From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest) Subject: Level42 Digest V99 #16 _ ____ _ ____ _ _ ___ // //__ // / //__ // /__// __// //__ //__ \\_/ //__ //__ // /__ D I G E S T Level42 Digest Volume 99 : Issue 16 963 subscribers Today's topics: Re: Mark King Strings morgan42 Leaving Me Now...MIDI Sean D. Green Re: Live at Pompeii??!! I00584 Mark's strings TH Mark King's Next Single Richard Maybury Kurtis Kegley Sshtreengz DonZipf Live At Pompeii...NOT! Winman42 Re:Digest V99#15 - Undying Loyalty No Matter Wh>> Cliff.Barua Re: Level42 Digest V99 #12 Bill Burnett Re: Level42 Digest V99 #15 Nightfly83 ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Mark King Strings From: morgan42 @ club-internet.fr Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:38:14 +0100 Elites - 30/50/70/90 Morgan. http://www.level42.com ------------------------------ Subject: Leaving Me Now...MIDI From: "Sean D. Green" Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:24:01 -0600 Tony Brown wrote: > I just love the piano at the end of this song and would love to be able to > get a midifile of the song. > > Has anyone seen it anywhere ? I have done the MIDI for LMN, and it is on my MIDI site. I don't have the extended exit part that you are speaking of, but that would be a cool addition to make. So....I'll do it! Give me some time on this, my equipment is still not set up altogether. Peace, ~Sean The Midi Extreme http://www.flash.net/~questps/midi.htm ------------------------------ SUBJECT: Re: Live at Pompeii??!! From: I00584 @ simail.ne.jp DATE: 17 JAN 99 00:02:18 Hello, everyone ! This is Mariko, writing from Japan. This is a reply mail to "Subject: Live at Pompeii??!!" from L42 Digest Vol.99, Issue 15. > Amazon.com lists a VHS video from 1989 called "Pink Foyd > [sic] Live At Pompeii", Starring Level 42 and others. > Never heard of it. Does anyone recognize this video? Well, I have the "Live At Pompeii" videotape right now. THIS is PINK FLOYD 's live videotape. NOT L42 live ! I ordered "Fait Accompli" to Amazon.com, and this Pink Floyd tape arrived. I asked Amazon.com about this PROBLEM, and this is the reply mail came from Amazon.com. > ....I've looked into this and found that "Level 42 - Fait Accomplis" > is a sub title of "Pink Foyd Live At Pompeii". .... Do they (Amazon.com) mean that "Fait Accompli" is a part of "Live at Pompeii" ?? But I could NEVER see from the package of this Pink Floyd video, that it also contains the live of L42. I am very confused, but I think Amazon.com is making a mistake. I am going to send back this video, and cancel the order. That's all. Regards. . ==== * ==== * ==== * ==== * ==== * ==== * ==== * == Mariko Sumikura e-mail : i00584 @ simail.ne.jp . ------------------------------ Subject: Mark's strings From: traceguy @ erols.com (TH) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:35:16 GMT As far as i know, mark is now using strings made by Elite. Same gauge i believe. tom ------------------------------ Subject: Mark King's Next Single From: "Richard Maybury" Date: Sat, 16 Jan 99 16:59:49 PST On reading the digest for the last few weeks, I have to agree with some people's views that I am disappointed that "Changing The Guard" is going to be the next single. I still believe that "Love Wars" has the greatest potential for a top 40 hit for Mark King. Now, I realise that some of the 'popular music' today that sells well is not up to the same standard musically as someone like Mark King. However if Mark does not sell too many records from "One Man" his record company could say bye, bye and he could be left without a record deal (Oh no !). It may have been more prudent to release "Love wars" as the next single. I wonder whose decision it was to choose this track - was it Mark's or the record company' ?. Mark if your reading, it's not too late to change your mind. You could even release a double A single with both tracks - "Changing The Guard" and "Love Wars". One thing I would like to see is Mark's singles being released on more formats. In the days of Level 42, a single would be released on any of the following formats, usually four in total : CD singles(s), 7" single, 12" singles and cassette single. Go on Eagle records with the next single release more formats. I would like to see a 12" version mix of "One Man" as well as some of the previously unreleased solo work of Mark King. Does anyone know when the next single will be released and what the track listings are yet ? With "Bitter Moon" how many copies were sold I and will be there a third single ? On a different note Mark King is appearing on VH1 on Wednesday 20th January at 12:00pm (UK time) - set those videos up ! 'Till the sun goes down, Kansas City Milkman Email : maybury @ nildram.co.uk ------------------------------ Subject: From: "Kurtis Kegley" Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 09:57:33 PST Hi there! Would anyone be willing to get me a t-shirt at a UK Mark King show? Does anyone know exactly what merchandise will be offered? I would send money in the form of a money order that would be payable over there. I would really appreciate it. My only stipulation due to my past dealings is that after money is received that the shirt be sent within 2 months and I would like your home phone number and mailing address for security purposes. I unfortunately can't be as trusting as before. Please e-mail me directly at k_kegley @ hotmail.com & not at the digest Thanks very much!! Kurtis Kegley ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: Sshtreengz From: DonZipf @ aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:05:33 EST > One moer thing. What exactly is the scale, model name, type, and gauge > of the strings Mark is using these days??? 30-50-70-90, I believe. Practically guitar strings. As to the brand, I think he said in a recent interview that he kept going back to the Superwounds, no? Z. ------------------------------ Subject: Live At Pompeii...NOT! From: Winman42 @ aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 14:25:01 EST Will, make sure you dont order that Pink Floyd - Live at Pompei video, as it has nothing to do with Level 42. Amazon has listed this on their site for quite some time, even though it's an obvious error. Don, good call on 'I'm Gonna Tear Your Playhouse Down". Awesome track with even greater bass playing. Tcoy, Win ------------------------------ Subject: Re:Digest V99#15 - Undying Loyalty No Matter What From: Cliff.Barua @ ec.gc.ca Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 15:57:36 -0500 Regarding my comments about Level 42 and Mark's direction, great retorts by Winston and John. That's what makes this Digest so enjoyable! I must agree with Winston as far as Staring At The Sun goes. It definitely was a much "rockier" album. This may have occured more due to personnel changes than intent. This is what I think hurt Level 42 more than anything: the loss of continuity of founding personnel after having some long-awaited success. Nothing against any of the newer members to join, but the sound of the band became a mishmash. Like Winston said, no one can say what an artist's direction is. My philosophy about Mark going "adult contemporary" is that he is a 40-year old newly annointed solo artist who I believe wants to sell some records. His niche audience (us) may want a funkier sound (which he is more than happy to provide in concert), but in today's music, there is no money to be made by a funky, innovative bassist. Unless he's really short of a dollar or two, I would love to see him assemble a top notch studio band and produce an album of funky instrumentals, fancy slapping, and moving ballads (or re-form the original Level 42 and promise to keep Phil happy). Hang on, that sounds like Level 42 up until 1987. Maybe I'm being the Devil's Advocate, but I find it welcome to see something like Don's response to the shots at Toto, REO Speedwagon, etc (at the expense of our Mark's vocals!). I love Level 42 to bits, but I think we need to keep things in perspective. There are good reasons why Level 42 never made it real big, and why Mark's recent solo project has flopped. On the positive side, some of it has to do with musical integrity. Early Level 42 is great musically, great songwriting, but not terribly commercial. That's great! Guaranteed stiffed because it was plain crap (with the exception of a couple of songs). What's so wrong with saying that one of your favourite bands completely struck out in 1991?? Every band has failed a time or two. I sometimes find that to some members of this Digest, a remix album of Mark farting and belching would be better than Beethoven's Fifth. It's not a crime to slag off a favourite artist. Surely Andrew Goodwin must have something he dislikes about a Steely Dan or related project?? Cliff Barua - Toronto ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V99 #12 From: Bill Burnett Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:04:55 +0000 In message <199901131100.GAA00031 @ worldmachine.com>, Level42 Digest writes >Just a little note to all ya bass players out there who have never really >listened to what incredible sounds can be produced from a fretless bass when >put into the proper hands. I think that Mark played a little fretless bass >on the "Guaranteed" album, but I forgot what one can really sound like until >I pulled out my old Gary Numan, "I Assassin" CD on which Pino Pallidino >forces amazing sounds out of his Music Man Stingray fretless. Wow!!! Check >it out. Keep slapping. If you want to hear just how extrordinary a fretless bass can sound, you must hear Mick Karn, his playing on Japan/Rain Tree Crow is fantastic, but most of all, try his solo albums. Thundergirl Mutation from the album The Tooth Mother, is simply awesome, a vast, soaring wall of bass that fills out the bass groove & lead melody in one take!!! >Well, I prefer Michael (not Machael) over Frankie anytime. Wrote, >produced,arranged and played in his projects. Does this mean that my copy of Beethovens 9th is now devalued because the writer/arranger was not involved in the recording. I love Frank Sinatras work, you're getting songs by some of the centurys finest songwriters (Gershwin/Porter/Berlin etc) arranged by top orchestrators (Nelson Riddle for example) performed by one the greatest singers of all time. I also love Michael Jacksons music, but because it sounds great, not because he did so much of it himself. Music is a product of a great many elements, and whether those elements all happen to be in the same band or not is about as relevent as forks. >Q. Lastly, I'm after a general feeling about how L42 fans rate "The Pursuit of >Accidents" album. When I first listened to it I was really disappointed, but >recently (8 yrs after my first listen) I have been getting right into it. I >don't believe music has to be fashionable but I think this album would be >pretty popular in Australia right now with the right marketing and image. Its >funny how the fickle tastes of the world come full circle. This album is very, >very different to anything else I have ever heard. My general feeling is that it's a weak album with sublime moments, there are a couple of marvellous songs & some great instrumental ideas, but the track POA is like 43 without a sense of direction, and the album POA is similarly cursed, even down to the apalling band photo on the back, it covers similar ground to their first two fantastic albums, but without the same freshness, a quality they regained when they broke into a new area with Standing In The Light. Not a bad album then, just a bit of a stopgap thats all. >Amazon.com lists a VHS video from 1989 called "Pink Foyd [sic] Live At >Pompeii", Starring Level 42 and others. I have this & can catagorically state that L42 aren't in it & amazon are talking balls > On a Pino Palladino bassist-related subject, I was wondering who >knows all that he's played on? A few that come to my mind are: Mr. >Holland's Opus Soundtrack, Manu Katche- It's About Time, Tears for >Fears- The Seeds of Love, Don Henley- End of The Innocence, Julia >Fordham- Swept (and) Porcelain, Duncan Sheik- Self titled, Seal- second >album, and maybe a couple by Paul Young and Joni Mitchell. Anything >else??? Mike Lindup - Changes springs to mind! I see lots of ref to Donald Fagen, could any fans recommend to me what I should check out. love - bill P.S. I like Toto P.P.S. what does PSB rock mean? -- Bill Burnett ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V99 #15 From: Nightfly83 @ aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 20:14:44 EST I'm sorry if I am becoming increasingly bovine in response to the red rag that is the Digest; but it does seem as if every day there is a whole new bunch of picadors waiting to spike me. For example > Subject: 80's Club in London > From: Kay Anthony > > With so many of you evidently into artists such as Gary Numan > Simple Minds, Pet Shop Boys etc. as well as L42, I reckon you > should check out an 80s club called Electric Dreams which > happens every Monday at Gossips Club, Dean Street in London. Notwithstanding the fact that any English person of any taste avoids London with a zealous passion, I'm sure our friends in Canada, Mexico and Japan will be haring off to their travel agents as soon as they open on Monday. And > Subject: a few easy questions > From: "Joy Gerardi" > > P.S. Not to offend anyones taste but I have to agree with those who say > that "Guaranteed" is the least favorite and PSB rock. PSB "rock"? I can take or leave Pet Shop Boys (generally take the stuff with the stunning Richard Niles arrangements, leave the rest) but surely one thing they could never be described as doing is rocking. Although their cover of Bring Your Daughter To The Slaughter was fairly boisterous. And > Subject: Soundalikes... > From: "John O'Connell" > > Can't help but mention the band "Hue and Cry" the brothers Greogory and Patrick > Kane. > They did some superb albums and were accused of sounding like L42. Excellent > vocals but couldn't come near mark/Mike. I really don't know how to respond to this. Happy as I am to see mention of this splendid Scottish duo, the notion that Pat Kane's vocals "couldn't come near Mark/Mike" is bizarre in the extreme. This guy has one of the most soulful voices to grace music in the last two decades. I like the vocals on Level 42 records well enough (I do like Level 42, honest), but there was never anything that could send a shiver down you like the live version of 'Remote' from 'Bitter Suite'. > Check out the following cd's: > Labours of love - best of > Piano and Voice > Seduced and Abandoned > Truth and love > Remote How could you include the dog of an album Truth & Love (Hue & Cry's very own Guaranteed), and omit Stars Crash Down, the sublime Showtime (tapes to anyone who wants them - this is an album that must be heard) and the recent adventurousness of Jazznotjazz? Music is indeed a funny old game. And > Subject: Next single, musci "legends" > From: "Andre Huijts" > > Cliff wrote: > > >Now I know we're all big fans of this little group from the Isle of Wight, > but even I wouldn't > >put Boon (or Mark for that matter) in the same sentence with John Lennon > (or > >Stevie Wonder, Sting, David Bowie, Bob Marley or potentially hundreds of > >other music "legends"). > > You're right, I wouldn't do that either. > None of those so-called-legends can come close to the Level 42 guys..... > (Well, Stevie came pretty close, in his "early" days that is...oh no here we > go again !)) I don't want to get on Andre's back again, and I know his tongue is somewhere near his cheek, but even so...The suggestion that early Stevie Wonder "came pretty close" to Level 42 is the funniest thing I've read since…well, since the guy who rated Michael Jackson above Frank Sinatra, actually. Forget the fact that Stevie has done nothing of merit for 20 years - you can put the entire output of Level 42 together in a pretty parcel with a gold bow and it doesn't even approach 'Songs In The Key Of Life' (let alone the four albums that preceded it.) Fortunately at this point it all goes rather odd… > Subject: Re: Thermometers > From: Brian > > Damn, sorry about that. I clicked on the wrong list. Not the first time I've > done that either. 10 mailing lists tend to get me in a little bit of a hurry > sometimes. Fear not Brian, your brief dissertation on thermometers was one of the more readable elements of recent Digests. > Subject: Pino > From: "Allwyn & Laura Kelly" > > Pino Palladino.............................hhmmm would you believe that was > my maiden name?? > Pino..............Laura Pino. Of course we would Laura. And my real name is Andrew Alembic. > ok, Im leaving Some would contend a sizeable part of her left long ago. Anyway, no sooner had she gone than… > Subject: Hi! I'm a new subscriber... > From: LavaD @ aol.com > > Hi! My name is Laura ---I surfed onto the Level 42 website recently and was > really happy to find it! I re-discovered Level 42 over the summer and have > fast become an addict. I am a musician (I play saxophone and I am a composer) > and I live in New York City. I must confess, have to listen to Level 42 every > day or I get in a really bad mood. Go figure???!!!! Most of my friends have > very different musical tastes than myself, so I'm happy to find a bunch of > people that I have something in common with---Thanks!---Laura Dreyer Oh, it's Laura 'Dreyer' now, is it? And I imagine your maiden name was Laura Palladino? AG PS Serious hat going on now. If anyone happens to see any online obituaries for Michel Petrucciani, I'd appreciate it if you could let me know. Thanks. Always leave them smiling...