From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest) Subject: Level42 Digest V96 #319 _ ____ _ ____ _ _ ___ // //__ // / //__ // /__// __// //__ //__ \\_/ //__ //__ // /__ D I G E S T Level42 Digest Volume 96 : Issue 319 460 subscribers Today's topics: Nigel Collier L42 stickers Funk Geek P.G. and Red Rain rl moore bass player again... T. H. Park Mike on Tomorrow's World The Bassman OKC Level Fest WINSTON WALKER tv shows / cd problem Mighty Maomoondog What's That Bass ??/Sade Jason Bell Good Vibes, etc. WLonote My first posting... S. Reboulet ------------------------------ Subject: From: Nigel.Collier @ ncl.ac.uk (Nigel Collier) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:46:17 +0000 Non-level comedy thread (apologies): > personally the most impressive thing Geddy Lee ever > did was to guest on Bob & Doug McKenzie's "Take Off" Bob & Doug McKenzie (Rick Moranis and Dave Thomas) are one of the stupidest, funniest double acts I've ever seen (forerunners to Dumb & Dumber...only even dumber!). Their movie 'Strange Brew' is one of my all time favourite films but there's absolutely NOTHING available by them in the UK. Can any other hosers out there please supply me with recordings, eh? (I'd love ANYTHING they've done - especially their album, 'The Great White North'). The Canadians have had some outstanding comedy talent recently, the late great John Candy being a good example -he'll be sadly missed. "May The Force Be With You, you hoser" ..."he saw Jedi 14 times eh?" Nigel (bereft of Bob & Doug material) "...friends from all over the world - none in this country but all over the world!" - Tony Hancock http://www.ncl.ac.uk/~nnac/ ------------------------------ Subject: L42 stickers From: Funk Geek Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:36:52 -0500 (EST) Hi, all. Hey, since I recently sold my old car, I lost the L42 sticker I had on the back. And now I'd like one for my new car. Anyone know if there's anymore out there? Thanks. -Rob ************************************************************************ Rob Kadel Department of Sociology Emory University Atlanta, GA 30322 (404)727-7510 http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~rkadel/ ------------------------------ Subject: P.G. and Red Rain From: rl moore Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:44:43 -0600 >> I bought Peter Gabriel's Us CD (Steam, Digging in the Dirt) specifically >> for Tony Levin's bass playing. He really adds something to the songs on >> that album. > If you don't have "Secret World Live", run out and get it! :) > The live version of Red Rain is far superior to the studio version, IMHO. > Shake that tree! I would also suggest, if you don't already have it, getting a video copy of P. Gabriel and the guys performing "Red Rain" on The Late Show with David Letterman awhile back. I was lucky enough to be taping the show that night (it was probably just over a year ago) and I have yet to see a musical guest top that performance, Incredible. A close second is Steely Dan performing Josie a few months later on Late Show, another great performance, (also have on tape). -Royal ------------------------------ Subject: bass player again... From: "T.H. Park" Organization: LG Electronics Central Research Lab. Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:39:50 -0500 Hello, Anybody mentioned Jonas Helbourg? I've seen him on tv a few years back, he does know how to slap and thump aswell as play some mean melodic lines. There's an album called Elegant Punk which is noteworthy for some scrutiny. BTW he looks weird though... Tae ------------------------------ Subject: Mike on Tomorrow's World From: The Bassman Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:19:10 -0500 Greetings folks. I apologise if this appears twice, or in consecutive digests, but I'm having problems getting mail from the York Uni mail server to the digest. [I had to forward this manually because you are not subscribed from this address... -Eric] OK, here goes...... I suppose the following message will mostly relate to the UK readers of the digest unless you are a US (or otherwise) die-hard!!!!! A friend has passed on some information to me which he received from the BBC when doing some research into his third year electronics project. It relates to the TV Science programme "Tomorrow's World" on 14/Feb/1991. Mike was being 'interviewed' about a new kind of keyboard instrument tutor by Howard Stableford. The article description reads as follows:- "An electronic keyboard, connected to a home computer which can teach you how to play the piano. The interactive keyboard uses velocity sensitive keys and assesses the players strengths and weaknesses, giving advice on the screen on how to improve. Mike Lindup from the band Level 42 demonstrates what a real musician can do with it." Duration 2mins50secs. Does anyone have a copy of this programme? As I have Spool and programme number details, does anyone know if it would be possible to get a copy out of the BBC??? Cheers, Mark. Mark Tweedale mjt101 @ tower.york.ac.uk http://www.york.ac.uk/~mjt101/ ________________________________________ / \ / @ @@@@ @ @ @@@@ @ @ @@@ \ / @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ \ | @ @@ @ @ @@ @ @ @ @ | \ @ @ @ @ @ @ @@@@@ @ / \ @@@@ @@@@ @ @@@@ @@@@ @ @@@@@ / \________________________________________/ ------------------------------ Subject: OKC Level Fest From: winman @ gnn.com (WINSTON WALKER) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:03:25 In regards to Mikes post of the new dates for the OKC Levelfest, I have done some more research at www.travelocity.com These fares are based on an approximate 9:00 am June 20 departure and a 12:00 pm departure on June 22. ALL FARES ARE ROUNDTRIP! Los Angeles, Ca - $241.82 Newark, NJ - $279.36 Seattle, Wa - $312.64 Boston, Ma - $451.18 Members from Boston might want to fly out of NY, to save almost $200. Winston p.s. All this talk of Victor Wooten had me thinking. I've seen him with Bela Fleck twice, most recently this year at the Stereophile audio show in NY. I also have 2 Bela CD's. Well, while Mr. Wooten is a great bassplayer, he never really impressed me with his playing. I must admit that I haven't had a chance to check out his solo work. Now, I've seen Jaco on a regular basis at the old "Lonestar Cafe", and was impressed with Pattitucci live, Victor just didn't strike a chord with me. Perhaps his playing within that ensemble is one of his great features. Just my thoughts on the matter, heck, 20 digest members can't be wrong! :-) winman @ gnn.com ------------------------------ Subject: tv shows / cd problem From: mm95 @ worldonline.nl (Mighty Maomoondog) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 17:04:34 GMT Hi! > French & Saunders Show featuring Mark King in sketch 1990 This reminds me of a show called 'Filthy, Rich and Catflap' with Rik Mayall, Adrian Edmundson (is that his name? He plays Vivian in The Young Ones) and Nigel Planer (Neil in The Young Ones). Anyway, in one show Midge Ure made a guest appearance. Does anybody remember this? >> By the way, don't you hate the way that Prince's Lovesexy album has no >> track indexing? If you want to hear one of the tracks in the middle, >> you have to fast forward through all of the music to get to it. Turns >> your CD back into a tape! > > Winston and I were talking about this just last night. We were commenting > that our proposed live Digest CD, if we made it like one continuous concert, > would have to avoid the unitrack problem that Lovesexy has. Yes, indeedee. That's really annoying. I have 'Live Baby Live' by INXS (the greates band name ever) and that has the same problem. By the way, I heard INXS'll be releasing a new album soon. Later ~ -- "if she's a liar, I'm her lover if she's a priestess, I'm her cover if she's a lady, I'm her man if she's a man, I'll do what I can!" (c) 1984 Alphaville _____________________ |The Mighty Maomoondog| | MM95 @ WorldOnline.NL | | **** | | ** | |_____________________| ------------------------------ Subject: What's That Bass ??/Sade From: Jason Bell <106417.737 @ compuserve.com> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:38:19 -0500 Takio, what a good question ! But I'm not fooled. > What kind of bass does Mark plays on "Sun goes down" and "Lessons in Love"? > It's not Alembic, is it another JD? I can't really tell! It looks a lot > like Alembic.......oh well.....somebody tell me.... > Well, I'm wainting on my bass to arrive at my door!!! It's a Pangborn Warlock, Mark King Model, circa 1984. Well spotted Zak, it ain't a Jaydee. The bass was made in London, England by Ashley Pangborn. Ashley made some flipping georgeous basses. I think the actual company went to Germany, then went down the pan. I very nearly got one instead a Jaydee. I'm on a Bass Collection now, I never did get that Jaydee. I'm still after a Pearl Pink one by the way. Takio, you've made my day, I never thought I'd get asked that question ! Elson: > PAUL DENMAN - You don't know his name, but his lines give Sade's sultry > tunes an added foundation of soul. So that's his name. I haven't listened to any Sade stuff in years, I'll have to check it all out again. Thanks. Thanks for all your private Emails, you've all made me fell very welcome. Thanks again. I'll try and answer any private Emails ASAP, but I do have a full time job, and a wedding to sort out. If i take a couple of days, I apologise in advance. Regards Jason. ------------------------------ Subject: Good Vibes, etc. From: WLonote @ aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:57:16 -0500 Just a few quick responses. Elson wrote: > JAMES JAMERSON - Personally my greatest bass influence. You can hear his > fingerwork on any tune from the Motown era from Smokey to the Jackson Five > to Marvin Gaye. I don't know how he does it, but my only guess is that he > tries to make his basslines sound like heartbeats. Well said! Nearly every other bassist that has received mention in the past couple of digests owes a tremendous debt to Jamerson. He's about as good a primary influence as you can have. Nigel wrote: > I think Level 42 are generally a very 'positive' group and find it > unlikely that they would go to the trouble of producing an album > inspired solely by their hatred of their label. Surely they are above > that, drawing on more creative and less negative vibes for their music? > I think that that this is part of their appeal (for me certainly), they > are not big on 'attitude' or profile. I think the positive vibe exuded by Level 42's music is what makes them my favorite band over several other worthy artists. They seem to follow in the ideological footsteps of Earth, Wind and Fire, another band I place head and shoulders above the bands from their time frame. Not to say that I don't enjoy some darker, brooding material (especially when I've been kicked to the curb by yet another of the fair sex :'-( ), but Level 42's optimism has always appealed to me on a deeper level. > Don't you need fingers 14 inches long to play a 6 string? Actually, I've got kind of small hands, but a really long tongue... (helps me on the bass licks, ouch!) ;-) Seriously, the trick lies in keeping your left wrist loose and floating it up and down as you reach for the lower strings. I used to lock my wrist when I first started on six-string, and ended up with tendonitis, so I acquired the floating wrist habit out of necessity. It's a good habit to develop, though; just ask any acoustic player. BTW, thanks for the award, Jase! I know that conversation has taken a decided tilt toward the low end for the past week or so. I sincerely hope that the non-bassists on the Digest aren't completely fed up with us! Turn it on whenever you can.... Wes Hodge ------------------------------ Subject: My first posting... From: reb46 @ ix.netcom.com (S. Reboulet) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:23:42 -0800 Out comes another lurker... I have a handful of things that I'd like to throw out here, so forgive me if I jump around a bit. I guess an intro should be first. I am a 25 yr old police officer from Boston. Unfortunately a few years ago I faound that playing in a band was not going to pay the bills, so I had to get a "Real" job. I have been playing bass for about 11 years. I, like many others here, got into Level 42 when I heard "Something About You" and it kinda snowballed from there. I have been on the digest for a couple months and now have a few issues to comment on. First, for all you Level42 completists, I have never heard mention about the track "At This Great Distance". It is on the Trace Elliot 15th anniversary CD "Also Available in Green." It is a collection of tracks by bassists who use Trace gear.(Tony Levin, Doug Wimbush, Nathan East, etc.) The Level track is odd to say the least but...The players are Mark, Mike, Gary, and Jakko. Some of the songs are a little "out there" but it is worth having. It's available from Audiophile Imports and I just saw an order form in this months Bass Player. Regarding the solution for dead strings...The #1 thing is to buy strings that have a decent life. (I prefer the Ernie Ball Extra Slinky) Instead of boiling the strings, I found that the best thing to do is put some isopropyl alcohol on a cloth and wipe down the strings. I use a facecloth and wrap it around each string, and wipe the legnth of it. It has worked VERY well for me and is simple to do between sets on a gig. About that sale at CD Europe. For those of you who were interested in the Level 42 discs and video's they had listed. If you buy two items, the price becomes 50% of what it was listed for. So, you ppl who need something, you can get it REAL cheap. Finally, one of my favorite topics. BASS PLAYERS! I have really enjoyed all the bass player discussion lately. Thanks guys! Rather than repeat the ones already mentioned, I'd just like to list my favorites that weren't mentioned. Actually these are my top 3 players, but MK is right up there. 1) Will Lee. He is my God. I have collected anything I can that he plays on, including 3 Sadowsky basses. For those who don't know him, he is one of the top s NYC session men and is also the Bassist on the Letterman show. This guy could play just whole notes and it would sound great! Also, I beleive this is where Jase got his line "All The Bass" right?? :) 2) Dave Larue. Bassist for the Dixie Dregs and Steve Morse band. Incredible sound and technically amazing. He is the only guy that could keep up with Steve Morse, hands down. He is a great funk player as well. Check out his "Hub City Kid" CD. Mind blowing. 3) Jason Scheff. Bassist for Chicago. (His dad, Jerry, was Elvis' bass player) Aside from being a great singer, this guy is a great player. I know Chicago is not know for their superb musicianship in their recent albums, but check out his playing. Especially the "Live at the Greek Theatre" Video. He also does some great playing on guitarist Chris Carmozzi's new disc. Oh yeah, one last thing. I got the new Remixes CD. Now I usually don't like remixes, but the "Children Say" remix is incredible. I never got into that song until I heard this mix with Mark using his thumb rather than fingers. It really makes all the difference in the tune! Okay, I guess thats all for now, thanks for listening. -Scott