From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest) Subject: Level42 Digest V98 #67 _ ____ _ ____ _ _ ___ // //__ // / //__ // /__// __// //__ //__ \\_/ //__ //__ // /__ D I G E S T Level42 Digest Volume 98 : Issue 67 562 subscribers Today's topics: Re: Level42 Digest V98 #66 ReeseTee1 re: Mark King news Bilal42 Music for Sale J Shuford Good man in a storm Mark J Tweedale Good Man In A Storm, and Lying Still Brad Dietz ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Level42 Digest V98 #66 From: ReeseTee1 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:29:27 EST A lot of times they double the vocal track (with the same voice and knock it out of phase). Or leave the lead vocal track dry and chorus, reverb knock out of phase (the doubled lead vocal track). It can be done many ways. Reese ------------------------------ Subject: re: Mark King news From: Bilal42 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:22:24 EST Winston - Thanks for the news about Mark King's forthcoming album. Lets all wish him the best, I am sure that somehow they are kept in touch with activity on the digest. For that matter, if they are in touch, may I send my regards to all the other geniuses who have ever been in Level 42! Rockpalast 2: WOW WOW WOW! Simply amazing, you must all try to get a copy. Seeing them play tracks like '43' and 'Are you hearing' was amazing. I couldnt blink throughout the show! Where can I see the 'Veronica' show? PLEASE COME BACK LEVEL 42!!! Bilal do you love your bass? ------------------------------ Subject: Music for Sale From: J Shuford Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:35:30 -0800 (PST) I have a bunch of CDs I am looking to sell, and I thought the Digest might be the best place to start because so many of us share musical tastes. Here we go: JAMIROQUAI -- The Return of the Space Cowboy -- Travelling without Moving SWING OUT SISTER -- It's Better to Travel -- Kaleidoscope World -- Swing3 (Japanese remix and b-sides album) -- Shapes and Patterns -- notgonnachange (CD Maxi single) INCOGNITO -- Remixed LIVING IN A BOX -- Living in a Box MR MISTER -- Go On GO WEST -- Go West GEORGE MICHAEL w/ QUEEN -- Five Live SEAL -- Seal ROBERT PALMER -- Riptide SIMPLE MINDS -- Glittering Prize DURAN DURAN -- Duran Duran (the second one) -- Decade -- Big Thing VARIOUS ARTISTS -- Prince's Trust 10th Anniversary Birthday (with Level 42 "Something about You") I haven't yet set a price for these items. I'm thinking $7 apiece with some sort of discount for multiple purchases. Also, if you buy more than 3 of these, I'll pick up the cost of packaging and shipping. Please e-mail me by Wednesday of this week if you are interested. I will get back to the people who make the best offers. Thanks, Shuf John Shuford Department of Philosophy University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1295 (541) 346-1054 shuf @ darkwing.uoregon.edu ------------------------------ Subject: Good man in a storm From: "The Bassman (Mark J Tweedale)" Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 22:03:05 -0000 Greetings guys and gals. It's been an age since I last added to this digest. I've lurked for far too long. To kick things off again I've been having a look at the vocal line "We're making perfect sense of life, but still remain so far apart". I agree that there is mixing going on, however feeding that bit through my PC and messing around with the pitch of various bits of it leads me to conclude that it is likely to be all Mark's vocals. As I see it there are basically 3 parts to this line. The start is recorded through a pitch shifter (eg eventide harmonizer or similar) and is 2 to 3 semitones higher than Mark's normal pitch, hence the thinner sounding voice (almost female). The credits do not state any female vocalists! This is mixed into the middle section of the line which is Mark's normal pitch. The end 2 to 3 notes are again put through a shifter, but this time downwards leading to the thicker/richer sound. To make the pitch shifted parts sound like Mark's voice again just add 2 to 3 semitones of opposite shift. Naturally, it sends the song out of key, but it's Mark alright. The mixing between the 3 bits is very smooth. The World Machine album is very slick on the production / mixing front altogether. It's an absolute joy to listen to on my recently obtained Meridian M2 active speakers!!! Now then, International Levelfest......... has anything been decided? I'm definitely interested. Might well have to check the archive for things I've missed. It's good to be back. TCOY, Mark. ---------------------------------------------- Mark J Tweedale MEng MAES AMIEE - AKA The Bassman Bass, Level 42 and electronics nutcase mark @ bassland.force9.co.uk http://www.bassland.force9.co.uk/ ---------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: Good Man In A Storm, and Lying Still From: Brad Dietz Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:15:52 -0500 Hello Levelpeople, Here's my analysis of the vocal line starting at 2:39... may be right, may be wrong, but... I think the "first" singer is Annie McCaig- not Mike. This is strange seeing as how she's not listed in the album credits, but the vocal texture is definately female, and Annie gets my vote there. She sings the "A", "G#", "F#", and "E" by herself, then shares the unison note- "C#" with Mike, at which point he takes over. Mike sings the "D", and "B", and shares the unison note- "G#" with Mark, at which point takes over. Mark sings the "E", "F#" and the rest except for the last two notes of the sequence where it is my opinion that Wally Badarou gets these last two- with there being no shared unison note between Mark and Wally- as you can tell an abrupt change in texture of voice. I think it is Wally singing the last two, because I know Mark can sing those lover notes, and he doesn't sound like that down there (I think). Besides Wally is listed in the credits for vocals as well as keys... If my analysis was hard to follow. I appologise about sounding like a music nerd, but some Level 42 things can't be discussed without getting into the music terminology... Ahhh, The limitations of e-mail- I wish I could have just written it out in music notation, and done a digram or something to be less confusing. While we're on the World Machine topic, I absolutely HATE that part on Lying Still at 2:50, where they guys revert back to the early eighties jazz fusion-y sound. I don't think it fits with the song at all. Sounds like two totally different tunes. I would vote for Lying Still for my all time favorite Level 42 song, but that section gets me every time, and ruins the "atmosphere". Damn! Gotta love those reverby vocal and drums- to me, the highlight of the song. Did any of you notice how at 4:16, the reverb on the snare cuts off for one hit??? Mark starts to sing "Still in your arms..." there, but it's still audible underneath. It makes me wonder how or why that happened. If only I could ask Phil... That's my five cents, talk to ya'll later... Take Care Brad