\_/ //__ //__ // /__ D I G E S T Level42 Digest Volume 2000 : Issue 102 1309 subscribers Today's topics: australian shepherd dogs kick ass s.hillenius TGIF Steve Robson more bass stuff... Jason Bell Bootsy Winston Walker Something about you Mark Summers RE: Level42 Digest V2000 #100 Mike Lavin MK's strings Vivient Gill Earth, Wind & Fire/Level 42 comparisons & Tito >> Anthony Richards Thanks John.O'Connell Level42 and EWF Fotos, Asha BASS!!!!!!! Nick Smith Earth wind and Fire Alex Humphries LEVELFEST & HITCHHIKERS M. Payne Mark King Fan Club. Sarah Biles Something About You Vid brian bacon Something About You Video brian bacon Mike Lindup Paris date cancelled Bilal42 Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #101 Cymrusmc Old School Funkstahs! Cymrusmc Husbands & Level 42... Cymrusmc Slapping & Grooving Cymrusmc Real time Eric Gonzalez ------------------------------ Subject: australian shepherd dogs kick ass From: "s.hillenius" Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 12:28:58 +0200 < P.S. Here's going out on a limb.....does anyone like Australian Shepherd < dogs? < < Crystal Yeah I happen to own all their cds ;-) And can somebody tell me what 'strumming' means. Oh and thanks for giving away the L42 thing in MI2 Another movie I don't have to go and see. Sam ------------------------------ Subject: TGIF From: Steve Robson Organization: Cadence Design Systems Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 11:35:53 +0100 > P.S. Here's going out on a limb.....does anyone like Australian > Shepherd dogs? I do! But I couldn't eat a whole one. ------------------------------ Subject: more bass stuff... From: "Jason Bell" Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 12:22:02 BST Jimbo wrote: >I must confess that my first bass was bought from Argos of all places (to >those of you who don't live in the Uk - it's a shop where you pick >an item >from a catalogue and you are just given it without even seeing >it). LOL! The last thing I bought from Argos was a water filter and a bookcase....... >I must be the most luckiest guy in the world, cos this bas was >a "Marlin >Slammer" - (ever heard of it - I haven't), but the frets >were knocked in >so true (obviously a complete fluke), so when I took >the action right down >- pronto - an instantly playable (and slappable) >bass. Marlin, oh yes I remember them well. They used to do the Slammer's in Pink and I was desperate to get hold of one, I actually got a job in the guitar shop and worked for my basses. I'm currently waiting for my new bass to be delivered - Liberty Guitars make a wicked four string, the thing I liked about it was the fact that the neck played faster than I can hit it. It has a lovely Tony Levin roundness to it. I'm thinking of sending it for the LED treatment. >In hindsight, this is obviously not hte route to go. Correct. Never go to Argos to buy instruments or livestock. >If you're a >beginner, try and get somebody that can play to go with >you >to a >proper music shop (I've just done it with my best mate and >picked up >a >bargain for £150 which is not a great sounding bass, but >plays well). > >Once you can play well on that, move on to something >that sounds nice >(and will obviously play just as well). The best advice I've heard in ages, I've accompanied many a Trace Elliot purchase. Basic rules of thumb. i) play the bass without plugging it in - listen closely, are the acoustic notes you are playing, are they clear and ringing nicely. You'll know when it's good, it'll feel good. ii) Right plug it in and test the bass. Any major buzzes ? If it's active has the battery been changed etc etc Some guitars spend a lot of time in shops..... Walk under lights, tube lights and stuff and see if the bass buzzes badly, if it does get the nice repair man to check all the shielding in the inner workings. iii) If you decide to buy, get the shop to set the instrument up with a NEW set of strings. Your paying good cash, get good service. Regards Jase ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: Bootsy From: "Winston Walker" Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 07:45:40 -0400 Hey Joey, I have to agree with you regarding Bootsy Collins funky bass playing. He proves you dont have to play 100 miles and hour, to be funky. However, while Bootsy did write the track 'Funkentelechy with George Clinton, he did not play bass on the track. Cordell 'Boogie' Mosson did the honors. tcoy, Win ------------------------------ Subject: Something about you From: "Mark Summers" Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 12:48:06 -1000 Fred, The Two-Bit Bass Player The woman in the "Something About You" video is well known actress Cherie Lunghi (probably most well known for Kenco coffee ads and as the manager of a male football team in the drama "The Manageress"). :o) Regards Mark Summers www.msummers.force9.co.uk/level42.htm ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Level42 Digest V2000 #100 From: "Mike Lavin" Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:08:25 +0100 Hey another one with good taste when it comes to pure grooves, of course you will have heard the album done together by EWF and level42, Standing in the light, possibly one of the best albums of the 20th and you can really hear ewf all over every track, the best being Out of sight out of mind!!!? I had the pleasure of seeing ewf in 1982 at nec in birmingham in front of 70000 people and again in 98 in front of much less at manchester appollo but wow what a gig that was, anybody go to those gigs, like to hear your comments?!Shame about Maurice White not being at the last gig hope he is better soon, Keep the Faith Mike.J ------------------------------ Subject: MK's strings From: Vivient Gill Organization: @Home Network Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 10:21:17 -0400 Howdy levelheadz Could someone, or the masses let me know what type of strings MK has used maybe evan break it down to the concert or evan the tune. Onward to another tune, "Aooooghaaaaaaa" MINI LEVEL FEEST NYC boat ride around Manhattan, lots o muzac from CD 101.9 If any one is interested get in touch ! The date is June 20th The boat leaves from Pier 62 at 23rd St, right next to Chelsea Piers cost $40 buckaroonies per person. Food & drinks are available but you got pay x-tra. So far 6 in attendance incl. yours truly. Boat leaves at 6:00pm arrives back @ 8:30pm with a bunch of drunken levelheadz singing "children say" on board. I was slowly going no where, drowning on dry land..... I was almost stranded there a ship wreck on the sand... Now I race the hold world over making my demands..... I won't stop until i've seen Level 42 an incredible band..... & that will come true when Mike Lindup shows in NYC! ------------------------------ Subject: Earth, Wind & Fire/Level 42 comparisons & Tito Puente From: "Anthony Richards" Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 10:22:14 -0400 Greetings all. Thanks to Asha for sparking a great discussion topic! :) If you listen to Earth, Wind & Fire's first two releases on Warner Brothers, and all of their Columbia releases from "Last Days & Time" through "Gratitude", one can definitely hear that EWF's earlier music had a much heavier and distinctly jazzier flavor to it. That's not to say that subsequent EWF releases totally abandoned the jazz influences, but one can almost hear the record company executives saying (especially after the success of "That's The Way Of The World") that the band needed to develop a more commercially accessible sound (does this sound familar to anyone?). The direct parallel to this (and comparison in my opinion) would be the similarities in EWF's fantastic live release "Gratitude" and Level 42's "A Physical Presence". On both releases, both bands are definitely at the top of their improvisational powers, and are really stretching their creative boundaries and "going for it". Although I'm sure that some (or most) people might argue that EWF's most commercially successful releases came after Gratitude (which I can actually agree with), I believe that their most creative/jazzier output occured prior to and including the Gratitude release (similar to the music released by Level 42 from their debut release through A Physical Presence).= But anyway, that's just my two cents worth........... On another note, I think latin music lovers everywhere (including the fellas in Level 42, given their earlier use of latin rhythms) are mourning the passing of "El Rey" and the undisputed "Maestro of the Timbales", Tito Puente. When a legend of this magnitude passes on, surely a huge void is left in the music world. Vaya con Dios Tito. You shall surely be missed! That's all for now. Take care everyone. Don't forget to make somebody happy, and as always........ Keep it funky! "Funky T" Anthony Richards Account Executive/Rainbow Interactive Cablevision Systems Corporation (516) 803-9776 (voice), (516) 396-8742 (fax) arichards @ cablevision.com (e-mail) ------------------------------ Subject: Thanks From: John.O'Connell @ Equant.com Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:34:30 +0100 Just a quick note to say THANKS! Digest #101 was the most interesting I have read in ages! Where have all you lot been, hiding in the corner like me while the "diatribe" continued unabated? (OK so I do know a few big words - another one is bollocks and I was tempted to use it recently in response to all the crap on here.) Happy days, keep up the good stuff..... John ------------------------------ Subject: Level42 and EWF From: "Fotos, Asha" Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 11:38:24 -0400 Joey and Bilal, Hey, I knew I wasn't too far out in left field with the similarities that I had drawn. These two groups are just the best! I actually got a chill up my spine, Joey when you mentioned the song "Dream Crazy" and the similarities between the voices and how they work to complement each other. Also, there are times when both groups will use what I call "fuzzy-sound song enhancers" to fill in the gaps for voices where no words would really be appropriate: as in the song by EWF called "Can't Hide Love": ACTUAL LYRICS FUZZY ENHANCERS You want my love and you can't deny You know it's true but you try to hide, yeah! You turn down love like it's really bad (yow!) You can't give what you've never had, yeah! Well bless your soul you can fool a few... (hoo! hoo!) But I know the truth now so do you... (harou! harou!) The immediate song that comes to mind for Level42's venture into "fuzzy enhancers" is "Physical Presence". At the end of the chorus right before the part where they're singing about "It's not what she did, it's the way that she did it..." there is unmistakable use of enhancers. There is that strange keyboard playing that sounds like snake charming music and then three sounds that couldn't possibly be words: "harou! harou! harou!" I love those improvisions! I think they help make songs distinct! Asha p.s. Bilal, thank you for the link and the compliment about my name!:) Joey, bass-playing in the song "Funkentelechy" has haunted me on many a boring schoolday throughout the years of my childhood. Thanks for bringing it up! Now I'll be humming Parliament songs all afternoon...although I will NOT dance--bop gun or not! ;D ------------------------------ Subject: BASS!!!!!!! From: "Nick Smith" Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 08:43:14 PDT Allo! As there is a lot of bass-related stuff being mentioned/happening at present, I thought I would provide another plug for some great clubs at Yahoo (see below)! As far as `ex-Mark’s’ basses go, I have two (the red JD #00002 and Status Empathy #001), I know Morgan has three (Starchild JD, Status Empathy 5 string and Empathy 4 string), Mike Brooks has one (Ernie Ball MusicMan Stingray), Rob Steen has one (Status Empathy #003), Don has one (the Moon of course!), Sarah Wignall has one (T-Stax?!)etc etc. Is anyone else out there aware of any more – Lisa H (Mrs Pink) has already got her Bass Owners page up and running so it would be great if any other owners could get in touch with her etc. for inclusion on her page! Check out the Clubs! http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/alembic http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ashleypangbornbassenthusiasts http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/bassment http://uk.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/freedom42 http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/jaydeebassessupernaturally http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/statusgraphitebassguitars http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/walbassesnaturally Each of these clubs has links to many other fine websites, some of which many of you will recognise! I know I’m not supposed to advertise on the Digest (sorry!) but I have now started to build a range of custom basses with a mate so if anyone wants any information etc, please get in touch! As far as the question of which bass to start on is concerned – if a bass has a decent, warp free neck, a decent set-up should enable satisfactory playability – as regards Westones, on the most part they are great basses, I have one in my collection, a Thunder IIIA and it performs very well - and it was £120!!!. I have played some very inexpensive basses in the past and have found that they can provide good results with a set-up – its not always the most expensive bass that equates to the best playability (but sometimes it does help!!). The news on the street is that Mark is having 2 new GB basses put together.....incidentally, the Bass Centre (Wapping) has a lovely 4 stringer in at present! Nick ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: Earth wind and Fire From: "Alex Humphries" Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 19:04:47 +0100 Hi! I noticed a couple of digests back some one said about Earth wind and fire, and Level 42 on a web page(mine). Their have been a couple of replys, and if you whant to see what all the fuss is about go to www.happyman.org.uk I'm a newbie to the web world, and I have no MP3's uploaded yet, but keep your eyes peeled!! ------------------------------ Subject: LEVELFEST & HITCHHIKERS From: "M. Payne" Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 14:19:04 CDT

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Douglas Adams hitches a new ride

Hitchhiker's Guide: Richard Vernon and Simon Jones in the original series By BBC News Online's Chris Charles When Douglas Adams gazed up at the stars one drunken evening and dreamed up the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, little did he think it would become a reality. But, thanks to rapid advances in electronic technology, his fantasy of holding the secrets of the universe in the palm of your hand is taking shape.

In the book, The Guide is a portable device that can tell you anything you want to know about wherever you are. Adams' h2g2.com website invites users to give their views on "life, the universe and everything" as they experience it by punching in the details their PCs, or on mobile phones using Wap (wireless application protocol) technology. The 47-year-old author, who is also working on a Hitchhiker's movie, is clearly excited by the project. "Any information you want to put in to h2g2 goes in with the context of where you are," he says.

20 years on, and planning the Hitchhiker's movie

"For instance, if you're sitting in a café anywhere in the world, you can type in 'this coffee is lousy', and it suddenly becomes a significant piece of information to somebody else." Adams admits the speed of events has taken him by surprise. "When I first devised the whole notion of this little device 21 years ago, I didn't think I was being a predictive science fiction writer - it was just a silly idea." In fact, the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy had embedded itself in his brain long before that. "I was hitch-hiking around Europe in 1971, when I was 18, with this copy of A Hitchhiker's Guide to Europe," he recalls. Drunk "At one point I found myself lying in the middle of a field, a little bit drunk, when it occurred to me that somebody should write a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. It didn't occur to me that it might actually be me years later."

Alive and well online: Mark Wing-Davey as Zaphod Beeblebrox
That "silly idea" has since gone on to be a cult radio and television series and Adams is busy helping it on to its next logical step - Hollywood. "Everything is moving slowly, but doggedly forward," he says. "There's been a bit of a logjam where we try to sort out what goes where, but it's getting there." Will the film deviate dramatically from the book, the radio play and the TV show? "Every time I've been through it, I've changed it quite a lot, and this time is no exception. "The story was written as an excuse for lots of different things to happen, a bit like a sketch show, but for a movie you've got to have a story arc.
Views on life, the universe... and coffee
"As a result, there will be a lot of new stuff, but all the key stuff people will be looking for Zaphod, Prefect, Arthur, will be there," he promises. The film has not been cast yet, but it is unlikely the actors from the TV series will be asked to resume their roles, due to the passage of time between the two pro jects. But with Austin Powers director Jay Roach at the helm, the movie, when it is finally completed, is set to be every bit as zany as you would expect. In the meantime, fans will have to be content with creating their own Guide, via Adams' h2g2 site - but will it come to the same conclusion as its author, that the ultimate answer to life, the universe and everything is...42? Adams bellows with laughter at the very thought of it. "Oh dear, I think I disappointed a lot of people with that. They must have been expecting this great, profound piece of genius, but I screwed them!"

For the full story go to the BBC link below (includes pictures):

http://www.news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/newsid_773000/773299.stm

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------------------------------ Subject: Mark King Fan Club. From: "Sarah Biles" Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 22:21:40 BST Please can somebody help me.I was one of those fools that joined the MK Fan Club and haven't heard anything since.The only thing i received was a list of cd"s and videos etc for sale,not the poster or membership card etc that was promised.I have tried emailing this Richard,i think that was his name and haven't heard anything.Please if any one is in the same position as me or knows this Richard please reply to me. Cheers. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: Something About You Vid From: "brian bacon" Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:40:47 GMT Hi Fred, In response to your question, Who's the woman in the Something About You vid? She's an English actress called Cherie Lunghi. She has been in a few TV series over the years the most popular being the Manageress about a UK Soccer team being run by a woman. She is now most famous as the lady on the Kenco coffee ads here in the UK. Hope this answers your question. Keep funkin' Brian. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: Something About You Video From: "brian bacon" Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:44:42 GMT Hi Fred, In response to your question, Who's the woman in the Something About You vid? She's an English actress called Cherie Lunghi. She has been in a few TV series over the years the most popular being the Manageress about a UK Soccer team being run by a woman. She is now most famous as the lady on the Kenco coffee ads here in the UK. Hope this answers your question. Keep funkin' Brian. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: Mike Lindup Paris date cancelled From: Bilal42 @ aol.com Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 18:14:31 EDT We regret to announce that the Da Lata Paris date has been cancelled. Please note, some new Mike Lindup dates will be added to the Mikelindup.com site this weekend, including Holland, 13th July (The Hague), North Sea Jazz Heats. Canada is also a possibility now. The Chelmsford and Stafford V2000 shows may be cancelled though. Bilal http://www.mikelindup.com ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V2000 #101 From: Cymrusmc @ aol.com Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 18:39:24 EDT In a message dated 6/2/00 3:04:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Level42-request @ worldmachine.com writes: << For all of you purists that want this to be strickly a Level 42 content digest then please do the following: Save this next paragraph on your hard drive and fill in the appropriate blanks. Hi My name is (Blank), I'm a Level 42 Fan. My favorite song by Level 42, my faovrite band, is (Blank). My favorite band member of Level 42, my faovrite band is (Blank). I (Have/have not) been to see Level 42 my favorite band, Live. When Level 42, My favorite band, split up I felt (A. Sad B. Depressed C. Suicidal D. All of the above). Someday I hope Level 42, my favorite band, will get back together so all may be happy. >> Oooh, I LOVE fill-in-the-blanks! It's like filling out a credit card application! OK, lemme take a look-see: Hi! My name is Fred, The Two-Bit Bass Player. I'm a Level 42 Fan. My favorite song by Level 42 is "F--- The Police". My favorite band is Milli Vanilli. My favorite band member of Level 42 is Boy George. I have/have not been to see Level 42, my favorite band, live. When Level 42, my favorite band, split up I felt (A. Sad B. Depressed C. Suicidal D. All of the above). Someday I hope Level 42, my favorite band, will get back together so all may be happy. Now I'm a groupie for 'N Sync. Not. --Fred, The Two-Bit Bass Player ------------------------------ Subject: Old School Funkstahs! From: Cymrusmc @ aol.com Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 18:51:57 EDT In a message dated 6/2/00 3:04:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Level42-request @ worldmachine.com writes: << All of this info has rekindled my interest in music in general I had burned out from being a dj in L.A. fo 16 years. Now I go digging in my collection for all my lost gems. Does anyone listen to Tower of Power talk about Da Funk! Love Simply Red, Earth Wind Fire, old Prince, Boz Skaggs, Steely Dan, Robert Palmer ...Etc. Like a juorney thru Music Heaven and Level 42 leads the way. This all rekindled my need to Play my bass again. Got a Peavey G bass, Graphite neck active electronics. It sings when you pluck the string real throaty sound. I really like it. Is anyone else familiar with this bass... I appreciate this digest and all its contributers keep it up. thanx! >> Shout out to SoCali! Whatup?! Being from Oakland, CA, I'm very familiar with Tower of Power (some Oaktown boys from WAY back!) and their old-n-hip funkiness, and of course George Clinton and Funkadelic/Parliament! Can't leave out ole' Bootsy Collins, either! Though Boz Scaggs is from SF, I've never really liked him much, but Silk Degrees is still a classic album. Steely Dan takes me back to my childhood in the early '70's when they always make a 4-year old kid like me get mellow and groovy - and they still do! Kids look at me as if I were an old man for still loving Steely Dan - and all the rest I've mentioned above! Old Prince stuff is still great! That man is way misunderstood! Robert Palmer goes way back, too. Earth, Wind and Fire still rock! I wish some of the younger Level 42 fans would take a look back some and see someone like Miles Davis, a cool cat if there ever was one - he was a genius, simply put. He always got the best bass players to jam with him, and his compositions and work are still mind-blowing! Marcus Miller, Stanley Clarke, etc. Can't forget Jaco! I could go on, but your music collection has to be a lot bigger than mine! Have to remind all them young'uns out there about Level 42's influences! Wish I could go out and grab me a Peavey ANYTHING! Would be nice to get a graphite neck to tighten that sound. Start playing again and see what sounds you can lure out of that bass! --Fred, The Two-Bit Bass Player ------------------------------ Subject: Husbands & Level 42... From: Cymrusmc @ aol.com Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 18:55:00 EDT In a message dated 6/2/00 3:04:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Level42-request @ worldmachine.com writes: << P.S. Here's going out on a limb.....does anyone like Australian Shepherd dogs? >> Yeah! What goes well with them: red or white wine? :-) --Fred ------------------------------ Subject: Slapping & Grooving From: Cymrusmc @ aol.com Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 19:09:04 EDT In a message dated 6/2/00 3:04:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Level42-request @ worldmachine.com writes: << Subject: To Slap or Not to Slap From: "Joey Vela" Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:20:48 -0500 Levelheads (especially the bassists), To the person who said that slapping is overrated, I only partially agree. I think that slapping is actually more "overdone" than overrated. I've seen so many Flea and Les Claypool wannabes here in H-Town who think that slapping is all you need to be a good funk bassist, and I just laugh. These are the same cats who couldn't do a walking bassline or finger-style groove to save their lives. Some of the funkiest basslines ever aren't slapped. >> "Overdone" is probably a better word! Sure, too many out there who over-slap and try to copy Les and Flea; slapping forever does NOT a good bass player make! But, this was more for the guy learning bass. Man, I would KILL to play like Mark King or Les Claypool or Michael Manring or Bootsy, but I'll say again: you gotta start with the slow and booooring basics, no matter how much you want to bust out like Mark or whoever. That includes doing boring old scales, walking pentatonic scales, etc. Then, once you master all that, start branching out! After not playing for six years, I have to essentially start over with my books and doing scales or whatever - I'll slap and pop for fun, but only in the confines of strengthening my old music theory. A good example of finger-style playing is Jaco, who didn't slap and pop all the time, either. Listen to "Tune Town". L42's "The Chinese Way" is an amazing bass line that is really the song's melody and bass together! THAT's the way to maximize the bass guitar, I think. And Bootsy sure does go WAY back! He didn't slap-n-pop much, but yeah: he WORKED that bass with love! Still does, too! But I mentioned before in the Digest about strumming chords, as Mark did occasionally. That's another great style or technique that many good bassists don't try often. Les Claypool does it best from what I hear -- I wouldn't mind being a Les or Mark wanna-be at all! Shoot, I remember seeing Primus play in the basement in Cloyne Court co-op in Berkeley in the late '80's and early '90s. They just rocked! (I think they think L42 sucks, but whatever!) --Fred, The Two-Bit Bassist ------------------------------ Subject: Real time From: "Eric Gonzalez" Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 11:48:37 +1000 To Fred, the two bit bass player: In the Mid 80's, BBC did a Master-Class series for various instruments. Naturally, Mark King was the guest Master Bass player. When it was put to him that some of his recordings (esp. on 'Influences') were inpossible to do in real time, he laughed, picked up his bass and played them, live, and proved everybody wrong. He also said, at that time, that he would never record bass lines that he could not reproduce live, in real time.My bass teacher gave me a copy of the tape. Perhaps you can track down a copy of this tape from the BBC. I got the tape in 1988, so it was done between 1984 (influences was released) and 1988. I doubt MK would pull a swifty on us. Eric G.