From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest) Subject: Level42 Digest V99 #165 _ ____ _ ____ _ _ ___ // //__ // / //__ // /__// __// //__ //__ \\_/ //__ //__ // /__ D I G E S T Level42 Digest Volume 99 : Issue 165 1087 subscribers Today's topics: jazz cafe 26th nov grund Stuart Zender alienhorse no disaster! h.rademaker Here's one for you... darleneyoung Re: Level42 Digest V99 #163 Violatiana Influences Hayes, Ken [qual] IE Spoken Word EMIKATIE HEY, THAT'S ME!!!!!! Mike Payne Re: Level42 Digest V99 #162 Steve Robson What paper? Winman42 non-fitting Mike alienhorse Gaetan Duperron Famous fans Norman vd Wildenberg Steely Inuit Shoes alex.friesen Karlsberg ComPop grund The Line and the Dot Brian Flint Jamiroquai - Getting the Level Treatment J Shuford BAssplaying and singing willem van der veen Robbie Allwyn & Laura Kelly The art of patting your head & rubbing your sto>> Bill Burnett De heilige koe Norman vd Wildenberg HW Bass tabs Charl Mocke Concerts in Australia Carl Lundgren ------------------------------ Subject: jazz cafe 26th nov From: grund @ zeiss.de Date: 14 Jun 1999 11:43:37 +0200 >Subject: disaster... >From: h.rademaker @ excite.com >Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 15:53:05 PDT >And now it's time for the sad story: >...According to the Jazz Cafe's web site, Mark doesn't seem to play on November >26th!!! I've spend over 250 pounds to buy tickets and make travel. hey guys, no reason to be sad about the 26th missing on the jazz cafe web site! i just spoke to someone at the jazz cafe, and she confirmed that the gig is definitely going to happen. (big sigh of relief). welcome to the digest huge, see you there! hans grund ------------------------------ Subject: Stuart Zender From: alienhorse @ uswest.net Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 04:23:28 -0700 Greetings Rob, Stuart Zender is the Mark King fan of the band Jamiroquai not Jason Kay or the rest of the band, at least when we're speaking of MAJOR influences. I met Stuart after a Jamiroquai show at The Metro in Chicago in 1995. We hung out for a while at the venue and later at an after show party elsewhere. One of the things I had asked him was if he was a fan of Mark King's playing since I assumed, ever since the release of 'Emergency On Planet Earth', that he was a budding M.King-like prodigy. He had only been playing for three years in 1993 when they released their first l.p. (E.O.P.E.)!!! Larry Graham, James Jamerson and Bootsy Collins were also mentioned, as far as I can recall... Best Regards, Karla alienhorse @ uswest.net ------------------------------ Subject: no disaster! From: h.rademaker @ excite.com Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 04:43:26 PDT Dear all, I got a reply from the Jazz Cafe: > Huge, > > Sorry - our oversight. There is no problem with the tickets - the show is > definately on. no worries anymore. Oh by the way, yes my name is a boast: I'm only 7ft2 and that's measured shoulder to shoulder... Best regards/vriendelijker groeten, Huge Rademaker _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ ------------------------------ Subject: Here's one for you... From: darleneyoung @ usa.net Date: 14 Jun 99 05:53:38 MDT Here's one for you.......... Million dollar question......... Which band member doesn't get any verbal recognition for their playing in the "Live at Wembley" video? Two million dollar question is...... How come? 'Are you hearing what I hear?' Dee ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V99 #163 From: Violatiana @ aol.com Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:12:00 EDT Hee HEE HEEE........... That's my new sig Ciao Tianna That's it. No more long ones. In and out in a flash, that's the all new me. Said the Nightfly to his wife. ------------------------------ Subject: Influences From: "Hayes, Ken [qual] IE" Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:18:00 +0100 From: D M Lockhart! Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 00:44:35 BST "Although, one of my favourite films is Terry Gilliam's "Brazil", where, on his way home, Sam Lawry goes to Level 43." I've noticed that a lot of music etc I'm into has a connection with other stuff , like being into Douglas Adams before I found out the 42 connection.I must admit to having a very limited selection of bands , writers etc. that I like so it's very interesting to see nearly all of them mentioned on the digest. I love 'brazil' but thought most people never heard of it, and Steely Dan rocks the shop. Seeing that we all seem to have similar taste,here are a few things you should definitely check out... 1.Thomas Dolby: Golden age of wireless. 2.Jellfish: Spilt Milk (Production masterpiece, like the 'Nightfly', Sgt Pepper of the 90's) 3.Kurt Vonnegut:Sirens of Titan/ Cats Cradle. (Off the wall Sci Fi like Doug Adams) 4. Stainless steel Rat series of books: James bond in Douglas Adams world. 5.Magritte:Surrealist Painter( ..ahh you have to have a bit of art in there) I would love to know if there is anything I'm missing out on in terms of music, books,artists, cd-rom games etc if you wouldn't mind letting me know. Ken. ------------------------------ Subject: Spoken Word From: EMIKATIE @ aol.com Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:20:24 EDT As I do find Nightfly's writings to be the best of any digester, I'm curious as to how the spoken word portion of the program measures up. I mean, does the man speak that way as well? My proposal is to have Andrew submit some sound bites to Winston who can do his magic on them, and then have Carl post some dialogue clips in Real Audio or, for that "wish you were here feel", in mp3. Come on Andrew, use your best material and voice and give us an audio digest post. You know the technology is there and I can sense you want to give it a try. Heck, Winston can do it even if it's not on a DAT :-) The machine stops, John ------------------------------ Subject: HEY, THAT'S ME!!!!!! From: Mike Payne Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:38:27 CDT Hello FRIENDS! BTW, that video taken by a 6'4 (NOT) front row, unseen fan at the MK gig at Wolverhampton, WAS ME :) !!!! I have said to many people that I didn't realise the discipline it took to remain totally silent and still during a MK gig? TOUGH STUFF YOU KNOW! Mind you, not being able to consume a large amount of cider prior (LONDON, for those that were there!)....I wish that vidcam had that anti-movement feature, I could have danced (if that's what you want to call it) the night away! Best Regards, Mikey42 BTW: Nightfly...nice to have you back mate! LISA "MRS PINK" & MARCUS: How could I forget you both, I know SHAME ON ME! _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V99 #162 From: Steve Robson Organization: Cadence Design Systems Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:49:45 +0100 > Subject: Dumb And Dumber > From: Nightfly83 @ aol.com > For those who care (OK, for Steve Robson) the correct answer is 55. Phew! Thanks for that. It had slipped me by, busy as I was, updating my rolling tally of the mean of all the checksums (Unman-Wittering-Zygo method) of all this year's digests. There's bound to be a '42' in it. > Subject: disaster... > From: h.rademaker @ excite.com > > I've spend over 250 pounds to buy tickets and make travel > arrangements... WHAT?! Some people have way too much disposable income. And yes I am jealous. > "Remember, the whole world's circus. Don't you be the clown!" These two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "Does this taste funny to you?" > Subject: tickets, tennis and tips > From: Clare Reeves > > What was it with digest #162.. I deleted it by mistake without reading > it??? Well I dunno, you pressed the button. > Also.. just been watching the tennis on telly. Doesn't Pete Sampras > remind you of a certain great keyboard player? Maybe, but Elton's glasses are much bigger. Regards, Steve PS. I've heard that the new Star Wars movie is a "pile of doo-doo". Anybody care to comment? UNIX admin MITS Europe e-mail: srobson @ cadence.com Cadence Design Systems Tel: +44 (0)1344 866523 or +44 (0)7901 855046 Bagshot Road Fax: +44 (0)1344 866588 Bracknell BERKSHIRE Web: http://www.cadence.com RG12 0PH UK ------------------------------ Subject: What paper? From: Winman42 @ aol.com Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:34:08 EDT Hey AG, i swear to you there was NO piece of paper enclosed in the cassette package. I bet it's under your desk somewhere. :-) And thanks for not introducing yourself in the toilet at Shep's Bush. Up until now, I assumed you heard Carl and I on the main floor. (Carl being my 'burly' friend) I think I'm a nice guy, but I don't exactly want to meet other guys in the toilet! :-) Ah well, that's all today. Win ------------------------------ Subject: non-fitting Mike From: alienhorse @ uswest.net Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:55:23 -0700 PFCPaull @ Level 42 list, Here's an exercise; take away Lindup's work on all Level 42 tracks and listen to them. Level 42's most intricate and interesting work (in My opinion) is their first five albums. Without Mike Lindup's contributions, those songs would have not been completed, recorded, or if recorded; many would have not been a shit as complete songs!!! WHO would have been a more appropriate keyboardist, co-composer, co-lyricist, co-singer and harmony vox. for Mark's that would also 'bottom' to Mark's well known Dominant/directive work personality?!!!? Perhaps someone with a more funky style?... ...Neither Stevie Wonder nor Jimmy Smith were available... Would this imaginary character filling a crucial role in this band have the necessary chemistry with Mr. King and true understanding and feel for Level 42's unique music that would have been absolutely essential to make Level 42 what it was, what it is and what it shall remain?!? Mike Lindup was Mark King's counterpart for years! ...The BEST years (...at least, so far)!!!...Again, in My own opinion. It's so bizarre (to Me) to read someone's thought/message about how Mike doesn't "fit" with Mark King and Level 42! I take it that you are not a composer of jazz, rock, soul, funk or even pop music? I recommend picking up and STUDYING 'The Early Tapes', 'Level 42', 'The Pursuit Of Accidents', 'Standing In The Light' and 'True Colours'... ...You'll THEN learn how and why Mr. Mike Lindup did, and does; "fit". Actually, where would, even, 'Something About You' have been without Lindup's contributions!!!???!!! Damn, that was their best selling single! A brilliant composition and worldwide chart topping hit with much of it; on Mike Lindup's account. I realize that you wrote of your own opinions, these, of course, are simply Mine. Sincerely, Karla Tillers alienhorse @ uswest.net ------------------------------ Subject: From: Gaetan Duperron Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:56:27 PDT >Like the smell of napalm in the morning, there's nothing like the >sight of >a man chastened by 17 irate private e-mails in response to a >throwaway >line. Wherefore thick skin now, eh? Actually, I didn't get a single one. Could this mean that our readers have actually begun to ignore these throwaway lines? My shield has yet to be dented, from the outside anyway... Genuine remorse I guess. There's a first time for everything. There was of course, this: >Thanks for not being against us ef fing Yanks. I thought maybe God >was >giving you other inside information along with who is damned and >who is >not. I really feel for fireflybynite. It's not many people >who get the >inside side scoop from such as yourself in time to mend >their evil ways. >"Here HorseFly, let me take that sliver out of your >eye." Pleaded Gaetan. >"Don't pay any attention to the log in my own, >it won't interfere with my >vision of you!" As Doug Adams stood by >and wondered how improbable it was >that there might be a spandex >covered planet somewhere called Yur'Aynis. Are you, like, trying to be subtle? 'Cos I, like, don't get it. I guess the Nightfly was right. I'm typical of my people, just too dumb. I should have gone to school... This really isn't the place for it, the topics of Canada vs. U.S.A. and Canada's simultaneous fascination and revulsion of things American makes for interesting discussion. As for motor-racing, if only for the incredibly blasé-ed, why don't I like football any more than I do? Nothing like a 0-0 end after extra-time to really get one's adrenaline pumping! ;o) Thanks for the pet-name. I've always wanted one. Jamiroquai release tomorrow! GD, Montréal ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: Famous fans From: "Norman vd Wildenberg" Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:34:19 +0200 Little late but here is another famous fan.... Stanley (not the knife) Menzo. Former goaly of PSV EIndhoven, LIerse SK, and now again AJAKKES Amsterdamned. In holland we have a radio show in the morning with famous people's top 3 lists. He was on it and his nr 1 was RITF. PS. I'm also famous in my family..... Norman van den Wildenberg express @ wish.net http://www.geocities.com/broadway/wing/4099 http://come.to/level42 http://come.to/radioveldhoven http://www.geocities.com/hotsprings/sauna/1060/bolivia.html ------------------------------ Subject: Steely Inuit Shoes From: alex.friesen @ sickkids.on.ca Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:49:29 -0400 >From: olix @ iol.it >>Isn't that an album by Stealy Dan? >Wrrrrong! No, it isn`t an album by Steely Dan... >it`s Donald Fagen`s Grammy winning > Er, you're new here, right? >From: Nightfly83 @ aol.com > >How do the Eskimos find you? > I think they find him around Toronto. The correct term is "Inuit". Although Inuit actually refers only to one segment of the population (like Iroquois or Cree), all the northern First Nations peoples have accepted the term Inuit because they know, quite correctly, that us southerners don't know the difference. Apparently "Eskimo" is a Huron word meaning "nasty buggers", or "blubber-scarfing ice-dwellers", or something. >> "pedagogue": a Jewish place of worship equipped for pedestrian traffic >> only > >I like to think of it as "a gathering of people amazed by feet". > "Follow the shoe!" Name that movie. >all those people who asked me not to estivate > "Estivate": the state of anticipation which builds before a Miami Sound Machine concert. >From: Gaetan Duperron >Mommy, what does "shag" mean? > I assume you're kidding, but many in North America really don't understand this word at all. I saw some dippy blonde on TV hyping the _The Spy Who Shagged Me_, and she smiled at the camera and blurted: "c'mon everybody, let's shag!" Clueless, methinks. Then there was the hit new country tune a few months ago with the hook line "shagging on the boulevard". Excuse me? In Canada you're likely to get arrested for that! >From: Nightfly83 @ aol.com > >Don't feel bad. We let Alex Friesen join in the fun and he never >has anything funny to say. > [Sniff] See if I ever tell you about Quetzleqoatle again. [snuffle] >typical of you dumb Canadians > Yes, but what about those of us who can speak? ...Alex... "Til I saw you in pieces" ------------------------------ Subject: Karlsberg ComPop From: grund @ zeiss.de Date: 14 Jun 1999 17:45:24 +0200 Hi (again) all, alright, so my other mail was sent out a bit late. In the mean time, I've found out a little more about the Karlsberg ComPop and have already decided NOT to go after all. On the 25th of July, Mark King will be playing in Saarbruecken together with Alan Parsons, Patricia Kaas, Roger Hodgson and a symphonic orchestra consisting of 75 musicians. A solo trumpet player named Ole Edvard Antorsen is also playing. This info was taken from the Karlsberg brewery website. The tickets are DM 42 (believe it or not). Fine so far, but they also announce another act called dj bobo (don't worry if you've never heard of him, consider yourself lucky!). I can't stand him! In fact, just the thought of his name being printed here on the digest already makes me sick. As far as I'm concerned, five Mark Kings could be there, under these circumstances I won't! (Sorry Mark, see you in November). So that's that. If you want to check out a brewery website, rather than Karlsberg, I'd recommend our local: http://www.koenigsbraeu.de , they've just introduced a new product: a lager named "KING" !!! TC y'all Hans ------------------------------ Subject: The Line and the Dot From: Brian Flint Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:35:58 PDT First of all, the ability to appreciate and execute sarcasm in an effective way (I.e Funny) is a very difficult thing to do. So, those of you who are seriously lacking in this area, please stick to asking those moronic questions that you already know the answer to and are just asking them to see your name in the digest table of contents. Better yet, send a blank email, your name will still be there and we won't have to endure the contents of what ever tedious subject you happen to be interested in. Secondly, AlienHorse, or whatever the hell your name was. I would've remebered but I was in such a hurry to delete your grafitti from my computer screen, that I missed your pathetic screen name. To the point. Grow up. That's all, just grow up. It's okay to make fun of me. But don't waste my time and insult my intelligence by telling me to go F myself. It's a very simple, weak minded waste human tissue that must use that grammar school insult to get a point across. Furthermore, why can't you post your delightfully flattering message for the rest of the world to see. Why must you email it to me privately? I have nothing to hide from these people, but you most certainly do, what is it? What are you so afraid of saying in front of the rest of us? OH, it's not that is it? You must be afraid to simply voice your opinion in the open. Well, in the future, if you have anything intellectual to say, please address me in the digest because I don't have time to read your profane advice. Your email address is blocked, I can't hear you. Sorry nightFly, not enough time to get to you today. Except for the fact that you'll have to do better than assaulting my grammar. That's a pretty weak argument. For the rest of you innocent people, peace..... Brian Flint "The Killing and Slaying Go on as before" _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Subject: Jamiroquai - Getting the Level Treatment From: J Shuford Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:48:34 -0700 (PDT) MicroKids: Saw this review at cdnow.com. This isn't a good sign for Jamiroquai, as it sounds very much like the kind of label that has been "permanently" affixed to Level 42 by the British popular music media. I was also struck by this idea of the "economically-driven pop album." Not only an album meant to grow commerical success (like "World Machine," in Mark's own words), but as a reflection of the supposed economic "good times" we're in right now (which was the whole Essex Man critique of 42). In the case of Jay Kay & the boys, this may be more deserved. Jamiroquai Synkronized Let's Dance By Mark Jacobs Jamiroquai Synkronized (Sony/WORK) It's been two years since "Virtual Insanity" led Jamiroquai from Britain's bloodshot, nouveau-soul music scene to the podium at the Grammys and MTV Video Music Awards. A disco nap, some Ferraris (a lot of Ferraris?), and an economic upswing later, Jay Kay and the boys have returned for their fourth album, begging and quickly answering the question, "Is there such a thing as an economically-driven pop album?" With Synkronized, Jamiroquai's mission has never been clearer: make jet-set music for the prosperous. The new album serves as a soundtrack for those enjoying windfalls during these late-century boom years. It seems that with the group's new-found global acclaim, the world is now Jamiroquai's own Ibiza. Synkronized is Jamiroquai as skillfully derivative as ever, full of the expected stock funk and soul elements its always accounted for (e.g., flatulent bass lines, didgeridoo, etc.), with the addition of the occasional, somewhat new inspirations (i.e., shades of Steely Dan). The first single, "Canned Heat," epitomizes the album's unrelenting "Just Dance" missive and is already a remix hit in the house clubs that are defining the state of 1999's pre-millennial hedonism. "Supersonic" satisfyingly shows off the band's groovy instrumental chops, and "Falling," with its "too black for me" refrain, lobs even the dimmest of critics the easiest of jabs. As dependable as ever, Synkronized is a canned party -- what you'll hear and not remember on the big New Year's Eve. It may hold no surprises, but the knackered masses should be pleased. Give in if you can. ------------------------------ Subject: BAssplaying and singing From: "willem van der veen" Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:30:07 +0200 Has anyone got any tips on how to sing and play bass at the same time? Well my first word while playing was " hellll !!" the second was .. "oooohhhh" ..so far I can say "hello" to people within two measures. After this fine word to the little audience the music stopped playing ( tha bass) and we had to do the whole song over again . I think practisize is the word here..?! ------------------------------ Subject: Robbie From: "Allwyn & Laura Kelly" Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:06:27 -0600 Watched the repeat episode of the Mtv movie awards last night. During Robbie's so called "entertainment" sequence I decided I needed to go get pull-up's ........................for my son I might add. I have to say I was more entertained cruising the isles of my local grocery outlet. later laura ------------------------------ Subject: The art of patting your head & rubbing your stomach with a Jaydee From: Bill Burnett Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:40:57 +0100 >Has anyone got any tips on how to sing and play bass at the same time? I understand chewing gum helps. ======================================================================== Bill Burnett http://www.sphere3.demon.co.uk/ ======================================================================== ------------------------------ Subject: De heilige koe From: "Norman vd Wildenberg" Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:53:29 +0200 To all dutch digesters.... Do you also hear Love Games every time you watch De Heilige Koe on Veronica??? Every time I watch (about once a month or so) I hear Love games in the background of a clip.... Does Julia like Level42???? Norman van den Wildenberg express @ wish.net http://www.geocities.com/broadway/wing/4099 http://come.to/level42 http://come.to/radioveldhoven http://www.geocities.com/hotsprings/sauna/1060/bolivia.html ------------------------------ Subject: HW Bass tabs From: "Charl Mocke" Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:36:34 +0200 Hi all, Wow!! 41 requests for my Hot Water bass tab since I announced it last week!!! I hoped I mailed it out to all that requested, my mailbox is a bit full and muddled up. Anyone still interested, drop me a line. BTW, 41 requests... one more and that's 42, eh Mr Flint! ;-) The oooo oo logo stands for 42, which is my sign-off motto for each L42 digest message I post. :-) I had a good laugh at yesterday's thorough explanations of the logo! "...wow, you've come far... 4...... 2...... 42!!!!!!!!" hahahahha! Cheers, Charl .... .. Mr. Charl Mocke ISIS Information Systems (Pty.) Ltd. Telkom UNIBase Cape Town South Africa [GMT +0200] E-mail: MockeC @ Telkom.co.za O/H Tel.: +27 (0)21 414-4720 A/H Tel.: +27 (0)21 465-3893 Weekend Tel.: +27 (0)21 854-8005 Cellphone: 083 2857506 ------------------------------ Subject: Concerts in Australia From: Carl Lundgren Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 02:42:42 PDT Can anyone out there shed on any light on the mystery as to why L42 never came to Australia? I always lived in hope until I heard they split up, now all seems hopeless! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com