From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest) Subject: Level42 Digest V96 #189 _ ____ _ ____ _ _ ___ // //__ // / //__ // /__// __// //__ //__ \\_/ //__ //__ // /__ D I G E S T Level42 Digest Volume 96 : Issue 189 367 subscribers Today's topics: Re: Elson and his congas/Me and my sequencing b>> Rob Kadel LAW, Q, Al & Phil Mikep3099 ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Elson and his congas/Me and my sequencing bug From: Rob Kadel Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 12:42:43 -0400 (EDT) > > CONGAS - I hate them in the live version; really buggers up a grooving > > piece of music IMHO. > You're not a musician, are you? Congas actually make a song groove MORE. (Do you > know > exactly what "groove" is?)Of course, L42 would have been even better with a live > > percussionist... > > Elson No, I wouldn't agree with that entirely, Elson; and I am a musician. Yes, there is room for congas on songs with grooves. Take for example, "Romance" on FN. Excellent groove on that track, and it's laiden with congas. But there are other tunes, like "The Bends" which have grooves and have no congas to make them groove MORE 'cos they don't need it. The band accomplished the same groovy task by having Phil play a syncopated snare beat whilst recording a track of possibly a cabasa or a shaker of some sort. On the other hand -- I wholeheartedly agree with you that a percussionist would've been nice when they played live. Myself, I just got tired of them sequencing so much stuff, e.g., the background percussion on "Children Say." Meanwhile, I got really REALLY tired of them sequencing so much of Mike's keyboard parts. I mean, I know Mike had a lot to do up there, but honestly, there had to be some better way to handle songs like "Lessons in Love" (on which he hardly played) and "Silence" (on which he didn't play at all). IMHO. -Rob ------------------------------ Subject: LAW, Q, Al & Phil From: Mikep3099 @ aol.com Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 05:43:44 -0400 Hi all, I've had a little more time the last couple of days to listen to Live at Wembley. I also recently recieved the promo sampler for the album. I just wanted to briefly make a few points. RE. the Q review: The LAW sampler CD is a 3 track disc in a card sleeve that has identical front artwork. This is the sort of pre release promo sent to radio and the PRESS! "So what" you say, well it seems to me that someone that has the actual review said that the only songs mentioned in it were SAY, Running In The Family & Lessons In Love. These are the 3 tracks on the sampler, the ONLY 3! If this is what the dipshit used for his review what was the point. He reviewed the sampler not the album. That is likely why he didn't mention the poor edits throughout the ALBUM. Listening to Gary play tubs on tunes that Phil originated makes it even more clear that Phil posseses what seems to be a real rarity in todays drum world, TRUE SOUL. Don't get me wrong, Gary seems to be a master technician but Phil has more FEEL than Gary ever though about having chops. Phil can stretch time to the point of nearly falling off the back of the beat but still be on and he can emote (sp) in ways that no other drummer I can think of can. He remains at the top of my list above Gary,Vinnie, Dave, Neil, Steve and all the rest. Again, Alan Murphy has more feel and can convey emotion more and better than just about anyone else these days and as well as most of the greats in the past. I make this statement without regard for instrument. Listen to the begining of his brief solo in It's Over on LAW. Miles Davis would have struggeled to say as much, make you feel as much, with so few notes. Listen to his work in Silence on the Take Care Of Yourself singles. MY God!!, what a loss!!!!! And to remain still so unappreciated and unknown. A true tragedy. Sorry to go on so long. All of the above is ,of course, just MHO. Take it for what is worth, very little probably. Please support the CD-R purchase project. It will make alot of dreams come true for many folks on the digest who have been missing out on these rarities for so long and give us all access to a more resiliant media for them other than vinyl. Please consider it. Take care, Mike