From: Level42-request @ worldmachine.com (Level42 Digest) Subject: Level42 Digest V95 #21 _ ____ _ ____ _ _ ___ // //__ // / //__ // /__// __// //__ //__ \\_/ //__ //__ // /__ D I G E S T Level42 Digest Volume 95 : Issue 21 200 subscribers Today's Topics: Bass Players Slow Jams There was a snake.......... Bass Playing Video questions #21 PP and MM L42 on "lite" rock in Seattle The Level 42 Digest Archive Server is "at your service" ------------------------------ Subject: Level42 Digest V95 #21 From: Elson Trinidad Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 10:26:20 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Bass Players > From: "Paul O'Dell" > > Are there any bass players on the mailing list? I'm curious to know > how many of us on the mailing list are actually bass players. Do any > of you bass players have tips on playing like Mark? Hi Paul. I'm a bass player. Actually, I'm really a keyboardist, but over the past few months I've been seriously taking up bass. I have a Musicman Stingray-5 played through a Hartke 3500 amp. Needless to say, I am preety advanced for someone who's been playing bass for only three months (though over the past several years I've been known to strap a 4- or 5-string around my neck during band rehearsal breaks or visits to music stores). Yes, Mark King is a major influence, though I'm more of a fingerstyle player than a slap player. I do slap a little, mainly octaves. But I *have* figured out Mark King's secret. Most slap players mute the strings with their left hand (on the frets). Mark mutes the strings with his wrist/lower arm - Notice his bass is positioned at a high level. Now all I need to do is to work at it! (Slapping is pretty tough on a 5-string). Also, having a lower action helps. You don't have to slap as hard to get the same results, and if you get good you can do it at a faster speed. I haven't checked out Mark King's action on his Alembic. It appears to be high, but that's probably attributed to the fact that he's a real intense player. (I, for instance, never needed black electrical tape on my thumb). I understand other players like Marcus Miller play with a relatively low action. Oh yeah - My other bass playing influences: James Jamerson (Motown session bassist extraordinaire), Bootsy Collins (in his James Brown days), Andrew Levy (Brand New Heavies), Jez Colin (The Solsonics), Stu Zender (Jamiroquai), Pino Palladino, Ron Isley (The Isley Bros.) Elson ------------------------------ Subject: Level42 Digest V95 #21 From: lolita @ interserv.com Date: Fri, 8 Sep 95 11:23:56 PDT Hey LevelHeads: I just want to add my $.02 to the discussion of Level 42 slowjams. My favorite of all time is Lying Still. That song is very funky and ethereal at the same time (check out the bassline during the chorus - sounds like a 70's funk band). My second favorite is Out of Sight, Out of Mind. As for It's Over, that is one of the most cold-blooded songs I've ever heard. Those of you who may not remember the lyrics, replay it sometime. Like Alex said, it'll make you even more depressed if you have just broken up with someone. Two Solitudes is another favorite (although it is more mid tempo than a quintessential slowjam). Oh, definitely Love Meeting Love - almost forgot. Later. Lolita ------------------------------ Subject: Level42 Digest V95 #21 From: LittleHalo @ aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:13:50 -0400 ...swimming out there! -- Mark King in New Orleans. This is my second request: Does anyone know where L42 were exactly when they were filming Fait Accompli/Heaven In My Hands video? My mom wants to know so she can pay homage on her tour through New Orleans. BTW, does anyone out there know who El Vez is? Also in response to Jon's comment on L42 ballads, I totally agree. Leaving Me Now, It's Over, Why Are You Leaving?, Hours By the Window + more are great. Every chord and lyric is heart wrenching and beautiful at the same time. "With a Little Love," Angel ------------------------------ Subject: Level42 Digest V95 #21 From: Rob Steen Date: Fri, 08 Sep 95 08:44:47 EDT Hi there, Dave, I found out the date of the first issue of Guitar magazine with bass tab, sorry I know I said it was in Guitarist but I made a mistake, the issue is September 1991, it has a picture of Mark on the cover holding that beautiful Alembic bass of his, there are another two issues with bass tab, I'm not sure if they are the next two or not. The interview is up on the Level 42 Home page. Paul, from what I can gather there are quite a few bass players on this mailing list, I've been playing for about six years, mostly as a hobbie, I've been in a few bands around Dublin. As for playing like Mark, I do love playing along with Level 42 but I've found that if I try doing that sort of stuff in a band they don't like it, the message from me is play what suits the song, enjoy yourself and try and do something that's you. Mark tends to overplay some stuff live and according to the man himself the reason why he never did a full official tutorial, book, video, whatever, is because he makes too many mistakes and he wouldn't want to pass that on. The one piece of great advice I've heard Mark give is tap your feet along with the rhythm to keep time, then you'll find yourself falling in with that. I hope I don't get thrown off the list for criticizing Mark's playing, but it's nothing he hasn't said himself. Just enjoy yourself and go for it. "...I've seen it both ways, the pleasure and the pain, life is for loving, living is a game..." All the best, Rob. ------------------------------ Subject: Level42 Digest V95 #21 From: "Julian Arnold" Date: 8 Sep 1995 15:37:19 -0700 Hello Guys 'n' Gals, Its the other Irishman here once again to chime in and get with the Level 42 Cognocenti. I'd like to answer Doug's question below.. > I have never had the honor of seeing Level 42 live. I was hoping though > if anyone out there knows how to get t-shirts, concert ptograms or any > other cool level 42 stuff. i am also looking for Mike Lindup's solo cd. > Any ideas .... thanks, Doug Erickson ..don't have a lead as far as the T shirts/programs go but call Audiophile Imports in Maryland at 410-628-7601, they'll have the re-released Changes album with an additional demo copy of Fallen angel and its also a cool looking limited edition picture CD.. too ask for either Mark or Mike. (not King or Lindup, these are the guys in Audiophile..!) Also Cliff Barua wrote.. >Can anyone recommend any good (I mean >decent sound) bootlegs from the '86-'87 tours. Preferably >the full concerts - with a lot of World Machine & Running In >The Family stuff, and a few earlier gems. Audiophile, as far as I know are not too big into videos and may not have anything pre-Guaranteed, they should have that though, call them at the above number. General Question: Has anyone seen any live footage of Weather Reports' 8:30 Concerts with Jaco doing the wild string thing ?? Thanks, Julian. ------------------------------ Subject: Level42 Digest V95 #21 From: Peter Hadley Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 19:11:00 -0400 (EDT) Upon going to see Jeff Beck in concert, I was pretty surprised to find Pino Palladino along on bass. His playing was very smooth, although sometimes drowned out by the amazing Terry Bozzio and his 45+ piece kit, and the fact that most of the tunes played were written without a bass player...anyway, the well-informed will know that Pino played on Lindup's album, and was also co-coverboy along with Mark in Bass Player (March '92). Speaking of that rag Bass Player, knowing there are alot of Marcus Miller fans here, there is a short interview in the newest issue (for some reason Mike Watt is on the cover). --jay ------------------------------ Subject: Level42 Digest V95 #21 From: Brent Kroon Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Fellow 'heads I recently heard Good man in a storm on a "lite" rock station here in Seattle. ("lite"- apparently one third less guitars than the regular station). It reminded me of how much I dig World Machine, so I've been playing it for the last couple days. I think I'll call up the station and find out how that song got in their rotation. It seems to me that it's one of the forgotten tracks from WM. It grooves, though. PS Any rumblings on new projects from Mark or Mike? Brent ------------------------------ Subject: Level42 Digest V95 #21 From: "Eric J. Hansen" Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 21:22:04 -0400 (EDT) Heya folkses... The list archive server is now at your disposal. 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