From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest) Subject: Level42 Digest V99 #105 _ ____ _ ____ _ _ ___ // //__ // / //__ // /__// __// //__ //__ \\_/ //__ //__ // /__ D I G E S T Level42 Digest Volume 99 : Issue 105 1059 subscribers Today's topics: Mark Walsham Points of view... Kay Anthony Vote for Love games clip !!! Henri.Blakenburg Vote for Love games clip Henri.Blakenburg It's time to turn the gas on ! Rikmg88 We Swan't you back EMIKATIE Re: recent sad loss Steve Robson Oooo, someone remembers Pat Flanagan Re: Forever Now's lack of commercial success Matthew Lamb Mike, Guaranteed, and Bill Wilson mark mohr More on OM DonZipf Wally World alex.friesen Re: Thought out posts KNAPPT Re: Level42 Digest V99 #103 Andre Huijts Re: Level42 Digest V99 #103 Andre Huijts "I'm gonna rant and rave. I'm gonna lose contro>> Gaetan Duperron FN etc. Nigel Collier Re: [ILF] MARK KING GIGS + NEW ASHDOWN COMBO !!! Bilal42 Forever Now, L42 reunion, Mike Joy Gerardi Re: [ILF] MARK KING GIGS + NEW ASHDOWN COMBO !!! Adam Hankinson Aging Artists...could it happen to L42? Dan Nesselroth AGs message Meijer, Arjan Nightfly ElSavannah A Mark Lookalike from history Marcus Bone ------------------------------ Subject: From: "Mark Walsham" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:25:30 GMT "Chris M raises some good points in discussing why people slag off the later albums (Chris, are you trying to promote an "Ogre Battle" on the Digest??) (Shameless, Queen II reference :-)). I, myself, am an "early album snob" Watch out, you'll have the wrath of the 'Black Queen' on you if you keep up this shameless Queen II quotes (:D) Now it's time to be gone... Forever? Rgds, Mark. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: Points of view... From: Kay Anthony Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:33:48 +0100 In response to the latest digest: >...."why don't they just go away", and a suspicion of milking it on old laurels. On the other hand, the lack of up and coming new artists is the perfect breeding ground for 80's reunions. Tell me about it !! - should I start a new debate about whether the Level 42 of the 80s was better than the 90s ?????!!!!!!! >....can anyone take bands that have had various and multiple line up changes over the years seriously? Look at the Human League, they survived after two founder members went to Heaven 17. They even toured with Culture Club at the end of last year and never sounded better. They went down very well with the crowd. >Mark has done well to move forward out of the shadow of L42 (whilst utilising the L42 branding to his advantage) to new areas. Well observed. Maybe Mike Lindup could use this to his advantage too?? > What I question is the lyrical/cheesy content. We all know that Polydor and RCA wanted to mould the band into a different form, and that would of course had an effect on the music. I am not writing off the later stuff, but merely saying that I think it is not as strong as the earlier stuff. I couldn't agree more ! Record companies have a lot to answer for - for example even in recent times, Mark's continuing arrangement with Eagle Records after One Man has been cast in some doubt ( from the words of the man himself ) as to whether he will do another album with them. Did you know that Gary Numan is also on the Eagle label - yes ! - he too is still around and surviving. Maybe Eagle has at least some foresight to have 80's artists on their books as opposed to other major labels. At the end of the day the record company bosses pull the strings - a fact of life, - unless of course you are Madonna - she started her own label as a way around it ! >Re: Forever Now: "The Gould influences are lacking, and that is that." ......But didn't Phil play drums on Forever Now or am I mistaken ?? >My opinion about Forever Now is that it was their best album EVER. Ok, so there are those of you who stick by FN, and I can respect you for that , but are you honestly going to tell me that the only reason the singles didn't chart so highly is because of lack of promotion. Did RITF only do so well because of good promotion? I think not. I don't disagree however that they poorly promoted FN at any rate. Just to put the record straight, for those who thought I criticised the SOUND quality - my reference was in fact quality in terms of the strength of the tracks themselves, and NOT the sound reproduction !! Finally, had anyone out there considered the implications of downloadable music on the Internet taking over music production totally ? It opens up the old music debate as it did when people thought CDs would take over from vinyl. To a greater part they did, however Dj's still play vinyl today, so that has lasted. However, what about downloadable music taking over CDs etc. What would be the implications for King & co ? Maybe it would work to their advantage as independent labels could have a lot more influence on the web..... Anthony ------------------------------ Subject: Vote for Love games clip !!! From: Henri.Blakenburg @ DUT.RWS.minvenw.nl Date: 15 Apr 1999 14:24:24 +0200 Hi all, You can see the famous LG clip from the Dutch program Top pop.But you all got to vote for it !! Check out: http://www.omroep.nl/avro Than choose: popworks Than Lust for live Than Memorabele momenten And than choose Level 42 with Love Games !!!! There are more groups you can vote on, but we know where to vote on, don't we. But they will show only the clip where the most votes are on, and it will be shown on this web page next week, SO VOTE NOW !!!! Greetings from Holland Henri ------------------------------ Subject: Vote for Love games clip From: Henri.Blakenburg @ DUT.RWS.minvenw.nl Date: 15 Apr 1999 14:34:01 +0200 Sorry, you most not choose for: memorable momenten, but for: video vote Gonna vote again !! Henri ------------------------------ Subject: It's time to turn the gas on ! From: Rikmg88 @ aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:55:28 EDT Been chatting to Jakko yesterday about 64 spoons and stuff,he wanted to know if any of us levelheads would be interested in any of the 64 spoons stuff !!!! They are probably doing a one off show a spectacular theatrical show !!! We talked about the influences of the band in the days of punk and how they adapted to a punk audience. Would level 42 have been punks ? (o.k. stop laughin) I think so had the timing been different a punk sort of Jazz !!! I seem to remember Mark saying omething about this somewhere in the vaults of time....... Paul Waller if you read this I have misplaced it somewhere amongst all the fan club stuff........I have some more material for you so get back to me with that please...... Can't wait for Mark's next album,more bass orintated that's what we wanted isn't it ? Show us your thumb !!! that's what I say. For info about the brand new mark king fan club e-mail privately please......Mark did you get Jakko's message ? Christien your video is completed "bitter moon" send this week !!! Hey and don't forget word machine 3 out soon .great stuff !!!!!!!! Have too disagree with some of you about the lyrics and writing on one man !!!! lyrics have never been stronger !!!! excellent job by boon , "cold sun in a wet rocky sky,a broken beach where waves come to die" ooh what vividness !!! Bye for now. Richard Graham Fan Club Secretary ------------------------------ Subject: We Swan't you back From: EMIKATIE @ aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:58:00 EDT It finally happened. Nightfly83 / AG / Andrew Goodwin states: >In a gesture of pique, which will doubtless cause emotive scenes of delirium >across the four corners of the cyberglobe, I am unsubscribing from the >Digest. Now why did you have to go and do something silly like that? >Bit of a shame really, as I was stockpiling a nice line in Kurtis >Kegley jokes. Hey AG, email me privately with those ;-) > The motivation for this is the following which I received this morning: > "Quit filling up the digest with your quote/reply nonsense crap. No one > wants to read it." Oy vay, how can one personal email cause you to take such drastic measures? I love your posts and know many others that get a chuckle from you daily meanderings. Scrolling past your posts is the solution for those who dislike your words. I might say the same thing about the G or G# or G flat issue. My solution is to "just - scroll - down." Unless these words came from the digest "elders" or Eric H. I see no reason to heed them. (is Eric H. a digest "elder"? I know I'm an elder, but not a "digest elder", I can't put the quote marks around elder when referring to myself, but someday I hope to be able to, actually, I'm a bit self-conscious about that issue, so please don't hesitate to give me some direction in that regard or just tell me to pipe down immediately.) >I don't mind any kind of abuse in the public hurly-burly of the Digest, but >having this stuff land in my personal inbox I can live without. Sort of like the Melissa virus ;-0 >To those of you who like your Digest entries to be more colourful than >prosaic, I commend the surreal sarcasm of Alex Friesen, the wry whimsy of >EMIKATIE, the becalming insight of Cliff Barua, the pithy one-liners of Bill >Burnett (whose recent Early Learning Centre pay-off was one of the Digest's >1999 highlights), the feverish imagination of ERICWHE01, the graceful >erudition of Gaetan Duperron, and I'm sure others whose names escape me and >to whom I apologise for the omission. I'm insulted Andrew. I thought I was the erudite one, as well as a bit surrealistically sarcastic. But to be perfectly honest, I was hoping to become wryly whimsical in the near future. OK, now for the meat and potatoes. Time to vote on whether to start impeachment proceedings agains Nightfly83. I'm sure with enough votes we can keep him seated. I vote for an apology from the heckler, and for Andrew to remain a digester. And now, here's the real reason for my post... plantar faciitis.........websearch.................heelspurs.com..............Birkenst ock sandals..................size.....................42 The wry machine stops, John ps: See Andrew, if you unsubscribe, you're going to miss these kinds of posts. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: recent sad loss From: Steve Robson Organization: Cadence Design Systems Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:07:21 +0100 To the person who stooped lower than Willie Carson's jock-strap I say "I hope you're happy now". What a low-life. AG's posts were never personal, never any of the other things that the majority of other posts usually are and over which I skip. The digest is now even more hollow. Steve UNIX admin MITS Europe e-mail: srobson @ cadence.com Cadence Design Systems Tel: +44 (0)1344 866523 or +44 (0)7771 941264 Bagshot Road Fax: +44 (0)1344 869329 Bracknell BERKSHIRE Web: http://www.cadence.com RG12 0PH UK ------------------------------ Subject: Oooo, someone remembers From: Pat Flanagan Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:31:04 -0500 >Pat Flanagan - The Kick Or The Kiss ;-) I'm guessing from the soundfile of my Boon imitation that I posted ages ago (which has since been purged -- and for good reason). Actually, I'd rather sing Head Full Of Shadows, since I think it's got some goofy lyrics. I'd be very faithful to Boon's drunken style of singing on that song. ____________________ PFPD -- newmedia marketing consulting a limited liability company PO Box 281, Granger, IN 46530-0281 v:616.663.2250 -- competitive business advantages through creative technology ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Forever Now's lack of commercial success From: "Matthew Lamb" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:50:07 +0100 Hi there, fellow 42'ers, I want to throw in my opinion on the 'Forever Now' debate. On reading Laurence Green's comments that he was surprised at the lack of success of 'Forever Now', I have to disagree that the album could have been a success (commercially). Yes the album was brilliant, and few bands could produce such a quality album these days...But I feel strongly that that album was for the fans. Apart from the title track (the only potentially commercial track on the album, in my opinion), the rest of the tracks can only be enjoyed by those who have 'acquired the taste' of Level 42's sound. It's a very distinctive sound, and can't really be classed with any other kind of music in the '90s. Level 42 are unique. For a start, L42's sound doesn't appeal to youngsters (they prefer the teeny-boppy tunes of 'The Spice Girls', and so on). That rules out a large chunk of the buying public for a start. Also, the band don't have an outrageous image (weird haircuts, body piercings, way out clothes, and so on). No...I believe that L42 (particularly Mark & Mike) play the music they want to play, and to hell with the commercial side of things. Maybe I'm wrong, but that is the impression I have gotten over the years, since I first became a fan (1985) This is my first offering to the digest. Just thought I put the cat amongst the pigeons! Retaliations welcomed. :-( Matt L. ------------------------------ Subject: Mike, Guaranteed, and Bill Wilson From: mark mohr Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:40:21 -0700 First, many thanks to Bill Wilson near Seattle, Washington for making the Mark King T-shirt happen. Thanks, Bill! Also, would everybody please take lots of pictures at Mike's shows in May and make sure they get the same recognition on our various websites, newsletters, etc. as all the Mark King stuff got? Any chance of asking Mike's permission to record his concert and then putting snippets online? Anybody know if Mike has a new CD coming out anytime soon? Finally, put me in the plus column for Guaranteed. I also like most (but not all) of the material on Forever Now. So There! Mark Mohr ------------------------------ Subject: More on OM From: DonZipf @ aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:43:52 EDT > Don Z, gotta agree with you on your points regarding Forever Now, the bands > evolution, and Guaranteed. have to disagree regarding One Man. Where I > feel it would not be considered a 'great' Level 42 album, I wont go so far as > to say the songs are not well written. :-) I just don't think that Boon was the best choice of lyricist for One Man. There are many Level 42 songs which "speak" to me, but none of the songs on OM do. There just isn't any song on the album which I consider a great, well-written pop song (a la SAY, LIL, CS, etc.). And I'm not talking about musical style (I like the music on OM); I just don't think enough thought was put into the lyric content. My opinion has always been - and I know there are those of you who agree - that Level 42's weakness was lyrics. They needed the assistance of an outside poet - sort of a Wally Badarou for words. Not that Boon & Phil didn't write a few good ones, but by the time they got good at it, they quit the band. And Boon seems to have lost the touch on One Man. Peace - Z. ------------------------------ Subject: Wally World From: alex.friesen @ sickkids.on.ca Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:47:21 -0400 Boy howdy! Surprise surprise! A quick perusal of the liner notes for Jean Luc Ponty's 1991 _Tchokola_ album revealed the following: "With my deepest gratitude to...Wally Badarou for connecting me in Paris with the wonderful West African musicians..." Who'd a thunk it? I suppose that connects the lads to Stanley Clarke etc. L42 <--> Wally Wally <--> Jean Luc Ponty JLP <--> Stanley Clarke on _Rites of Strings_, _East River Drive_, and probably others. ************* Okay, so now that AG's gone, we can all dis him, right? How's this: That little dweeb. No sense of humour at all. And couldn't spell neither. ...Alex... "til I saw you in pieces" ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Thought out posts From: KNAPPT @ ldcorp.com (KNAPPT) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:16:14 -0400 sorry, I guess I misspoke (wrote) what I meant was lets see more in the way of descriptive analysis of why a digester likes or dislikes a track or album. And only for the purpose of a more insightful retort! I honestly wasn't responding to an individual post but at the trend to say " that XXX album really sucks" without saying why that is the writers opinion. Some have had extremely insightful responses (for example, the digester who responded to my "hell" choice of RunITF which was very insightful!), I just don't understand the maligning of Guaranteed and Forever now ! So I was trying to get some who feel these albums are bad to explain why so that I might get their opinion as to why! Hope I have clarified my view! This is only my opinion and in no way claims to express the views of the digest or its management. Opposing viewpoints are welcome! :-) Theron ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Thought out posts Author: gregory.jamate @ bellatlantic.COM at INTERNET Date: 4/15/99 1:14 PM Hi KNAPPT, While I agree with you on the excellent sound quality of FN, I have to disagree with your idea that the discussions have lacked depth. My initial post on FN, and some of the responses, even those disputing my original summation were well thought out, and not knee-jerk reactions. My initial post came about after lots of reflection about the motivations for making Forever Now. Greg J While I respect all the opinions back and forth about the different albums, I think we would all be much more stimulated by some depth in this reguard. For example, Personally, I think that while One Man is a good album, It is not level 42 quality as the sound is bad (distorted) on several tracks, and it lacks the high quality production of their other albumns(except maybe the early tapes). Theronk @ netscape.net ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V99 #103 From: "Andre Huijts" Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:48:35 +0200 Re. LOZ' comments on Forever Now: I 1000% agree with you. Couldn't have said it better. Funny you mention FN playing in the summer. I think it's the perfect summer album. I don't know why, just a feeling. I tend to listen to it less in the winter. And indeed the car is an exellent place to listen to it. FN is definitly my favorite album. It has all the great things of the past combined with all the guys learned through the years. And how about this almost insane attention to details and production ? And maybe the most important thing: Phil was back. It must have taken hours and hours and hours of hard work to create an album like that. I can see why they must have been so disappointed that it didn't do so well. If I were only allowed to take one album to a deserted island, it would be FN (Japanese RCA version, although I would miss the extra tracks on the Resurgence version). Groetjes, Andre ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V99 #103 From: "Andre Huijts" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:19:46 +0200 Charl wrote: >Obviously, we all would love Level 42 to form again... but will they? I >mean, Mark is getting old (aren't we all...), Is this a criterium wether one makes good music or not ? And please define old for me. May I remind you of Tina Turner, The Rolling Stones and The Golden Earring ? Still going strong, even they could have been my mums and dads. And Mark is only 40 ! But there's one thing happening you must remember: It's just "not done" to like music of "former" popstars. Can anybody tell me what hits the BeeGees had with their latest album ? I remember it got some quite good reviews, but "the mass" just doesn't buy these records anymore. I hear Toto has released a new single. I bet it won't be a hit, even though it's a nice song. Remember that singles tend to be bought by extremely young people (let's say it: children) these days. And what they like is obvious. 5 pretty faces in a row, preferably with no talent in music or even singing sometimes. We must accept that the Level 42 guys are history in that sense. The only thing they can do now is let out all of their creativity, not hindered by "having to make another hitsingle" and make their music just like they want it to sound. I am sure some very good stuff is in the pipeline ! >And will Level 42 fit in with the (mostly) crappy music we hear today? No. Of course not. Should it ? I think Mark realises he/Level 42 will never be as popular as they were in the 80's. That doesn't mean he/they should stop making terrific music. To be honest, I don't really care about them/him getting big hits again, I much prefer to hear good new music (like OM) ! >Also, who owns the L42 label now? If Mark wants to form L42 again, >must he get consent from Mike? Will Paul Crockford still be manager? From what I've read on the digest, Mark wanted to keep the Level 42 name, but Mike didn't let him. This explains "Level 42's Mark King". Boon and Phil seem to have been "bought out" and they have nothing to say over the Level 42 name or old stuff. > >It would be a very happy day (for us as fans!!) should L42 form again. >But I think that their music will be very different then, even when only >Mark & Mike are involved. You are probably right. I can see Mark and Mike working again in the future, but sure the music will be very different then. We don't need a copy of SITL,TC or FN do we ? I think that was one of the main points what kept me fan through the years. While maintaining their own distinctive sound, L42 never made an album that sounded like the one before. This includes the "danger" that you will have some more and some less favorite albums. Good artists always seek for new ways of doing things, creating something new. The L42 guys are damn good artists Groetjes, Andre ------------------------------ Subject: "I'm gonna rant and rave. I'm gonna lose control..." From: "Gaetan Duperron" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:16:59 PDT What I'm about to say is neither graceful, nor erudite. Sorry AG! Whoever wrote that to Andrew is full of shit. I HATE people who take it upon themselves to speak for everybody else. "Nobody wants to read it"?! I did!!! It's a helluva lot better than most of the drivel that gets posted here. Whoever you are, I'm not like you and I'm glad, you small, ignorant, "my favourite Level 42 track is..." loser. Grow up. Get a real life instead of going around telling others what to think and say. Don't have a nice day. You really don't deserve one. G "I'm gonna scream and shout. I'm going to stamp my feet..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: FN etc. From: Nigel Collier Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:34:17 +0100 Just adding my voice to the chant about FN etc. I seem to be in agreement with the general consensus of the Digest: I didn't like SATS or Guaranteed so much - but I _liked_ Forever Now. However, I _LOVED_ Forever Now on Resurgence - it is one of my fave albums. I too was originally hooked by Something About You but the first tape I bought was RITF in '87. Obviously I liked RITF enough to buy the album without knowing too much about the band but looking back now with my massive knowledge and experience of the band's work ;-) - though I still like RITF very much it was clearly displaying the underlying signs of where the band were likely to go later - i.e. SATS and Guaranteed. So I suppose I got into Level 42 in reverse: I started with RITF and worked backwards - and every 'new' old album I bought I thought, "they just get better" - of course that meant they were actually getting 'worse' (my subjective opinion). Hence I ignored SATS, Guaranteed and FN when they were released. This Digest was completely responsible for kindling my interest in the band's later albums - and in my view they have much to commend them. Oh - but I really don't care much for Gresham Blues - dreary, meandering dirge. Regards Nigel =============================================== "my theory that the majority is ALWAYS wrong shines brightly", Joe Parrington ------------------------------ Subject: Re: [ILF] MARK KING GIGS + NEW ASHDOWN COMBO !!! From: Bilal42 @ aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:30:36 EDT In a message dated 14/04/99 17:47:50 GMT Daylight Time, djames @ serv.net writes: << > Mark is also playing at Ronnie Scotts in November and two gigs at Mad > About Music > Music show in Birmingham in November as well. Okay, you say November but do you know when? Bilal had suggested late October for the next Britfest which even though six months from now, I'm already excited about. However if we can get some confirmed dates in the next few months then certainly we will postpone until then. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> OK, lets aim to coincide the almighty Britfest with Mark's shows ... LETS PARTEEEEE! Bilal ------------------------------ Subject: Forever Now, L42 reunion, Mike From: "Joy Gerardi" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:45:05 PDT Ahh yes, back from vacation and back to school that means catching up on missed digests. Whats all this Forever Now bashing? I think its probably the second best they made. How can you not love Romance, Sunbed Song, and Learn to Say No, a favorite of mine. I did not even know the boys existed when Forever Now was released so I cannot even guess the motivations, but to me it souds as though a great deal of effort was made. A truly great CD. I personally would love more than anything a L42 reunion. I was never fortunate enough to see them in concert. I think that even if a joint effort was not commercially successful and new material was'nt released who's to say they could'nt just have a concert and play old stuff (does that sound crazy)?? JUST PLEASE COME TO NY!! And finally, long hair, short hair, whatever. Any way you dress him up Mike L is a fabulous babe. I swear he has a clone at my colleges gym. Needless to say I always conveniently choose the nearest treadmill ; ) Ciao baby, Joy Heaven: Children Say Hell: Guaranteed. All of it w/the exception of Set Me Up and the song Guaranteed. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Subject: Re: [ILF] MARK KING GIGS + NEW ASHDOWN COMBO !!! From: "Adam Hankinson" Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:52:35 +0100 > >OK, lets aim to coincide the almighty Britfest with Mark's shows ... LETS >PARTEEEEE! > >Bilal Okey dokey..... Just wanted to say "have a safe trip Bilal" Aren't you off this weekend? Have a good one Adz ------------------------------ Subject: Aging Artists...could it happen to L42? From: "Dan Nesselroth" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:30:09 PDT I know the boys are far from what we might call 'spring chickens', but I thank the patron Saint of Level 42 for preventing them from going down the road that so many once-great artists travel down to die. Billy Joel was always a favorite of mine....brilliant stuff. And suddenly 45 comes up on him and he begins to write musical garbage about his daughter, or his generation, or some other mid-life spirituality pap. Paul McCartney began to sing only about his wife and kids and I think that since he hit 55 he has almost COMPLETELY drained the well that was once the Beatle engine (thats a mixed metaphor). Bryan Adams was Canada's most energetic artists when he was in his 20's. Now he churns out sappy romance ballads that would put a catatonic statue to sleep. Same for Chicago...except the Canada part. They have been stuck in the mid life love ballad thing since 83. Thank you L42, for refusing to sing about how great the 60's...okay, the 70's...were and how your children lift your spirits blah blah blah. I would have stopped giving you guys money after Running In The Family if you had gone down that road. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Subject: AGs message From: "Meijer, Arjan" Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:58:38 +0200 I think the digest will be cluttered with "AG don't go"-messages, so I'll keep this one short. I just don't get it why there are people out there who think it's necessary to keep spreading negativism (sp?). It's just like the situation where someone who put a lot of hard work in the L42 re-releases was slaughtered for selfishness. (sorry, forgot the complete story). All that stuff is completely contra-productive. To me, AG's postings are something I look forward to every Digest. Having mailed him personally, I can see his motivation to take a (temporary??!!) break. I just hope that we can stop attacking eachothers opinions. Discussing them is OK, not-agreeing is OK and skipping posts is fine too. It's just a shame that some people sometimes feel the need to put a shadow on the positive atmosphere of the Digest. Arjan ------------------------------ Subject: Nightfly From: ElSavannah @ aol.com Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:04:15 EDT It's Early I know for this but I have to say this. To the 'person' who sent an unsolicited e mail to nightfly about his postings: Congratulations, you have succeeded in making one of the most amusing contributers to this digest sign off for good. This digest is a free forum for people to air their views and thoughts on all things Level and to have a go at someone who is commenting about things already written as AG does it plain childish. Most people find the guys postings highly amusing and funny and those that don't just scroll down. Besides, if Eric thought the postings were too much I am sure he would not let them be on the digest in the first place. Whoever you are, I hope you are happy with yourself and now have the ideal digest that you want. You obviuosly take this digest far too seriously and have nothing else in your life other than Level 42 which is quite worrying. I just hope that AG goes and licks his wounds has a think and comes back after a rest with even bigger better postings to put a smile onto our faces. In times of non band activity, we need these postings to keep us going. anyway, I've said my piece and if I have upset the responsible person well I am sorry everyone but to him i say tough - you deserve all you get. Lisa 'Mrs Pink' ------------------------------ Subject: A Mark Lookalike from history From: Marcus Bone Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:23:18 +0100 Hi all, Just remembered a documentary on early aviators on TV (can't remember what this series was called - but it was on BBC2 about a year ago and it was really good) anyway this one was about Manfred von Richtofen aka The Red Baron - I nearly dropped me ovaltine when I saw a picture of him - spitting image of you know who. Interestingly when he was shot down he was buried with full British military honours. Anyway to jump on a bandwagon long since past Heaven: Good man in a Storm Hell : Set me Up Worst possible Cover : Forever Now by the James Last orchestra (think about it) Later everyone -- Marcus Bone Turnpike evaluation. For information, see http://www.turnpike.com/