From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest) Subject: Level42 Digest V99 #177 _ ____ _ ____ _ _ ___ // //__ // / //__ // /__// __// //__ //__ \\_/ //__ //__ // /__ D I G E S T Level42 Digest Volume 99 : Issue 177 1104 subscribers Today's topics: Re: Name that tune Steve Robson Thanks Gaetan Duperron fusion, etc Winman42 Miscellaneous drivel Pat Flanagan SITL, Jamiroquai, jazz discussion forum Joey Vela The Decades Cliff.Barua Global peace on the digest ? Kay Anthony Music Daniel James I: Publicly acclaimed reunion? Magnani Paolo Squeek Squeek Said the Mouse Brian Flint Re: Level42 Digest V99 #176 MRakes1375 Re: Thomas Dolby, et al.. Sean D. Green Bad public..hmmm.. FortunatoX SITL & Brit Funk Andy Smith ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Name that tune From: Steve Robson Organization: Cadence Design Systems Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:45:39 +0100 > Subject: Name that tune > From: gregory.jamate @ bellatlantic.COM > > A_G E D D D E * * A_B B B D B B A G E E Dunno about the tune but if you're talking hex then it's a REALLY BIG NUMBER. Regards, Steve (this signature intentionally left blank) - ---------------------------- Subject: Howdy Friends! From: mark.king @ basshead.co.uk Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:42:42 -0400 EDT Hi All, Just surfed on in to say a big thankyou to everybody for your support and enthusiasm this last year and forever! Happy slapping, Mark ------------------------------ Subject: Thanks From: Gaetan Duperron Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 06:11:43 PDT Thank you guys for your BNH and Incognito recommendations. I'll check 'em out soon. Have a good weekend, and Go Knicks!!! Please!!! GD ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: fusion, etc From: Winman42 @ aol.com Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:19:08 EDT Gaeton, I have to disagree with you a little bit, and I guess it comes down to what we both 'view' as Fusion. To be hoest with you, I've never really considered Pat Methany or 'The YellowJackets' as fusion. Both artists have always had a smoother sound then what was typically considered 'Jazz/Rock Fusion'. I'm think more along the likes of Return To Forever, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Weather Report, etc. Most liekly with a heavy guitar theme. Some of the bands that are still doing it include : The Adam Holzman Band Al Dimeola The Brecker Brothers Chick Corea Electrik Band Dennis Chambers Casiopea (who toured japan with Level 42 in 1984) Frank Gambale Gamalon Graffiti Tom Coster Tribal Tech The list goes on and on, and some of these bands include performances by some of the originators of this genre. Tcoy, Win ------------------------------ Subject: Miscellaneous drivel From: Pat Flanagan Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:59:52 -0500 >Other Level 42 link: Drummer for Prefab Sprout (who's name escapes me) >played for Level 42 between Phil and Gary. That would be Neil Conti. >Level 42 content: Standing in the Light has always been one of my >favorite CDs. The only song that I could do without is Dance on >Heavy Weather. I'll go along with you on that. >I even like A Pharoah's Dream [sorry Pat Flanagan - although I still >hate The Chinese Way so that should redeem me in your eyes!]. I would rather hear A Pharoah's Dream 100 times than The Chinese Way once. Such is the depth of my hatred for that song. At least with Pharoah's Dream, I can tune out the goofy lyrics (what, were they trying to impress the guys from Earth Wind & Fire with this mystical Egyptian pap?) and concentrate on some admittedly cool music. But Chinese Way not only has worse lyrics, I can't stand the music! That's the only bright point to the fact that I've never seen them play live, at least I haven't had to endure The Chinese Way, and probably as the last song, so that's what I would be left with. (Pat rubs his hands together and shifts his eyes back and forth in a scheming manner, waiting for the flames to start... MUA-HA-HA-HA!) >I am willing to bet there aren't a lot of Neil Diamond fans on the >digest Neil Diamond is awesome-ly cool. (Really, I'm not being sarcastic. Burt Bacharach is pretty cool, too. The Bee Gees were also mentioned, they're fabulously cool!) >The 80's had a great new sound. Toto, >Duran Duran, OMD, Simple Minds etc plus their share of flash in the pan bands >like WAX and Frozen Ghost. Wow, someone else remembers both Wax (Andrew Gold, famous for "Thank You For Being A Friend" and "Lonely Boy" plus Graham Gouldman from 10cc) and Frozen Ghost. >Who out there really fell for Mike And The Mechanics anyway? Hey, they put on a good concert, and have had at least an album and a half of good songs come forth from their four or five albums. ____________________ PFPD -- newmedia marketing consulting a limited liability company PO Box 281, Granger, IN 46530-0281 v:616.663.2250 -- competitive business advantages through creative technology ------------------------------ Subject: SITL, Jamiroquai, jazz discussion forum From: Joey Vela Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:55:30 -0500 Hello Levelheads, It's nice to know that someone else shares the same disdain that I do for "Dance On Heavy Weather" . To me, "The Ape" is far and away a better tune, which many of you hate and consider the worst L42 song, except Cliff B. who voted for "The Chant". As for the remainder of SITL, which happens to be my least favorite L42 album, "Out of Sight, Out of Mind", "Microkid", "The Machine Stops", and "The Sun Goes Down" are all good tunes, but yes the mix is poor, very "tinny". Just got the new Jamiroquai CD "Synkronized", and I am pleased for the most part. "Canned Heat" is actually pretty good for a disco tune, and I hate disco. I really like "Black Capricorn Day" because it is raw, nasty, and funky, a nice contrast to the slick disco of "Canned Heat". "Supersonic" is also a great tune. I just love the didjeridoo, and I hope that Jay and the boys keep incorporating it into their music. There is a cool jazz message board at http://www.jazzhouston.com/cgi-bin/bbs/threads.cgi. Among the topics are "Best Bassist", "John McLaughlin Vs. Allan Holdsworth", and "Best Ballads" among many others. Many of those who post on this message board have excellent takes. It's worth a look. Regards, Joey Vela ------------------------------ Subject: The Decades From: Cliff.Barua @ ec.gc.ca Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:00:51 -0400 Nice surmisal of the decades by JohnRGab. Being a bit older, 34, I can admit to be being a fan of early Neil Diamond ('66-'72) and the Bee Gees ('67-'76). To me, the 80's were about songs, not groups. It is also where North American music became formatted, and in combination with the advent of the more expensive CD, caused record companies to lean toward the cookie-cutter music scene that is prevalent today (sell oodles of music, quality or shelf-life not necessary). My memories of the late 70's and early 80's were that good bands sold lots of records. I can't say that holds true today. I will have to disagree with you on Alanis Morissette. Though she has toned down the banshee wail a bit, her lyrics are still atrocious. If I may: (sang? to the music of Unsent) Dear Mark, Loved you a lot, I thought you were an unbelievable bass player, Even when you released utter cack like Guaranteed, And wore down the Gould Brothers and caused them to leave She actually sounded better, and certainly looked foxier, when she was our very own Canadian Britney Spears. However, even as an old guy, I'm willing to admit that there are some great artists (mostly British) in the 90's. The 80's were fun, but I wouldn't call it the most innovative period of music. Cliff Barua - Toronto ------------------------------ Subject: Global peace on the digest ? From: Kay Anthony Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:40:38 +0100 Love In A Peaceful World........ There's no chance of that with the sort of rants and ravings that go on the Digest these days is there ?! ------------------------------ Subject: Music From: Daniel James Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:16:28 +0000 (GMT) > Yes, I recommend Tribes, Vibes & Scribes and Positivity by Incognito, > with vocals by Maysa Leak. I'm not to high on 100 & Rising, but I do > own it. As a Brand new Heavies fan, I say picked up all three albums. > Shelter is the album with Siedah Garrett on vocals. It wasn't very > successful but IMO is was very solid. Actually, 100 & Rising is one of my favourites, but it's quite different from their other albums. Actually, all of their albums seem to be quite different from all of the others anyway :) Inside Life is much more R&B/Dance oriented, less Jazz but it's got a few great instrumentals. I do agree with Lolita that JazzFunk is much like the old Level 42. It's got a bit of that early 70's soul sound to me as well. Some of you might find some of the tunes a bit light, but there are a few songs that are quite beautiful on that album as well (The Smile Of A Child for example). I don't agree however about Beneath the Surface. In many ways, that's my favourite album. It's very adult contemporary sounding, but it also has some great song-writing on it, and a kickin' instrumental jam (She Wears Black). Can I recommend an album by Incognito? Yes, all of them. I'd go for Inside Life last. Definitely pick up the Innershade album as well as Maysa's solo album too. > Sorry but AOL had already erased the digest before I could go back and get > your address. I have a still wrapped Darth Moll? Cup Cover from Taco Hell I Don't forget you can always go pick up the most recent (or any past) digests from the web page... > The 90's is basically over and 5 to 10 years from now we are going to look > back and say nothing compared to Alanis Morsette (sp?). Stunning vocals and > lyrics. For me, the 90's was a return to a more acoustic sound, having more > in common with earlier folk music than the highly synthesized 80's sound. I > always have love the sound of a 12-steel-string acoustic guitar in the hands > of a master, say Dan Fogelberg. Acoustic? I wish, then maybe I wouldn't have so many complaints about the 90's. I do agree that talent is where you find it, and I'm not sure that the bands of the 80's had any more talent than the bands in any other era. I may love the 80's music, but I'm sure that's more a matter of having grown up during that time and that I have got some fantastic memories of that period. I've really not been too impressed with the bands of this decade and while I love to blame their lack of talent, I think it's more to do with lack of style. Everything really sounds the same to me, and believe me, I'm sooo glad that awful grunge thing is gone (especially living here in Seattle where it all started from). See to me, the 90's are more about loud guitars than quiet acoustical music. > Subject: The Sun Goes Down (Living It Up) 1998 Remix > From: Ben Wilson Bill, when did your kids get on the digest??? ------------------------------ Subject: I: Publicly acclaimed reunion? From: "Magnani Paolo" Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 22:31:13 +0200 - -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Magnani Paolo A: level42 @ worldmachine.com Data: venerd́ 25 giugno 1999 22.24 Oggetto: Publicly acclaimed reunion? Hey guys, I was here today remembering the good times of Our heros and reading a newspaper that launched the idea through a printed coupon for searching, with the help of people, to re-motivate the football team of our town (this season was disastrous, we were declassed in "C" series) to go back in B. Then, I thought, why can't we launch this idea between us? Can't we join, count us, and ask for the guys to reform even for just one album (eventually released through a minor record company)? I think there are MANY of us who would like to hear "THAT" sound again in this stupidly, disorientatingly nineties almost ended. So, guys, If you agree with me that almost we COULD TRY, let's talk about it. I said: TO LEVEL 42: WE WANT YOU BACK!! Paolo- Italy AVATAR @ CITYNET.RE.IT ------------------------------ Subject: Squeek Squeek Said the Mouse From: Brian Flint Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:11:20 PDT First of All, Hi Bill....You may have already gotten your answer, but I bought One Man (USA) from Amazon.com for 15.50 including shipping. Pretty good considering Virgin had it for 17.99 (Apparantly the USA versio is an import to them) Secondly, I think Adam Ant needs to do some more music, I understand he just had a son and he needs to take care of his wife and his little boy, but Jeez, what a great concert that would be. Have an Ant Invasion reunion tour or something. Actually he could open for the Creatures (remember Siouxsie?) and then have some kind of Sex Pistols tribute band. Hey Freisen, fret none, it happened last week, I was there actually (Mike was out of town so I was filling in for rehearsal purposes) I tried to keep them together. Everything seemed fine when I showed up, they were all getting along great. After a flawless run through of Hotwater, I suggested that Mark and I trade instruments, I wanted to play bass for a little while anyway. He got kind of annoyed with me and started bitching and complaining about getting good help these days. I said fine if your that insecure about your bass playing that I threaten you, no prob. So then I asked Gary if I could play drums, seeing how Mark thinks you suck anyway. So Mark got mad at me and Gary was yelling at Mark. That's when Chris got involved and told me to get the hell out. I replied (On my way out the door) by telling Chris that Mike watches him while he sleeps, with that look in his eyes. Then to my shock, I hear that Level 42 is splitting up, I don't understand, everything seemed so right. How does Adam Ant connect to Level 42? I like Adam Ant, and I also like Level 42....so there. "7 years have come and gone" and we all are still here.....depressing heh? Bri _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V99 #176 From: MRakes1375 @ aol.com Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:37:30 EDT Hello everyone, I'm looking to buy some good Brit funk CD's online. It's very hard to find them here in the USA, so can anyone help with this and name some good groups to buy? I'm looking for the years 75-90. I just don't know a good place to start. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Thomas Dolby, et al.. From: "Sean D. Green" Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:15:05 -0500 Hey Levelheads! Great to hear some opinions and observations about TD's work. I have been a big fan of his for quite a while, and have much of his stuff on vinyl and CD. I just recently ordered "Aliens Ate My Buick" on CD from CD now. For those who are interested in obtaining this most excellent CD, it is currently 30% off from CD now; a price of only $12.94 -- simply outstanding for an import!!! Now, don't let the cheap price fool you, this CD is GREAT!! I don't care for the first tune so much, but the rest are fantastic. Plus, it has got to be one of the best CDs ever engineared!! The sound quality is simply incredible, and the structure has such density, yet clarity. It is ear candy at its finest. Here's a link for those of you who deserve this incredible CD. I'm sure you'll like it!! http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=16900023/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/ArtistID=DOLBY*THOMAS/itemid=425112 If you don't want just a single album, "Retrospectacle" is a fine compillation as well. It offers a wonderful taste of several different pieces from all of his albums, and has superb diversity in the songs selected. Try a listen to "I love you, goodbye" -- WOW!, what an experience on a nice system. _*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Now, for the latest on the LevelRoundup IV!!! (Yeah, I know I called it III before, but I'm just a goof I suppose.) We're getting pretty damn fired up about this whole thing and are looking for a turnout of 20-30 to be there at the very least. The house is undergoing remodeling in many areas, but will have new carpet just in time, and most everything should be completed. (Gawd, I hope so!!!) Don't hesitate folks, we have the ability to shack up several of you for this event without worry. What an experience it is to be able to meet so many of the people you've only seen in written form. I'm not kidding, it is really a great time!! If you are having any notions about coming, then contact me personally at: mailto:sdgreen @ flash.net I would be more than happy to talk with you and make some plans. Remember, it will be on Sept. 17-19!! So make your flight plans soon!! There's going to be some surprises that will really blow your minds!!! Hope to hear from many of you soon!! Best regards, ~Sean -- *********** "The MIDI Extreme" *********** * http://www.flash.net/~questps/midi.htm * *** For the best MIDI files on the net!*** ****************************************** ------------------------------ Subject: Bad public..hmmm.. From: FortunatoX @ aol.com Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 02:02:44 EDT In a message dated 6/25/99 6:02:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Level42-request @ worldmachine.com writes: << All musicians with any talent might as well just go and kill themselves right now. >> Its hard to base merit on sales alone. The truth is that the self produced artists are making headway now, no longer slaves to the labels, and I expect the trend to increase. A few artsts have taken the direction from different levels and the obvious direction is of course the internet. 0(+>'s recent "The War" was released on the internet long before it was available as a compensation tape through NPG records. Now liquid audio might protect the artsts work. I applaud Mike Lindup taking the route of self production. I hope he acheives what he wants artistically, and makes some money as well. Personally I'm hoping he chucks the labels entirely and goes for electronic medium. I wish there had been mp3, RA and Liquid Audio when I was a kid. It was hard tracking down all those Level 42, Tangerine Dream and Kraftwerk alblums in Tennesee ;) I diddn't get PoA untill 89 when my dad took me on a trip to New York. (although the title track was strangley enough the music they played on WCYB TV during pauses for technical difficulties for a number of years.) I think I am rambling, yall. -Jonathon "They've got control of my life. I can't break away." ------------------------------ Subject: SITL & Brit Funk From: "Andy Smith" Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:55:51 +0100 Hi there Levelheads It's been a long time, but I could not ignore the current SITL etc. thread! For me, this album is my most favourite, not a surprise to some of the peeps that know me!! The very first group of L42 songs that I heard and took notice of, were 'A Pharaoh's Dream', 'Standing In The Light' and 'I Want Eyes' back in '83 when I was at music college and heard them at Wendy's Hamburgers in Richmond, Surrey, England, where I was a part-time kitchen guy. A colleague (who I can't remember the name of) played these songs constantly when we'd closed shop. Without him I don't know when I would have ever discovered L42! Well, as boring as it might be - this is how I discovered the music of L42! Funny enough, when I met MK earlier this year, I got him to sigh the cover of this album! How about starting a thread about how all of us digesters got into L42? Excuse my ignorance if this has already been done, but it would be good to read about these most important experiences! To all the digesters that love the early stuff, I must concure with Win and Lolita, if you have NOT discovered the Brand New Heavies and Incognito (and Light Of The World, Inner Shade) get very busy! These bands almost go hand in hand with the L42 feel. Even if you're from the purely 'pop' camp, I'm sure you'll love these bands. TCOY's Andy 'mad L43 trumpet bloke' ICQ number : 6907957 Visit Caduceus Brass On The Web : http://homepage.virgin.net/caduceus.brass